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re: New ESPN investigative report on the murder of Jamea Harris/Brandon Miller situation.

Posted on 3/9/23 at 11:33 am to
Posted by Glorious
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Posted on 3/9/23 at 11:33 am to
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He also lied to police when he said Miles just showed up to his apartment shot


I can't believe that this didn't work
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
69050 posts
Posted on 3/9/23 at 11:34 am to
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He pulled the weapon first and then he pulls behind Brandon Miller and blocks him in then he shoots through Brandon’s car.

I didn't see anything about him pulling the gun first except for Davis' attorney making that claim. Miles may have a bit of a defense, but the report shows Davis getting a gun out of Miller's car, walking up to the boyfriend's car with his hood up, pulling it down right before reaching the driver's side door and immediately opening fire. You can't walk up to someone's car door with a pistol, open fire, and then have a great claim for self-defense and/or allege the driver was the primary aggressor.
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Davis may have been a hothead but he was provoked to do use Miles’ weapon.

Where do you see in that article he was provoked? I don't see anything in the article that even says Miles/Davis knew the boyfriend had a gun, just that Miles' mother said he owned a gun because he had a gun pulled on him when he was younger and that the boyfriend told Davis to "move along" and "Brother, why don't you be good."

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At 1:43 a.m., Miller's car pulled up behind Bradley's car, and Miles stepped out of Bradley's car.

Harris' Jeep made a left on Grace Street, away from the fight among the women in the alley and street. The Jeep turned around, lights still off, and pulled up behind Miller's car.

Miles then walked back to Miller's car and opened the right-side passenger door -- with Davis on the left -- and rummaged through clothes. According to court testimony, Davis and Miles had an exchange in which one told the other, "The heat is in the hat," and then, "Is there one in the head," meaning, was it loaded?


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At 1:43 a.m., Miller's car pulled up behind Bradley's car, and Miles stepped out of Bradley's car.

Harris' Jeep made a left on Grace Street, away from the fight among the women in the alley and street. The Jeep turned around, lights still off, and pulled up behind Miller's car.

Miles then walked back to Miller's car and opened the right-side passenger door -- with Davis on the left -- and rummaged through clothes. According to court testimony, Davis and Miles had an exchange in which one told the other, "The heat is in the hat," and then, "Is there one in the head," meaning, was it loaded?

Tuscaloosa police investigator Branden Culpepper testified at the Feb. 21 hearing that Davis fired first into the Jeep and that Cedric Johnson returned fire once Davis started shooting into the Jeep.

Video reviewed by ESPN appears to show Davis falling backward before two shots are fired from the Jeep. According to court testimony, Davis was shot in the shoulder.

At the first sound of shots, Bradley's car sped off.

"[I] see everyone scattering," a person at the scene said, who spoke to ESPN on the condition of anonymity. "And just kind of ran back across the street."

Video shows Davis running across Grace Street and into the alley behind the Houndstooth, firing his gun into the black Jeep. Bullets also hit the windshield of Miller's car, where there was an unnamed passenger. A photo shows bullet holes in the windshield of Miller's car -- one on the bottom of the driver's side and one in the middle of the passenger side.

As Davis ran, both Johnson and Miller drove away. It's unclear where Miller went. Johnson made a left on University Boulevard and stopped at the Walk of Champions in front of Bryant-Denny Stadium, where they encountered police. Harris was dead in the front passenger seat of her Jeep.


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At 1:45 a.m., Davis walked back onto Grace Street and to the driver's side of the black Jeep, which was still sitting behind Miller's car with the lights off. Almost immediately after Davis approached the driver's side of the car, the first shot was fired.


Davis IMO has a very weak hail mary affirmative defense of self defense. Miles may be able to reduce his charges and plead ignorance, but him giving Davis his gun, knowing a shooting happened immediately thereafter, having his girlfriend drive him away seeing his friend was shot, and then lying to police saying he has no idea how his friend was shot is going to make his defense pretty damn hard to sell to a jury. Maybe he works out a deal with the state but, at minimum, he's an accessory after the fact.
This post was edited on 3/9/23 at 2:16 pm
Posted by jsmoove
Member since Oct 2010
13210 posts
Posted on 3/9/23 at 11:39 am to
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So Miller did not drive Miles back to his apartment, which is something many had asked about.


Not many people believed that, and it's not even relevant. What is relevant is Miller saw the text.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
69050 posts
Posted on 3/9/23 at 11:40 am to
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The hacks at AL.com could have investigated like this but instead just chose to throw Miller under the bus for clicks. Typical


At the time the initial article came out, no they couldn't have. ESPN had to file an FOIA to get the videos, interview business owners in the area, and have the preliminary hearing occur before being able to write this article. Most of that information hasn't been available until the past week. The AL.com article, when it was published, only had the initial police reports to go off of. And then they had the prelim hearing transcript which didn't cover everything. The FOIA requests is what ESPN has recently obtained that has shed the most light on the situation. Those take time. No one could have possibly had those right after the incident happened.

