re: NCAA IS re-opening LSU's Kristian Fulton 2-year ban case

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What kind of incentive does that give players NOT to cheat.

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the one year suspension

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No it wouldn't because if they tamper with the test it is because they know they won't pass it and they would get the 1 year suspension anyway.

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You think this will actually dissuade people from trying to tamper with a test?

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You guys are arguing that the NCAA has ruined his college career....so yes. I think it will disuade some of them You don't? You think they will tamper with the tests knowing if they get caught it could finish them?

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he NFL, where players have a much bigger incentive to try to tamper with a test, only gives out a 6 game suspension for the same conduct. Just food for thought.

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If he were playing in the NFL he would be set, then, wouldn't he? but he is playing in the NCAA. Seems he should play by the NCAA rules.

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No it wouldn't because if they tamper with the test it is because they know they won't pass it and they would get the 1 year suspension anyway.

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They definitely dont know if they definitely wont pass or not, especially as people who havent had to do this before. Again, look at Fulton's case, he passed. The deterrent is in place with a 1 year ban either way, the test is monitored. The same message gets across for a 1 year ban which is already very harsh.

I'm certainly sure Fulton feels dumb for tampering with a test he ended up passing anyways.

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He passed because they didnt test for the drug he used

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Welcome to several pages ago, the test was for performance enhancing drugs, he wasn't taking any performance enhancing drugs

I guess the lessons learned are..

*Don't do drugs... yes weed is illegal.
*Don't tamper with your puss sample.
*If you have to do something stupid... just have possession of a stolen firearm, be intoxicated and have drugs in the vehicle.

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Nobody "took care of this" because his 1yr wasn't a suspension. They talked about that 1yr suspension and all it turned out to be was that he was redshirted by OU. That is not a suspension.

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A player in the NCAA can turn pro when his frshman class is in college for 3 years. Mixon only played at Oklahoma for two years, so it was not a redshirt year...or I guess you can call it a redshirt year if you want to. The LSU player can go pro, too if he wants to.

You are stretching everything out of proportion. Mixon went to court, and Oklahoma suspended him for a year.

Google the Kolton Houston deal at UGA. Good luck to the kid, ridiculous rulings are the NCAA norm...

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and if it were a UGA player you would say the rule in unfair....

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Nope. We would say he's a fricking idiot for breaking a clearly defined rule that every single NCAA athlete knows about. Doesn't matter what school he attends.

Also, he would have been kicked out of school by Richt and would be at Auburn by now.

I just don't get how anyone can question the penalty. It's pretty cut and dried. If you mess up and are in danger of failing a test, don't cheat. That only makes it worse. It's also a pretty good rule to live by in life in general

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I just don't get how anyone can question the penalty.

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Because it's fricking dumb, that's why. This isn't hard to follow here. To have literally half your career taken away by that is pretty ridiculous.

Again though, all this is pretty irrelevant, the case here is there is new evidence and the NCAA is taking a look at that, that's what can get the case overturned.

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Because it's fricking dumb, that's why. This isn't hard to follow here. To have literally half your career taken away by that is pretty ridiculous. 

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You have literally zero critical thinking skills. I should have said "I just don't get how anyone with a brain can question the penalty."

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Nope. We would say he's a fricking idiot for breaking a clearly defined rule that every single NCAA athlete knows about.

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suuuuure

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I just don't get how anyone can question the penalty. It's pretty cut and dried. If you mess up and are in danger of failing a test, don't cheat. That only makes it worse. It's also a pretty good rule to live by in life in general

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again, stop building strawmen. I, nor anyone else, has said the NCAA isn't following their own rules. I, nor anyone else, has said Fulton isn't stupid and shouldn't be punished. I, nor anyone else, has said he wasn't wrong for doing what he did. Try to keep up. Rules are changed all the time. People are arguing, in their opinion, a 2 year suspension is not commensurate with that specific behavior. Of course you are taking the contrarian stance because it does not involve a player from your team. Another poster brought up a former UGA player, Kolton Houston, that was in an unfortunate situation. The NCAA was simply following their own rules, so why was there outrage there? No, I'm not saying it's the same situation. I'm saying the NCAA had a rule, followed it, and people complained the rule was unfair. I just find it hilarious the cavalier stance you're taking as if rules are rules, and rules can never and should never change. You ever take any sort of basic civics class at any point in your life?