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re: Next Year with Playoff system SEC could send 2 or 3 teams with title hopes

Posted on 12/9/13 at 7:41 am to
Posted by swarly
Member since Dec 2013
80 posts
Posted on 12/9/13 at 7:41 am to
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It would steal some thunder from the directional school bowls, but how many people actually watch them?
I watch them. I enjoy them. I do not remember them. But it is a great excuse to drink
Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
19782 posts
Posted on 12/9/13 at 7:47 am to
I don't think the committee will allow 2 SEC teams in the playoff no matter what.

Too much money to spread around, and they've already said that conference championships and head-to-head will be heavily considered.

But then again, I've heard many media members say it would be a travesty to leave out Alabama this year if there was a playoff. I agree.

But that begs the following question - "If Bama should get into the playoff despite not winning their division and despite losing to Auburn, why not three or even four SEC teams?"

If the playoff is meant to include the four best teams, then there should be no limit by conference. But that's not what the playoff is for. It's to include the four teams from around the country that would make for an exciting tournament.
This post was edited on 12/9/13 at 7:48 am
Posted by firebird fez
Member since Dec 2013
21 posts
Posted on 12/9/13 at 8:03 am to
Agreed.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
TeamBunt General Manager
Member since Apr 2013
62514 posts
Posted on 12/9/13 at 8:07 am to
Having a conference championship game will become a liability unless they explicitly state you must be a conference champ to get in. They need to do away with conference championship games and go all the way to a ten game conference schedule.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Member since Jun 2004
88622 posts
Posted on 12/9/13 at 8:09 am to
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I don't think the committee will allow 2 SEC teams in the playoff no matter what


Why? There'd be 2 this year, and definitely 2 in 2011.

There's no way in hell 3 of the 4 teams will be from the same conference, but 2 is certainly possible.
Posted by Buckeye06
Member since Dec 2007
24145 posts
Posted on 12/9/13 at 8:13 am to
I think you can have 2, but never 3. For example, in 2011 Bama and LSU would have been in.

I think in years where conference champs have 2 losses you will see multiple teams from conferences getting in. Why wouldn't you send a 1 loss team from a major conference in over a 2-3 loss Pac 12/B1G champ or whatever the case may be. There also may be years the SEC could get left out, if the conference champ has 2 losses (doesn't happen often of course)
Posted by Scoreboard
Madison, AL
Member since Apr 2012
2011 posts
Posted on 12/9/13 at 8:20 am to
3 will never happen and 2 will be rare. If they kept the BCS, yes, the computers make it a more objective system. But with the totally subjective Dirty 13, they will be concerned with parity and spreading the wealth and all kinds of subjective BS like that. My sample playoff this year as chosen by the Dirty 13. Michigan State at Florida State, Stanford at Auburn.
Posted by AUBorn
Itumpka Youtumpka Wetumpka, AL
Member since Aug 2013
933 posts
Posted on 12/9/13 at 8:23 am to
What if Mizzou had beaten SC in OT and then lost a closer game to AU? Us SEC homers would want 3 SEC in, but there is no way the committee would take 3. Could the committee even pick 2? The entitled Bammers and the eye test people want Bama, but is it fair to take 2nd place West over 1st place undefeated (before SEC Championship) East? I think the committee will be stuck with the default position of conference champions. The runners up had their chance and lost. Only way two SEC get in is if they are both undefeated going into Atlanta or the rest of the big conferences end up with two losses.
Posted by vl100butch
Ridgeland, MS
Member since Sep 2005
35901 posts
Posted on 12/9/13 at 8:28 am to
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my problem is that it would destroy traditional bowl games



if it were set up right, you could incorporate the traditional bowls...something like what's happening now...
Posted by LSU316
Rice and Easy Baby!!!
Member since Nov 2007
29872 posts
Posted on 12/9/13 at 8:31 am to
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If the playoffs happened this year, 2 SEC teams would have made it.


I think you are making a lot of wrong assumptions about the comittee. A) I think you are assuming they will take the top 4/best teams. B) I think you assume they aren't putting a lot of emphasis on the conference championship games.

If the playoffs were this year I would not be shocked to see the committee put FSU, Auburn, MSU, and Stanford in there.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 12/9/13 at 8:35 am to
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I would much rather have this happen then a team in Alabama's position this year being passed over by teams that won their crappy conferences.

If I hear 1 more time how MSU or Baylor are more deserving because they won their conferences……


Shocking post is shocking

"We didn't handle our business, but we should still get a shot always"

Do you gumps ever get tired of spewing this shite every year?
Posted by Bubbles Up
Member since Jul 2011
2910 posts
Posted on 12/9/13 at 10:32 am to
This year there is no way they could leave out Alabama. If you seed them according to final BCS standings:

Sugar: Auburn/Alabama
Rose: Michigan State/Florida State

Winners play at Jerry World
Posted by LSU316
Rice and Easy Baby!!!
Member since Nov 2007
29872 posts
Posted on 12/9/13 at 10:55 am to
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If you seed them according to final BCS standings


I don't think you understand how the committee is going to work.
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
36664 posts
Posted on 12/9/13 at 11:10 am to
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you folks thinking the SEC is just gonna be hogging all the bids are in for a rude awakening
Posted by bamafan1001
Member since Jun 2011
15783 posts
Posted on 12/9/13 at 11:14 am to
The traditional bowls are already destroyed. They have 0 meaning in terms of the NC. They used to back before the BCS.

At this point, lets just go to 8 team playoff
Posted by dante
Kingwood, TX
Member since Mar 2006
10669 posts
Posted on 12/9/13 at 11:17 am to
If they play-off started this year, the 4 teams would be FSU, Auburn, Michigan State and Baylor.
Posted by Scoreboard
Madison, AL
Member since Apr 2012
2011 posts
Posted on 12/9/13 at 11:23 am to
This year there is no way they could leave out Alabama. If you seed them according to final BCS standings

As of right now, the BCS is dead. There won't be any computers, there won't be any BCS rankings. It's all on the Dirty 13 - Condoleeza Rice, Archie Manning, and 11 other people - and who they subjectively choose to be the Final 4. Assuming they started this year, could the Dirty 13 leave out Alabama? You're damn right they could.

Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
47404 posts
Posted on 12/9/13 at 11:26 am to
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If I hear 1 more time how MSU or Baylor are more deserving because they won their conferences……


How can you call yourself the best team in cfb when you aren't the best team in your conference?

ETA: who has bama beaten that makes them more deserving than Baylor or mich st. Both those teams have better wins than bama.
This post was edited on 12/9/13 at 11:30 am
Posted by 3rddownonthe8
Atlanta, GA
Member since Aug 2011
5287 posts
Posted on 12/9/13 at 11:34 am to
Everyone assumes there is going to be a ranking from the commitee 1-4. They have never said that. Their job is to form 2 semi final games and 4 other primier games. They are going to take into consideration bowl alignments , head to head , conf champs , and the rankings in the polls. But it foes not mean 1 play 4 and 2 plays 3 .

Scenario ....
Coaches poll.
1- FSU
2- BAMA
3- Oregon
4- OSU

They could easily set it up

BAMA- FSU. in Sugar
O-OSU in Rose

This makes the bowls happy and makes it for better travel.

The committee is not a ranking system it's a game maker .
Posted by dante
Kingwood, TX
Member since Mar 2006
10669 posts
Posted on 12/9/13 at 11:34 am to
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If you seed them according to final BCS standings
BCS will not be used to determine the play-off participants. Otherwise they would not need a committee to pick the teams.
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