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re: No SEC team plays 10 or more P5 Opponents
Posted on 8/21/18 at 4:06 pm to AA7
Posted on 8/21/18 at 4:06 pm to AA7
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The SEC needs to start scheduling teams like Kansas, Illinois, Minnesota, Maryland, Syracuse, Oregon State, etc.
The problem is that a lot of their non-conference open dates are home games. 2 extra home games can be huge for revenue.
Could you see Alabama playing @ Kansas? So to convince Kansas to take a game, you've got to convince them to give up a home game and likely add a loss to their schedule.
Bama isn't giving up a home game to go play at Minnesota, even if that home game is Mercer. The money doesn't make sense
This post was edited on 8/21/18 at 4:09 pm
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Posted on 8/21/18 at 4:07 pm to Jebadeb
Playing 9 conference games would make this a non-issue
Posted on 8/21/18 at 4:09 pm to UAtide11
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Could you see Alabama playing @ Kansas?
I could see Auburn or Alabama going to Kansas in football as leverage to get Kansas to come play in basketball.
Posted on 8/21/18 at 4:12 pm to AA7
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I could see Auburn or Alabama going to Kansas in football as leverage to get Kansas to come play in basketball.
I would love it if they did. But Bama is going to sell 90k+ tickets to a Mercer football game and every hotel and restaurant will be booked for a weekend. If Kansas comes to Tuscaloosa, they could sell out 16k seat gym and maybe sell a little merchandise.
Posted on 8/21/18 at 4:14 pm to scrooster
I see 16 team conferences in the future.
Posted on 8/21/18 at 4:16 pm to AA7
Hince why we need to increase to 16 teams & pod scheduling to help clean up the imbalance.
Posted on 8/21/18 at 4:17 pm to Jebadeb
couldn't care less, and in fact is probably a smart move, although i dont think it's orchestrated as much as just a coincidental off year for some scheduling. georgia played 10 last year and will again next year, for instance. im sure other teams are in similar boats.
hopefully! that's the entire point of the season, no?
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But people will clearly view this as an easier route to the CFP.
hopefully! that's the entire point of the season, no?
Posted on 8/21/18 at 4:17 pm to AA7
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The SEC needs to start scheduling teams like Kansas, Illinois, Minnesota, Maryland, Syracuse, Oregon State, etc.
Many of these teams will want home/homes and aren't good enough opponents to warrant a 2/1 home/away setup. That's if they'd be willing to take the game anyways... Keep in mind a lot of these teams are just trying to get bowl eligible... Signing up to play Bama, Auburn or UGA as say Indiana is not a particularly attractive proposition. They've already got near guaranteed losses against tOSU, Michigan, Michigan State, and Penn State... there's not a lot of wiggle room in the schedule at that point to take on a big time opponent that is a 90% certain loss.
I also don't envision SEC ADs signing up to give up the revenue associated with a home game just to satisfy this unless it becomes a bigger deal.
Posted on 8/21/18 at 4:18 pm to Jebadeb
Yes but 2 SEC teams play 9 SEC games
Posted on 8/21/18 at 4:19 pm to UAtide11
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But Bama is going to sell 90k+ tickets to a Mercer football game and every hotel and restaurant will be booked for a weekend. If Kansas comes to Tuscaloosa, they could sell out 16k seat gym and maybe sell a little merchandise
Oh no doubt it's more profitable in the immediate, but if bama is serious about boosting the basketball program then having a team like Kansas, Duke, or UNC come play is a huge investment.
The most likely outcome is going to be moving to a 9 game SEC slate, which again sucks for teams like USCe who already play a set tough OOC team every year.
Posted on 8/21/18 at 4:22 pm to AA7
8 is enough
Posted on 8/21/18 at 4:25 pm to SAINTS0321
Play the mercers of the world ..season ticket holders sell give those tix to someone..especially little kids who don't know the difference between the 96 Gators and a 18 Mercer
This post was edited on 8/21/18 at 4:29 pm
Posted on 8/21/18 at 4:27 pm to rockchlkjayhku11
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hopefully! that's the entire point of the season, no?
