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re: NCAA legal battle continues, could open door for college athletes to form unions
Posted on 5/21/23 at 6:14 pm to meansonny
Posted on 5/21/23 at 6:14 pm to meansonny
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Once the universities start seeing profits
Most universities do not see profits. The UGA athletic association pays about $5+M per year to the university. I'd guess that less than 10 universities in the country do something like that.
I meant more to the extent once a football program/athletics start operating in the red.
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Posted on 5/21/23 at 6:31 pm to paperwasp
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Yep. Fiscally impossible to support, and that doesn't even consider the cost of employee benefits for thousands of athletes.
What these players probably don't realize it that it will also open the door for them getting fired after a few poor performances on the field (or in practice).
Yeah, this is going to be horrible for the vast majority of college athletes, but they'll still find a way to blame someone else.
Posted on 5/21/23 at 6:35 pm to TideWarrior
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An employer can put whatever they want in a contract.
Lol
You've never met HR
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Not sure what part you fail to understand there.
Have you seen the employment laws?
They aren't difficult to understand.
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Someone wants to teach but does not have PhD completed and a condition of employment requires that they complete it within a certain time frame or will not have their contract renewed.
And if they complete it in half of the time, the university cannot force them to continue the education despite having met the requirement.
Think, man. These are simple questions and simple answers.
Posted on 5/21/23 at 6:51 pm to meansonny
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You've never met HR
Show me where I am wrong since you seem to know so much.
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Have you seen the employment laws?
They aren't difficult to understand.
Please provide a link.
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And if they complete it in half of the time, the university cannot force them to continue the education despite having met the requirement.
Not sure what you are trying to say. The only requirement is to complete the PhD by a specific time frame. As long as it is completed no issue and no reason to continue.
This post was edited on 5/21/23 at 6:54 pm
Posted on 5/21/23 at 6:58 pm to paperwasp
Why those 3? Why not all athletes? The argument most of the 3 they chose are black and can form a union to do what? Collective bargain? That would end college athletics and the nfl, nba and wnba would have to figure out what to do with all the athletes. Plus it would end the same black athletes from having the opportunity to get degrees.
Posted on 5/21/23 at 7:10 pm to TideWarrior
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Not sure what you are trying to say.
An employer cannot force me to be a permanent student.
It is the same statement I made that was responded to.
If the requirement is to get a degree, I can get the degree and no longer can be required to be a student.
If the requirement is to get a PHD, once I get the PHD I can no longer be forced to be a student.
CE/PE is not the same as being a student at a university. You know that.
Posted on 5/21/23 at 7:46 pm to meansonny
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f the requirement is to get a PHD, once I get the PHD I can no longer be forced to be a student.
Never said they could continue to force you to stay a student. I said an employer can require it as a condition for employment to complete said education to retain employment. Big difference.
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If the requirement is to get a degree, I can get the degree and no longer can be required to be a student.
Never said that was not the case. Currently to be a so called student athlete one must attend classes and stay qualified. No requirement to complete a degree for any NCAA athlete.
Posted on 5/21/23 at 8:14 pm to TideWarrior
You replied to my specific comment about being forced to be a student.
You even quoted it for your debate.
Employees cannot be forced to be student athletes.
Also, courts would not hold up a contention to take classes unrelated to the employee tasks.
The point of all of this is that student athletes will not be employees.
You even quoted it for your debate.
Employees cannot be forced to be student athletes.
Also, courts would not hold up a contention to take classes unrelated to the employee tasks.
The point of all of this is that student athletes will not be employees.
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