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NIL & Recruiting - Rank SEC schools
Posted on 11/11/21 at 9:03 am
Posted on 11/11/21 at 9:03 am
I don’t see many conversations on the NIL rules for paying student athletes and what advantages that will start bringing for Recruiting at the “Richer” schools/boosters in the conference.
Take programs like A&M and LSU. A&M has oil money coming out of their ears and are way overpaying a coach who has no significant finishes in the CFP era. On the other hand LSU doesn’t seem to have enough money backing to fire their coach mid season and their school is operating at losses.
In this scenario which school has the better competitive advantage to offer their recruits larger NIL deals? I think Aggie.
What’s the hierarchy of the SEC schools in their booster fiscal capacities. Alabama>Georgia>A&M>Florida ?
Take programs like A&M and LSU. A&M has oil money coming out of their ears and are way overpaying a coach who has no significant finishes in the CFP era. On the other hand LSU doesn’t seem to have enough money backing to fire their coach mid season and their school is operating at losses.
In this scenario which school has the better competitive advantage to offer their recruits larger NIL deals? I think Aggie.
What’s the hierarchy of the SEC schools in their booster fiscal capacities. Alabama>Georgia>A&M>Florida ?
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Posted on 11/11/21 at 9:05 am to JeBron Lames
Who is this Florida you speak of?
Posted on 11/11/21 at 9:07 am to JeBron Lames
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On the other hand LSU doesn’t seem to have enough money backing to fire their coach mid season
I mean, they just did.
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their school is operating at losses.
The school's financial standing has very little to do with the athletics department...
Posted on 11/11/21 at 9:08 am to SidewalkTiger
Most schools will likely keep their NIL deals under wraps and use it in recruiting
Posted on 11/11/21 at 9:09 am to JeBron Lames
If the Waltons were the older generation you'd have to bump Arkansas way up there. But the newer generation is happy plowing big money into urban development in Arkansas, Texas, and Missouri. Which isn't a bad thing, trust me.
Posted on 11/11/21 at 9:13 am to nicholastiger
In the matter of LSU courting Jimbo for next HC. Do you think schools will use NIL capabilities as competitive edges in bringing in new coaches?
From the way Aggie blows money, I don’t see many outspending their boosters. Which school will be easier for a Coach to recruit at with NIL?
From the way Aggie blows money, I don’t see many outspending their boosters. Which school will be easier for a Coach to recruit at with NIL?
Posted on 11/11/21 at 9:15 am to JeBron Lames
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In this scenario which school has the better competitive advantage to offer their recruits larger NIL deals?
The school's financial standing doesn't have anything to do with NIL deals.
Posted on 11/11/21 at 9:16 am to JeBron Lames
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What’s the hierarchy of the SEC schools in their booster fiscal capacities. Tennessee>Alabama>Georgia>A&M>Florida ?
We have 5 billionaire boosters. We win.
We'll have Charlie Ergen signing every single one of them to Dish contracts.
Min Kao will have them all touting Garmin products.
Jimmy Haslam will be handing out lots of Pilot gas cards.
Posted on 11/11/21 at 9:24 am to JeBron Lames
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On the other hand LSU doesn’t seem to have enough money backing to fire their coach mid season and their school is operating at losses.
There is nothing correct about this assertion. O is fired and stands to receive nearly a full buyout.
The danger of putting in an interim coach is that he may do well and become a fan favorite for the job, making the broader hiring process more difficult.
Based on last Saturday, his players still play hard for him and a man that truly loves his school gets to ride out the season having a lot of fun.
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which school has the better competitive advantage to offer their recruits larger NIL deals?
Not how this works either. Schools are not paying NIL sponsorships. And, virtually every school has access to significantly wealthy alumni and corporations to entice NIL money for its players. LsU football is a major brand, and that is what matters most for sponsors.
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What’s the hierarchy of the SEC schools in their booster fiscal capacities. Alabama>Georgia>A&M>Florida ?
That is a pretty easy Google search that incorporates foundation monies into total athletic dept revenue for reporting institutions
This post was edited on 11/11/21 at 9:25 am
Posted on 11/11/21 at 9:25 am to JeBron Lames
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On the other hand LSU doesn’t seem to have enough money backing to fire their coach mid season
Posted on 11/11/21 at 9:30 am to JeBron Lames
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A&M has oil money coming out of their ears and are way overpaying a coach who has no significant finishes in the CFP era.
Jimbo finished #4 literally last year.
