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NIL vs NFL
Posted on 1/20/24 at 8:03 am
Posted on 1/20/24 at 8:03 am
What if a bunch of NFL players all decided to join one NFL team for a cheap contract with huge NIL (Marketing) deals on the side. It would seem this would be an easy way around the salary cap. Why isn’t this a problem for the NFL and other pro leagues?
And I don’t think NIL is the problem by itself.. I think NIL with an open transfer policy is the problem.
So why isn’t NIL a problem in the pros?
And I don’t think NIL is the problem by itself.. I think NIL with an open transfer policy is the problem.
So why isn’t NIL a problem in the pros?
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Posted on 1/20/24 at 8:56 am to BigBro
Because in the NFL, you cant just pack up you shite and join another team every year. They have to sit 4 years and an expired contract.
Posted on 1/20/24 at 9:13 am to GatorOnAnIsland
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Because in the NFL, you cant just pack up you shite and join another team every year. They have to sit 4 years and an expired contract.
yes, but they can go wherever they want when they are free agents.. but if CFB goes the pro route (with contracts, etc) will we see players be allowed to play for 7-10 years or longer? At that point, the school portion will be somewhat irrelevant, and the NCAA won’t control it anymore.. I have mixed feelings on this..
Could we perhaps see two leagues?
College (for players in school)
Pro College (after you graduate)
There might be a market for this imo..
I would definitely watch Texas vs Oklahoma etc with players not yet good enough to go to the NFL, but past their “college” days..
The USFL or XFL should have tried something like this imo.. the brands and fan bases already exist.. this could be a great Spring Football League
Texas
Oklahoma
Alabama
Georgia
Florida
LSU
Tennessee
Notre Dame
USC
Ohio State
Michigan
Penn State
Oregon
Washington
I would definitely watch.
This post was edited on 1/20/24 at 9:14 am
Posted on 1/20/24 at 9:17 am to BigBro
What if NFL fans had to ‘chip in’ to pay 100% of the player salaries and there were 2 free agent periods every year for every player? Insane, right?
Posted on 1/20/24 at 9:20 am to BigBro
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What if a bunch of NFL players all decided to join one NFL team for a cheap contract with huge NIL
1) Rookie contracts lock stars down 4-5 years.
2) Unlike NBA, very tight window to make $ in late 20’s
3) Smaller roster size
4) Injuries
5) Trades if a GM senses a guy’s leaving.
6) Dudes have families & are actual professionals.
This post was edited on 1/20/24 at 9:23 am
Posted on 1/20/24 at 9:22 am to Gman84
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What if NFL fans had to ‘chip in’ to pay 100% of the player salaries and there were 2 free agent periods every year for every player? Insane, right?
Yes, the system is broken as it is.. I just don’t know the solution to fix it.
It was perfect.. and we all screwed it up. I still love it, but it just isn’t the same..
Posted on 1/20/24 at 9:26 am to BevoBucks
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1) Rookie contracts lock stars down 4-5 years. 2) Unlike NBA, very tight window to make $ in late 20’s 3) Smaller roster size 4) Injuries 5) Trades if a GM senses a guy’s leaving. 6) Dudes have families & are actual professionals.
Think of it this way..
Big Bro is a big free agent QB this year. Why can’t the Texans offer to pay me $5 million per year and have Exxon pay me $50 million per year in NIL/Marketing if I sign with Houston?
Posted on 1/20/24 at 9:33 am to BigBro
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Big Bro is a big free agent QB this year. Why can’t the Texans offer to pay me $5 million per year and have Exxon pay me $50 million per year in NIL/Marketing if I sign with Houston?
Because big-time QB’s aren’t regional stars like they are in college. Mahomes is going to get paid premium salary and premium marketing. He doesn’t have to choose. Josh Allen is in a small market team, but he gets marketing deals with international brands.
Several teams have tried to assemble a group of veterans who took less pay to win it all. Rams were most recent to succeed. But, as they demonstrated, it’s likely only a one or two year window.
This post was edited on 1/20/24 at 9:35 am
Posted on 1/20/24 at 9:37 am to BevoBucks
fair points.. I’m just trying to figure out what can be done to fix the problems.. I guess contracts and a players union is going to be the only way.. 
Posted on 1/20/24 at 9:45 am to BigBro
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I guess contracts and a players union is going to be the only way.
Afraid it is. But NFLPA gets approximately 50% of revenue. Can’t imagine the SECPA is going to agree to much less of a school’s football revenue (given they can currently renegotiate their deals every year). Throw in Title IX requirements, & not sure how many athletic programs survive.
Posted on 1/20/24 at 9:57 am to BigBro
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fair points.. I’m just trying to figure out what can be done to fix the problems.. I guess contracts and a players union is going to be the only way..
Limit to one entry into the portal unless you have graduated. Any additional entry and you have to sit out a year, and lose that year of eligibility
Posted on 1/20/24 at 10:00 am to BigBro
NIL already exist in the pros. Do you not think mid level players are getting paid to show up at local places to sign autographs take pics etc. the difference is, players are paid what their worth is based on their popularity with the fanbase.
Posted on 1/20/24 at 10:00 am to BigBro
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I’m just trying to figure out what can be done to fix the problems.. I guess contracts and a players union is going to be the only way
You can’t “fix” them because anything done to limit it has or will be shot down in the courts. The NCAA tried to make it where you had to sit out a year if you transferred multiple times, and the courts shot that down.
The only “fix” will be when universities get fed up with the whole thing and you start seeing football and basketball abandoned. Then if another sport gets just as bad, drop that too. Soon the only sports will be equestrian and water polo.
Posted on 1/20/24 at 10:08 am to MAROON
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Limit to one entry into the portal unless you have graduated. Any additional entry and you have to sit out a year, and lose that year of eligibility
The courts are responsible for free agency
Posted on 1/20/24 at 11:26 am to skrayper
That court ruling was a temporary restraining order - NCAA needs to get busy and adjudicate it. Those rules don’t limit NIL. The person can still sign NIL. They just can’t play for a year.
This post was edited on 1/20/24 at 11:29 am
Posted on 1/20/24 at 11:37 am to BigBro
Because, with NIL and the portal college football (all college sports, actually) are working within a system where only one party is bound by any sort of contractual obligations. The school still operates under collegiate scholarship guidelines that bind them to certain standards to any given player.
The NFL doesn't have that. It has an actual traditional contractual agreement that makes fricking sense. College sports? Nah......none of this makes sense.
The NFL doesn't have that. It has an actual traditional contractual agreement that makes fricking sense. College sports? Nah......none of this makes sense.
Posted on 1/20/24 at 11:54 am to BigBro
It's not.
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