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re: NFL Scout: Joe Burrow is the only consensus "franchise" QB in the 2020 draft
Posted on 1/28/20 at 5:20 pm to Rabern57
Posted on 1/28/20 at 5:20 pm to Rabern57
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Who the frick else could they have played?
Someone impressive. Those defenses played a bunch of bad offenses (which make their stats better).
Then by this logic the Texas defense must have been pretty good after playing good offenses. Surely playing the likes of LSU, Oklahoma, Oklahoma St just skewed their stats and that Texas defense is good, right?
Posted on 1/28/20 at 5:22 pm to TigerLunatik
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Then by this logic the Texas defense must have been pretty good after playing good offenses. Surely playing the likes of LSU, Oklahoma, Oklahoma St just skewed their stats and that Texas defense is good, right?
Rabern talks out of both sides of his mouth 100% of the time
Posted on 1/28/20 at 5:22 pm to lsufball19
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these two things aren't mutually exclusive. You can run RPOs without having linemen downfield. RPO offenses have been around a long, long time.
I suppose you could call other plays "RPO", but what makes the RPO so successful in college is having the lineman downfield.
Not sure if you've ever played football, but when you play defense you read the offensive lineman for pass/run. If they push up off the line, it's a run. If they raise up and fall back, it's a pass.
The RPO confuses and causes problems with the defense because they always push off the line. So the defense is reading run, then suddenly it's a pass. And then on runs you can't even read those anymore because they might pass the ball, so if the linebacker runs up to stop the run, the QB might still pass the ball.
It's damn near impossible for the defensive players to choose correctly because the QB has the option to make them wrong.
It's the main reason why you see Tua, Burrow and others suddenly having huge completition %'s and why offenses have gotten so potent in college recently. Oklahoma, LSU and Alabama have had "record breaking" offenses over the past few years.
LSU fans should be happy overall, it also means they should have a good offense next year without Burrow. Because the system works. That's why Alabama started running it and why you can expect to see it more and more.
Before LSU installed that type of offense, Burrow was not looking very good.
This post was edited on 1/28/20 at 5:24 pm
Posted on 1/28/20 at 5:25 pm to SidewalkTiger
quote:He's also on a good team. Burrow won't be.
Is this why Tom Brady was drafted in the sixth round?
Posted on 1/28/20 at 5:28 pm to Rabern57
We had a shitty OL in 2018, I think LA Tech sacked burrow 5 times. Still beat Auburn tho.
Posted on 1/28/20 at 5:29 pm to 3down10
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3down10
you realize most of the NFL uses RPOs now right? You also realize that offenses have been setting records in the NFL too right? So explain to me again why Tua, Burrow, et al are going to struggle because than ran RPOs in college? It's a bad take, just walk away.
This post was edited on 1/28/20 at 5:31 pm
Posted on 1/28/20 at 5:31 pm to WilliamTaylor21
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I haven’t gamed much over the last few months. SEC, playoff, wedding, holidays, Citrus Bowl watch party, natty, honeymoon - I’m a wildly busy man.
Are you writing your own vows? If so will there be bold, italics and underlining?
Posted on 1/28/20 at 5:37 pm to lsufball19
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so were a long list of QBs that ended up being franchise QBs
If you label every high pick a franchise QB then you are bound to be correct some of time. There are WAY more misses.
Posted on 1/28/20 at 5:40 pm to WilliamTaylor21
You might be a bit annoying. A bit overzealous and somewhat of a discount LSUFreek, but I’ll always have a special place in my heart for you
Posted on 1/28/20 at 5:42 pm to 3down10
All of this is currently done in the NFL.
Doug Pederson has been running it with Wentz since he got into the league.
Watch this Sunday’s Super Bowl with Andy Reid
Doug Pederson has been running it with Wentz since he got into the league.
Watch this Sunday’s Super Bowl with Andy Reid
Posted on 1/28/20 at 5:45 pm to lsufball19
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What’s your point?
I think Burrow will be solid but not a franchise QB.
The Bengals have a horrible offensive line and lack skill position players except for RB.
He will struggle but overall will be an Andy Dalton or Derek Carr type of player.
Posted on 1/28/20 at 5:49 pm to lsufball19
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you realize most of the NFL uses RPOs now right? You also realize that offenses have been setting records in the NFL too right? So explain to me again why Tua, Burrow, et al are going to struggle because than ran RPOs in college? It's a bad take, just walk away.
No, they really don't. They have a form of RPO, most of which revolves around pulling guards and such while the other lineman do pass blocking(usually on the back side of the potential run). If you pull a guard, then they don't go downfield for awhile and the play can develop.
If they go more than 1 yard downfield and the ball is thrown, it's a penalty. In college they can go 3 yards before it's a penalty and it allows many more plays to develop in that time. You might have time to get a really really fast slant off, but otherwise you'll see most of their movement east/west rather than north/south like you see in college.
This post was edited on 1/28/20 at 5:50 pm
Posted on 1/28/20 at 5:49 pm to Ronaldo Burgundiaz
Stafford, Cam, and Luck all worked out
Smith never lived up to the draft pick but was a solid QB in his own right
Smith never lived up to the draft pick but was a solid QB in his own right
This post was edited on 1/28/20 at 5:51 pm
Posted on 1/28/20 at 5:51 pm to 3down10
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No, they really don't.
Posted on 1/28/20 at 5:51 pm to GatorsGators
I'll say this...
Considering LSU's previous #1 QB draft picks, I'd wait to see what he does before declaring him greatest QB to ever strap on pads.
Considering LSU's previous #1 QB draft picks, I'd wait to see what he does before declaring him greatest QB to ever strap on pads.
Posted on 1/28/20 at 5:51 pm to The_Ultimate_Warrior
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All of this is currently done in the NFL.
Doug Pederson has been running it with Wentz since he got into the league.
Watch this Sunday’s Super Bowl with Andy Reid
Exactly. The idea that the RPO is somehow illegal in the NFL is ridiculous.
Posted on 1/28/20 at 5:52 pm to WilliamTaylor21
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Posted on 1/28/20 at 5:53 pm to skrayper
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Considering LSU's previous #1 QB draft picks, I'd wait to see what he does before declaring him greatest QB to ever strap on pads.
This definitely makes sense and what Jamarcus Russell did over a decade ago certainly has bearing on what Burrow will do in the future. Brilliant.
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