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re: NCAA Rules Committee Proposes to Eliminate HUNH

Posted on 2/13/14 at 8:51 am to
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33953 posts
Posted on 2/13/14 at 8:51 am to
Saban's punk arse is behind this. And Bama fans want to call him the best ever.

Didn't hear Bear Bryant whining about anything.
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
26858 posts
Posted on 2/13/14 at 8:54 am to
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The rule takes away the one aspect that allows teams without a lot talent to compete with teams that have a talent advantage.

I don't necessarily agree with the rule change, but this right here indicates that the current situation isn't exactly fair. There shouldn't be any aspect of the rules themselves that bridge a talent gap.
Posted by bona fide
Burma
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Posted on 2/13/14 at 8:55 am to
Posted by blzr
Saratoga
Member since Mar 2011
30744 posts
Posted on 2/13/14 at 8:57 am to
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he game of football is meant to be physical. It wasn't meant to be basketball on grass. If you like basketball on grass, watch the Canadian Football League. I think basketball type scores are shameful. The SECCG was a disgrace to our conference that used to pride itself in defense.


must have sucked for you when you realized gus' o is more physical than sabans d
Posted by polydorr
Member since Nov 2013
1385 posts
Posted on 2/13/14 at 8:58 am to
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Exactly. Which is why I don't understand the bitching by your fellow fans.


You don't understand the bitching at being blatantly targeted by coaches with powerful connections who can't seem to beat us?

Even if it won't affect much of what we do it's still something our coaches will have to have at the back of their minds constantly. It still affects the gameplan.

And all because the NCAA rules committee doesn't have the gonads to support what is a legitimate strategy.

If this is passed, Saban and Bielema are going to look like petulant babies to most of the country. I hope every 'delay of game' penalty causes enough booing to register an earthquake.
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
War Damn Eagle Dad!
Member since Oct 2010
108381 posts
Posted on 2/13/14 at 8:58 am to
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The game of football is meant to be physical.


Yet this rule is being discussed because the hurry up is to physically demanding on players playing defense. So the Hurry up is doing exactly what you say football is meant to be.
Posted by BuccWildBammer
AL
Member since Nov 2011
23340 posts
Posted on 2/13/14 at 9:02 am to
A last second FG return for a TD proves AU's O was so much more physical
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30940 posts
Posted on 2/13/14 at 9:06 am to
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The scholarship rule change has nothing to do with how the game is played. I would say that most recent rule changes recently (mostly ones to "protect" players) have only hurt the game. College football's popularity is at an all time high now. Why try to fix something that isn't broken? I'd say Bama has done pretty well with the rules we have now.
I certainly agree with your last sentence, but the rest is simply your opinion.
While the scholarship rule doesn't directly affect play, rest assure that it has significant secondary affects (substitution patterns, individual speciality designations, etc.). Finally, while I'm not a proponent of "coddling" players, I can certainly understand implimenting rules that attempt to decrease serious injury, both immediate and long-term. If I had a kid playing the game, I'd sure want him taken care of...wouldn't you?
Posted by polydorr
Member since Nov 2013
1385 posts
Posted on 2/13/14 at 9:08 am to
Where is the tangible proof that the hurry up causes more injuries?

I'll wait.
Posted by LSU1NSEC
Member since Sep 2007
17243 posts
Posted on 2/13/14 at 9:10 am to
HUNH is a gimmick.


" The HUNH was fun while it lasted. As much as you enjoyed whatever advantage it gave you, if you’re honest you have to admit the problems it created for the game of football, not just your opponent.

There’s a reason tear away jerseys were done away with; it was eventually seen as an unfair competitive advantage. But why? Shouldn’t the defense be able to adapt? Not when it is seen as a gimmick. Rules are almost never introduced to benefit defenses, so when one comes along you know it’s a big deal.

Beyond player safety, which I don’t believe is even 75% of this issue, officiating crews are not consistent with one another in college football with how they manage games with HUNH teams. The argument has been made here that they don’t allow the ball to be snapped until the officials are set. That’s bogus. On a ten play drive there are so many presnap looks that are missed, where rules governing formations, alignment, etc. are missed. Again, it’s here that the majority of offensive penalties are committed, towards the beginning of the play. The offense acts, the defense reacts. And towards the middle or end, the defense commits whatever penalties they will commit. It’s always been that way, but if we’re brothers, the HUNH allows me to slap you in the face before mom and dad walk in the room, only to see your slap back. It’s a gimmick.

