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NIL and Opt Outs

Posted on 12/8/23 at 9:24 am
Posted by NaturalStateReb
Arkansas
Member since Jun 2012
1443 posts
Posted on 12/8/23 at 9:24 am
With so many players opting out of bowl games, I'm surprised more NIL deals don't require players to play in postseason games. Seems like a no-brainer to me, and I'm not sure why someone hasn't started putting this in deals yet.
Posted by sorantable
Member since Dec 2008
48734 posts
Posted on 12/8/23 at 9:26 am to
You seem to believe schools have a modicum of leverage, when in reality they do not.
Posted by BamaScoop
Panama City Beach, Florida
Member since May 2007
53826 posts
Posted on 12/8/23 at 9:27 am to
With a year or two players will have agents and they will renegotiate every year. This will cost a lot of kids an opportunity for an education because if they don’t produce they will lose their scholarship!
Posted by paperwasp
11x HRV tRant Poster of the Week
Member since Sep 2014
23095 posts
Posted on 12/8/23 at 9:28 am to
I honestly can't recall the details, but haven't we discussed the legality of a "performance" clause as it relates to NIL?

Seems logical for a third-party advertiser to request, but I think someone pointed out that there was a contractual/legal issue with it.

Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
American dissident
Member since Nov 2013
35906 posts
Posted on 12/8/23 at 9:34 am to
The game is being intentionally destroyed

NIL

Spearing has been replaced with "targeting" and "launching" so that the TV money gods can control the outcome of games.

Ask a 21-year-old if they've ever even heard of spearing. They usually haven't.

Helmet to helmet literally happens every play of every game, but it's only called when the money gods want to control a game.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86463 posts
Posted on 12/8/23 at 9:38 am to
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Opt Outs


quitting. It's called quitting.
Posted by Hback
Member since Aug 2017
9207 posts
Posted on 12/8/23 at 9:41 am to
quote:

Marvin Harrison Jr. and TreVeyon Henderson have allegedly been offered NIL deals that rival first-round draft pick money to keep them at Ohio State for the 2024 season, per sources. It’s unclear if either will accept the deals.

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Posted by Tantal
Member since Sep 2012
13943 posts
Posted on 12/8/23 at 9:59 am to
quote:

You seem to believe schools have a modicum of leverage, when in reality they do not.


No, but the businesses and collectives writing the checks do. OK, 20 year old WR, you want to be semi-pro and sign a contract that allows you to make money? Well, sometimes those contracts have stipulations.
Posted by sorantable
Member since Dec 2008
48734 posts
Posted on 12/8/23 at 10:05 am to
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No, but the businesses and collectives writing the checks do. OK, 20 year old WR, you want to be semi-pro and sign a contract that allows you to make money? Well, sometimes those contracts have stipulations.

No leverage whatsoever. These players can play wherever they want to, and don’t have to play this kind of hardball to get a bag.
Posted by Tantal
Member since Sep 2012
13943 posts
Posted on 12/8/23 at 10:16 am to
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These players can play wherever they want to, and don’t have to play this kind of hardball to get a bag.


If NFL teams can build clauses into a contract, so can the businesses and collectives that are paying these kids.
Posted by SCwTiger
armpit of 'merica
Member since Aug 2014
5857 posts
Posted on 12/8/23 at 10:17 am to
quote:

sometimes those contracts have stipulations.

As they should.
Posted by p_charpie
downdahbaya
Member since May 2017
210 posts
Posted on 12/8/23 at 10:19 am to
The problem is these kids have no loyalty to any one program - someone else will offer them the same contract w no stipulations because of the varied state of programs around the country and those programs' objectives and they will take it. They don't care where the school is, esp as the SEC has lost some of its luster in recent years. They only care about their draft stock. Penix and Nix writing themselves into the first round in non-SEC confs sort of compounds this perspective. Just my two cents
Posted by ColoradoAg
Colorado
Member since Sep 2011
21912 posts
Posted on 12/8/23 at 10:31 am to
Anias Smith is the definition of what CFB should be. Kid had season-ending surgery but is helping coach at the Bowl game. Our WR's might actually have some decent coaching for the first time in two years!
Posted by MetryMauler
Member since Sep 2016
7132 posts
Posted on 12/8/23 at 10:33 am to
Didn’t know Smith got injured again. He’s a real talent who has had some terrible luck. Seems like a class act.
Posted by ColoradoAg
Colorado
Member since Sep 2011
21912 posts
Posted on 12/8/23 at 10:46 am to
He's declaring for the NFL draft. I hope he catches on with an NFL team - I'm rooting for his success.
Posted by BevoBucks
H-town
Member since Dec 2022
3949 posts
Posted on 12/8/23 at 11:02 am to
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NIL deals don't require players


18-19 year olds & their agents run this sport.
Posted by BevoBucks
H-town
Member since Dec 2022
3949 posts
Posted on 12/8/23 at 11:09 am to
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No leverage whatsoever.


Nothing demonstrates that more than the number of starting qb’s on winning teams jumping ship to a conference rival for a few more bucks.
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
American dissident
Member since Nov 2013
35906 posts
Posted on 12/8/23 at 11:16 am to


Posted by jamespatterson
Member since Aug 2023
2049 posts
Posted on 12/8/23 at 11:18 am to
It’s a free country. It’s about time players run the show.
Posted by PJinAtl
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2007
12747 posts
Posted on 12/8/23 at 11:27 am to
Recruiting pitch to a top flight player.

X State University - You'll have a chance to compete for a starting job the minute you step on campus. Our NIL collective will give you $750,000 but the stipulation to that is you have to play in all games, including the bowl game, if you aren't injured. Otherwise they will only pay you $692,500.

University of X - You'll have a chance to compete for a starting job the minute you step on campus. Our NIL collective will give you $750,000, even if you decide to sit out a bowl game.

Which offer do you think the kid takes? Which offer would you take?
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