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re: Nick Saban: It 'doesn't seem quite right' that he can't communicate with team

Posted on 10/16/20 at 11:02 am to
Posted by r2d2
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Posted on 10/16/20 at 11:02 am to
I agree 100%.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 10/16/20 at 11:02 am to
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By about the beginning of May, I was almost ready to shoot a pregnant woman every time I heard that phrase in the grocery store.
It was always horseshite

"We are all in this together"

Really? The person drawing a full paycheck "working" from home is in it with the person who lost their business because the govt forced them to close?
Posted by Funky Tide 8
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Posted on 10/16/20 at 11:04 am to
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I agree with Nick these rules are ridiculous

But he had no problem telling others to "do their part. follow the guidelines" over and over again no matter how much those guidelines cost some people in their actual lives

Now that the guidelines cause him a minor inconvenience, he doesnt think its right

What a hypocritical typical self absorbed a-hole

"We are all in this together", until we are not


you're reaching pretty hard right here dude.

This is more of a situation where people who were working in offices easily transitioned to working from home and communicate with their co-workers/clients because that makes perfect sense. Saban should be able to "work remotely" because it makes fricking sense, and it is stupid to prohibit someone him from doing so in these extenuating circumstances.
This post was edited on 10/16/20 at 11:05 am
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 10/16/20 at 11:04 am to
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Really? The person drawing a full paycheck "working" from home is in it with the person who lost their business because the govt forced them to close?

Yeah, far too many people underestimate how many jobs are impossible to do and how many businesses are impossible to run remotely.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 10/16/20 at 11:06 am to
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you're reaching pretty hard right here dude.
Im not reaching at all. He downright told people to follow the rules and guidelines

He never gave a shite how draconian some of those are and how much it harms people

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because it makes fricking sense
now he gives a flying frick about the guidelines "making fricking sense"?
This post was edited on 10/16/20 at 11:08 am
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 10/16/20 at 11:06 am to
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draconian


Posted by weadjust
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Posted on 10/16/20 at 11:07 am to
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Posted by Funky Tide 8
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Posted on 10/16/20 at 11:08 am to
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Im not reaching at all. He downright told people to follow the rules and guidelines



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He never gave a shite how draconian some of those are and how much it harms people





And you know this how? How is him asking people to follow guidlines so that things could get back to normal equated to "not giving a shite about people losing their jobs?" Saban doesn't make rules, and set measures when it comes to public health, and government, what the frick is he supposed to do about it?
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 10/16/20 at 11:08 am to
It's so dumb that there isn't some sort of health clause to the rule to begin with much less this season. He should definitely be allowed to communicate with the coaches during the game.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95120 posts
Posted on 10/16/20 at 11:09 am to
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And you know this how? How is him asking people to follow guidlines so that things could get back to normal equated to "not giving a shite about people losing their jobs?" Saban doesn't make rules, and set measures when it comes to public health, and government, what the frick is he supposed to do about it?


Im am just telling Saban what he told me:

"Follow the guidelines"
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64606 posts
Posted on 10/16/20 at 11:10 am to
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Saban should be able to "work remotely" because it makes fricking sense, and is stupid to prohibit someone him from doing so in these extenuating circumstances.


There's nothing preventing him from working from home and conducting practices, making calls, talking to people over the phone, etc. during the week. The problem lies where he cannot communicate with his team and coaches, from home, during the game. That rule exists so people aren't having off-site coaches with more technology than is permitted in the press box communicate with the on-site coaches during the game. Per NCAA rules, teams are only afforded the same video capabilities as is available at the stadium. If you have a coach watching the game on CBS or wherever, being able to hear injury reports from the other team, interviews with the other coaching staffs, being able to see more angles on plays than the available film to the coaches in the press box, then that creates an unfair advantage. Not to mention, it opens up a slippery slope where teams could conceivably be calling non-staff members for advice during the game.
Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
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Posted on 10/16/20 at 11:12 am to
He's always complaining about a rule
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 10/16/20 at 11:12 am to
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If you have a coach watching the game on CBS or wherever, being able to hear injury reports from the other team, interviews with the other coaching staffs

Yeah that's a really good point.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 10/16/20 at 11:12 am to
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Not to mention, it opens up a slippery slope where teams could conceivably be calling non-staff members for advice during the game.


While true, this is a unique situation and he should be given a waiver.

But it’s Bama so not going to cry about it
Posted by Funky Tide 8
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Posted on 10/16/20 at 11:13 am to
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There's nothing preventing him from working from home and conducting practices, making calls, talking to people over the phone, etc. during the week. The problem lies where he cannot communicate with his team and coaches, from home, during the game. That rule exists so people aren't having off-site coaches with more technology than is permitted in the press box communicate with the on-site coaches during the game. Per NCAA rules, teams are only afforded the same video capabilities as is available at the stadium. If you have a coach watching the game on CBS or wherever, being able to hear injury reports from the other team, interviews with the other coaching staffs, being able to see more angles on plays than the available film to the coaches in the press box, then that creates an unfair advantage. Not to mention, it opens up a slippery slope where teams could conceivably be calling non-staff members for advice during the game.


I fully understand what the rule is, and why the rule is in place, but those rules could easily be set aside due to extenuating circumstances, and altered to where a head coach can do still coach, and there not be any nefarious, illegal activity taking place while doing so.
This post was edited on 10/16/20 at 11:14 am
Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
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Posted on 10/16/20 at 11:13 am to
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64606 posts
Posted on 10/16/20 at 11:13 am to
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Saban doesn't make rules, and set measures when it comes to public health, and government, what the frick is he supposed to do about it?

Right. But he has begged people to follow the rules until those same rules have affected his ability to do his job the way he wants. Now he has a difference of opinion because he now realizes that maybe they're a little too extreme.

Personally, I'd have no issue if a coach got sick that they were able to somehow isolate that coach in the box during a game. However, I think the problem may lie being able to apply that equally around the country. I'm sure a place like Alabama with dozens of boxes could make arrangements for Saban to be isolated. But could you do that at a smaller school that don't have the capacity to do that?
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 10/16/20 at 11:14 am to
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Right. But he has begged people to follow the rules until those same rules have affected his ability to do his job the way he wants. Now he has a difference of opinion because he now realizes that maybe they're a little too extreme.

"Rules for thee but not for me"
Posted by Funky Tide 8
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Posted on 10/16/20 at 11:16 am to
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Right. But he has begged people to follow the rules until those same rules have affected his ability to do his job the way he wants. Now he has a difference of opinion because he now realizes that maybe they're a little too extreme


I might be confused here...does the afformentioned rule have anything to do with covid? Are the rules that Saban said to follow public health, covid-related measures set in place by government? How are these two things even comparable?
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64606 posts
Posted on 10/16/20 at 11:17 am to
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but those rules could easily be set aside due to extenuating circumstances, and altered to where a head coach can do still coach, and there not be any nefarious, illegal activity taking place while doing so.


I mean if we could trust people not to take advantage of something like that, then sure. I just don't think there would be a lot of trust, especially with how easy it is to manipulate technology. Unless they somehow had an official from the NCAA personally monitoring these people and setting up a remote site, I just don't see how this would work and have people trust that things are on the straight and narrow.

At the end of the day, we're all dealing with some unavoidable and unfortunate consequences trying to get through a season in unprecedented circumstances. Nothing is going to be perfect. We have contact tracing rules where people who aren't even sick having to sit out games. I think that's a lot more inherently unfair than someone who is actually sick being forced to stay away until they're no longer sick.
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