Posted on 11/11/21 at 9:30 am to JeBron Lames
NIL will be better for schools that have lots of local small businesses. Ark has Walmart, Tyson, JB Hunt but they aren't going to do some national campaign with our athletes. People outside of the state aren't going to know who they are unless they are in Heisman contention. ESPN's darling players are the only ones who can get the national deals so it's not really about "schools that have money". Oregon will benefit most cause Phil Knight won't GAF and will pay all the recruits.
This post was edited on 11/11/21 at 9:32 am
Posted on 11/11/21 at 9:31 am to JeBron Lames
Actually in terms of pure financial resources, A&M has more than Bama or UGA. That said it really doesn't matter when you reach the point where you can have anything you want and the Admin is willing to spend whatever it takes and all 3 are there.
UF could be there if they chose to. They have massive resources as well and have some advantages no one else does. The problem for them is the desire to do it.
LSU and Auburn have the commitment but in the end they have limits on their resources but they are willing to spend beyond their means to win.
Tennessee is a weird one. If they ever got their crap together they could be right in the mix but they have a couple decades of bad decisions they are still trying to make up for.
In terms of the NIL deals themselves it's still too early to tell. For instance A&M has a ton of money but not necessarily with big brands like Phil Knight and Nike with Oregon. For A&M I would imagine it is more giving guys $10,000 to sign a football or show up at a company lunch, most companies in the O&G industry are B to B focused and don't have big marketing campaigns though they have a LOT of money.
In the end it's going to settle out though as the big teams find ways to match each other on NIL deals and recruits go back to the things they made decisions on before, only now they get nicer cars.
UF could be there if they chose to. They have massive resources as well and have some advantages no one else does. The problem for them is the desire to do it.
LSU and Auburn have the commitment but in the end they have limits on their resources but they are willing to spend beyond their means to win.
Tennessee is a weird one. If they ever got their crap together they could be right in the mix but they have a couple decades of bad decisions they are still trying to make up for.
In terms of the NIL deals themselves it's still too early to tell. For instance A&M has a ton of money but not necessarily with big brands like Phil Knight and Nike with Oregon. For A&M I would imagine it is more giving guys $10,000 to sign a football or show up at a company lunch, most companies in the O&G industry are B to B focused and don't have big marketing campaigns though they have a LOT of money.
In the end it's going to settle out though as the big teams find ways to match each other on NIL deals and recruits go back to the things they made decisions on before, only now they get nicer cars.
Posted on 11/11/21 at 9:34 am to Hugh McElroy
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Jimbo finished #4 literally last year.
Posted on 11/11/21 at 9:38 am to Hugh McElroy
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Jimbo finished #4 literally last year.
That sounds a lot like a great moral victory. Oh wait, wrong thread.
Posted on 11/11/21 at 9:43 am to aggressor
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LSU and Auburn have the commitment but in the end they have limits on their resources but they are willing to spend beyond their means to win.
What are you talking about? AU is second in the SEC in revenue generating CFB programs, only behind UGA. Some of you are really dumb.
Posted on 11/11/21 at 10:30 am to Arksulli
You dont think the older Walton's would throw money at Mizzou too considering Sam is a mizzou alum?
And one of the Kroenke kids just signed to mizzou womens basketball so expect some Walton and Kroenke money to end up at mizzou.
And one of the Kroenke kids just signed to mizzou womens basketball so expect some Walton and Kroenke money to end up at mizzou.
This post was edited on 11/11/21 at 10:38 am
Posted on 11/11/21 at 10:31 am to aggressor
As far as the NIL stuff coming into play I think UF may not have as many football do what it takes boosters as it used to have. We have a ton of really rich alumni but many of them aren't huge football fans like they used to be. I think Bama and LSU and them may have more willing to throw big money at the very top recruits.
This post was edited on 11/11/21 at 10:34 am
Posted on 11/11/21 at 10:42 am to JeBron Lames
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On the other hand LSU doesn’t seem to have enough money backing to fire their coach mid season
So they fire their coach with a massive buyout and they don't appear to have the money to do it? Wat?
Regardless, NIL deals have nothing to do with the school's financial resources. The school isn't signing kids to NIL deals. shite, Stingley signed NIL deals with Canes, Walk-Ons, a Ford dealership, and United Airlines. We even have a baseball commit with and other baseball players with NIL deals.
For sports like football and basketball, NIL deals could come from anywhere in the country regardless of where the kid is playing.
This post was edited on 11/11/21 at 10:46 am
Posted on 11/11/21 at 10:44 am to AUCE05
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What are you talking about? AU is second in the SEC in revenue generating CFB programs, only behind UGA
No they aren't.
Not in terms of CFB revenue or overall revenue.
Are you talking profit?
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