Yes, it is the point of the season to make it to the playoffs, but the view that it is easier for SEC teams could negatively affect those teams. I disagree with that view though.
Posted on 8/21/18 at 4:29 pm to AA7
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which again sucks for teams like USCe who already play a set tough OOC team every year.
It will suck for all of us who have a P5 OOC annual opponent. Fortunately, for the foreseeable future, Ga Tech has decided to not take the sport terribly seriously, but no telling how long that stays the case. UF has FSU, Kentucky has Louisville. USCe certainly has the worst draw currently, but Florida has had a rough draw with FSU as well for quite a while (not to mention occasionally adding in Miami as well).
I wish we'd look at the Roommate Switch approach to 8 games before going straight to 9 (which it handles well also). Tackling division inequality is more important from a perception standpoint than OOC scheduling IMO, at least it is for us as UGA already has 9 P5 games always, 10 games often. Maybe not as much the case for teams with no permanent P5 OOC opponent.
Posted on 8/21/18 at 4:33 pm to fibonaccisquared
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Tackling division inequality is more important from a perception standpoint than OOC scheduling IMO
I agree it's an issue for UGA, but it's the most difficult thing to tackle. Considering how cyclical teams success is, you would be going out on a huge limb by making any big changes. UT and UF getting their crap together would do wonders for divisional equality.
Posted on 8/21/18 at 4:38 pm to scrooster
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Didn't Kentucky and Indiana used to play every year back in the day until we went to eight games?
We did for awhile.
I’m not a fan of a 9 game for obvious reasons. If we tried to drop Louisville off the schedule, the state would probably legislate it in. They threatened to do that before in basketball.
Posted on 8/21/18 at 4:41 pm to AA7
All this shite comes down to is greed and arrogance. Oh no, we're to good to play there, or, no, we don't want to play those guys. This shite is what destroys football. All because of money. Venues, concessions, merch, this isn't football and fans continue to make it crazier by buying into it. We're all guilty though.
Posted on 8/21/18 at 4:47 pm to Jebadeb
We played 10 last year. Will play 10 in the future as well.
ND next year. Got Oregon ready. UCLA and Texas in the future. Just not this year, but more often than not we do.
2013 Y
2014 Y
2015 N
2016 Y
2017 Y
2018 N
2019 Y
ND next year. Got Oregon ready. UCLA and Texas in the future. Just not this year, but more often than not we do.
2013 Y
2014 Y
2015 N
2016 Y
2017 Y
2018 N
2019 Y
Posted on 8/21/18 at 4:50 pm to jlovel7
That's great for you guys that have no power 5 non conference natural rival.
Then we'd have to play 11 if we wanted to do something like we're doing with ND. That's the rub.
Then we'd have to play 11 if we wanted to do something like we're doing with ND. That's the rub.
Posted on 8/21/18 at 4:53 pm to AA7
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UT and UF getting their crap together would do wonders for divisional equality.
Yeah... it's been a decade for UT at this point though, and realistically almost 2 since they consistently had their crap together. Pruitt at least is a really good talent evaluator, so they are going to get some steals in recruiting that will likely help to overhaul the roster. They've got an absolutely shite schedule in 2018 so 2019 will be the first chance I feel like they have to show progress.
UF would seem to be the more likely candidate to resurge, but I really think Mullen was a square peg/round hole hire. They have to figure out their QB of the future by no later than next year... I don't believe that they have it on the roster in 2018, and not sure who they are going to land in 2019 class to change that. Emory Jones just has a lot of developing to do and the guys on the roster are not going to get it done IMO. I certainly could be wrong, but if I'm not... how long of a leash does Mullen have in Gainesville? And what is "enough" success? If he loses to UGA 3-4 years in a row and also struggles against either FSU, LSU, or lord help him, USC (with Muschamp at the helm)... I dunno what the likelihood of him continuing there would be.
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