I'd also point out that ESPN has far more resources and man power than AL.com does.
This post was edited on 3/9/23 at 11:42 am
Posted by cajunbama
Metairie
Member since Jan 2007
33080 posts
Posted on 3/9/23 at 11:43 am to
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I'm not disagreeing just saying it's odd behavior but people do odd things all the time.



It’s not surprising you would find this odd. You said it was normal that a college football player would secretly record sex with an unknowing female and then show it to friends.
Posted by Glorious
Mobile
Member since Aug 2014
25596 posts
Posted on 3/9/23 at 11:43 am to
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Not many people believed that, and it's not even relevant. What is relevant is Miller saw the text.


Yea what’s unclear is how Miller knew exactly where to go. Maybe it was disclosed before or after the gun text. We weren’t given any indication either way

I’ve said all along that I think he did see the text prior to the shooting because his attorneys would have stated otherwise if it were true. But that could have been right when it was sent or as he pulled up or anywhere in between
This post was edited on 3/9/23 at 11:46 am
Posted by cajunbama
Metairie
Member since Jan 2007
33080 posts
Posted on 3/9/23 at 11:45 am to
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Miller and Miles didn't seem to be close friends.



You literally could not know if this were true or not.
Posted by cajunbama
Metairie
Member since Jan 2007
33080 posts
Posted on 3/9/23 at 11:48 am to
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It appears to me that Miles and Miller did the exact same thing



And to think you lied about being an attorney with your original now permabanned account MetryMauler.
Posted by Evolved Simian
Bushwood Country Club
Member since Sep 2010
22973 posts
Posted on 3/9/23 at 11:50 am to
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I lived in those apartments on the left in that picture of Grace st. Horrible apartments in a prime location




One of my kids lived across Grace from your building for a year. Complete shithole, but he loved being right on the strip.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
61687 posts
Posted on 3/9/23 at 11:53 am to
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You literally could not know if this were true or not.


No doubt. Reading is key.

I didn't say they weren't close friends.

I said they didn't seem to be close friends.

Try to keep up, if you can.
Posted by TheTideMustRoll
Birmingham, AL
Member since Dec 2009
9639 posts
Posted on 3/9/23 at 11:55 am to
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I didn't see anything about him pulling the gun first except for Davis' attorney making that claim.


Then you missed it. At the end of the initial altercation something was handed from the back seat of Harris' Jeep to Bradley in the front. Bradley told police it was food. Miles told police he saw a gun. Miles could be lying, but if you assume he is telling the truth, it makes the claim that he got his gun to give Davis to use in self-defense a lot more believable. Of course, they should have just got out of there at that point, but they didn't.

Now the fact that they all chose to lie about what happened afterwards is pretty damning, for sure. Could it be they were just scared? Sure, but it's a bad look, nonetheless.
Posted by cajunbama
Metairie
Member since Jan 2007
33080 posts
Posted on 3/9/23 at 11:57 am to
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Both Miles and Miller played a part in providing a gun to Davis. What exactly did Miles do different than Miller?



Get a load of this geezer


This geezer is so mad that his lies about Maluka Neigbor got exposed he’s lashing out in this thread
Posted by bamameister
Right here, right now
Member since May 2016
16593 posts
Posted on 3/9/23 at 12:02 pm to
I can see the boyfriend coming up on charges before the dust settles on this one. And rightly so.
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54697 posts
Posted on 3/9/23 at 12:04 pm to
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At the end of the initial altercation something was handed from the back seat of Harris' Jeep to Bradley in the front. Bradley told police it was food.
You got almost everything wrong here.
Posted by Mulkey Man
Member since Apr 2021
19403 posts
Posted on 3/9/23 at 12:08 pm to
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Get a load of this geezer This geezer is so mad that his lies about Maluka Neigbor got exposed he’s lashing out in this thread


Do you have to prove yourself to be a moronic jerk in every thread on the board?
Posted by cajunbama
Metairie
Member since Jan 2007
33080 posts
Posted on 3/9/23 at 12:20 pm to
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I said they didn't seem to be close friends.






Yes, huge difference there.

Now I understand. You don’t have a fricking clue but that doesn’t stop you from offering up your uninformed opinion (minus a couple of tweets and tabloid type stories) as if you have insight

Posted by cajunbama
Metairie
Member since Jan 2007
33080 posts
Posted on 3/9/23 at 12:23 pm to
Sure, sure.

All your posts in this thread have been sincere.
Posted by cmayes56
Alabama
Member since Oct 2015
2953 posts
Posted on 3/9/23 at 12:33 pm to
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You've literally said he didn't do anything criminal.


Actually the DA in Tuscaloosa said he didn’t do anything criminal
Posted by hogcard1964
Alabama
Member since Jan 2017
14190 posts
Posted on 3/9/23 at 12:36 pm to
None of this matters.

He's gotten away with it.

It's over.
Posted by cmayes56
Alabama
Member since Oct 2015
2953 posts
Posted on 3/9/23 at 12:39 pm to
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Yea what’s unclear is how Miller knew exactly where to go


He dropped them off at the bar.. that’s why he knew where to go
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