Tell me, is it fair for your wife to cheat on you as long as she does it quickly? The rules are there for a reason…and the speed of the game doesn’t make them okay to be broken. "


CFB Fan comment from article on HUNH.

Posted by au4you
Alabama
Member since Dec 2010
3091 posts
Posted on 2/13/14 at 9:11 am to
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If I had a kid playing the game, I'd sure want him taken care of...wouldn't you?


Of course. But there is nothing out there that shows HUNH causes any more injuries then a slower pace offense. It is kind of pathetic that the proponents have to hide behind this premise to push their own agenda.
Posted by chattabama
12essee
Member since Jun 2012
19315 posts
Posted on 2/13/14 at 9:13 am to
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You don't understand the bitching at being blatantly targeted by coaches with powerful connections who can't seem to beat us?


One game where Bama left 19 points on the field is "can't seem to beat us"? Please. We held your offense to less yards than Florida State did. Only difference is their offense stopped herp derping in the second half, and they had a reliable kicker. Let's stop playing the victim. Just admit that Gus's offense wouldn't work if both the offense and defense were given a level playing field.
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
26858 posts
Posted on 2/13/14 at 9:16 am to
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Beyond player safety, which I don’t believe is even 75% of this issue, officiating crews are not consistent with one another in college football with how they manage games with HUNH teams. The argument has been made here that they don’t allow the ball to be snapped until the officials are set. That’s bogus. On a ten play drive there are so many presnap looks that are missed, where rules governing formations, alignment, etc. are missed. Again, it’s here that the majority of offensive penalties are committed, towards the beginning of the play. The offense acts, the defense reacts. And towards the middle or end, the defense commits whatever penalties they will commit. It’s always been that way, but if we’re brothers, the HUNH allows me to slap you in the face before mom and dad walk in the room, only to see your slap back.

This is a legitimate point. My problem is not the pace of the HUNH, but rather the officials' handling of the HUNH. It's downright pathetic sometimes.
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30940 posts
Posted on 2/13/14 at 9:16 am to
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Where is the tangible proof that the hurry up causes more injuries? I'll wait.
First, I didn't say that it did....that is what the next committee that is given the suggestion will determine. Lastly, I was responding to the statment that past rules have hurt the game....again an opinion.
Posted by Tiger Live2
Westwego, LA
Member since Mar 2012
9882 posts
Posted on 2/13/14 at 9:17 am to
I'm not a fan of the HUNH, but I hope they don't change the rules to take it away. It's fun watching watching a game between a 2011 LSU type team, and a 2011 Oregon type team.
Posted by StopRobot
Mobile, AL
Member since May 2013
15729 posts
Posted on 2/13/14 at 9:19 am to
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Saban's punk arse is behind this. And Bama fans want to call him the best ever.


Troy Calhoun at Air Force is the one who proposed this
Posted by polydorr
Member since Nov 2013
1385 posts
Posted on 2/13/14 at 9:19 am to
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a level playing field.


This is your problem, you think it's not a level playing field when all the HU does is make the defense play harder. Boohoo. And please Auburn left plenty of points on the field for that game too, please stop trying to pull that card

Fortunately most of the country sees this proposed change for the BS crybaby nonsense that it is and the uproar will be magnificent if this passes.

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Just admit that Gus's offense wouldn't work


LOL. Your best inside linebacker in a decade was completely stymied by our offense and it certainly wasn't because the ball was snapped quickly. It'll be fun to watch Gus win even with the rule cards stacked against us.
This post was edited on 2/13/14 at 9:24 am
Posted by TTsTowel
RIP Bow9den/Coastie
Member since Feb 2010
92718 posts
Posted on 2/13/14 at 9:20 am to
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The game of football is meant to be physical
Wait, Auburn isn't physical?

Instead of complaining about how hard it is to stop an offense like Gus Malzahn's, go devise a gameplan to do so.

It's the offenses job to score as many points as possible, it's the defenses job to try to prevent that.
Posted by au4you
Alabama
Member since Dec 2010
3091 posts
Posted on 2/13/14 at 9:26 am to
The team that has possession of the ball is suppose to be advantaged.

It's the defense's responsibility to regain possession and the advantage.

The offense and defense aren't suppose to have equal advantages.

























ya know, football.
Posted by blzr
Saratoga
Member since Mar 2011
30744 posts
Posted on 2/13/14 at 9:26 am to
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A last second FG return for a TD proves AU's O was so much more physical


Watching the game did
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