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NCAA better watch out

Posted on 12/10/09 at 1:28 am
Posted by NashvilleVol
Nashville, TN
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 12/10/09 at 1:28 am
Pulling kids from class and interviewing them without their parents presence or permission

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Recruit's father reacts

By Ed McGranahan, Greenville News emcgrana@greenvillenews.com

The father of a Byrnes High School football player committed to the University of Tennessee said he spoke to several young women at a Byrnes game whom his son met at a UT camp last summer.

Gary Willis, whose son Brandon Willis was a defensive lineman at Byrnes, said the women had promised to attend a Byrnes game.

A story in today's New York Times said the NCAA is "conducting a wide-ranging investigation" into UT football recruiting including the use of "hostesses."

Tennessee said in a statement today that it was cooperating with an NCAA review and was "concerned about the alleged activities of some members" of its ambassador program.

According to the Times, the women at the Byrnes game held up a sign during the game in September that said, "Come to Tennessee," and one of Willis' teammates said they were influential in his decision to commit to the Vols. Brandon Willis and teammate Corey Miller committed to Tennessee in September.

Byrnes head coach Chris Miller said that upon learning the women were at the game called the players and told them "to get away from them," then called UT assistant coach David Reaves.

Gary Willis said his son will graduate from Byrnes this month and will enroll in a college in January. Commitments are not binding until the players sign a National Letter of Intent in February.

"These girls had nothing to do with the impact when my son decided he would go to school at Tennessee," Willis said in a telephone interview. "They told the guys at summer camp that they were going to come to one of the games."

He said Tennessee "had nothing to do with that. They didn't even know that these kids were coming to the game."

Willis said he spoke to an NCAA representative that visited Byrnes and interviewed his son.

"I let him know first and foremost that I did not appreciate him that I didn't appreciate him getting my son out of class without his dad being there," Gary Willis said. "We have nothing to hide. Brandon is not signed to go to Tennessee. He is verbally committed to go to Tennessee. He could still go anywhere he wanted to go."
Posted by heartbreakTiger
grinding for my grinders
Member since Jan 2008
138974 posts
Posted on 12/10/09 at 1:30 am to
as daddy dale once said the ncaa is gestapo bastards
Posted by ILoveLamp
Florida
Member since Aug 2009
4303 posts
Posted on 12/10/09 at 1:31 am to
So when the NCAA is onto the Tennessee program, they're ridiculous Nazis. But if they're looking into us, they're completely justified?
Posted by NashvilleVol
Nashville, TN
Member since Jun 2009
1359 posts
Posted on 12/10/09 at 1:33 am to
quote:

So when the NCAA is onto the Tennessee program, they're ridiculous Nazis. But if they're looking into us, they're completely justified?


Never heard me pass judgement on you or any other team's transgressions. UT may or may not be in for it but all I was saying is the NCAA should be more careful when dealing with kids
Posted by heartbreakTiger
grinding for my grinders
Member since Jan 2008
138974 posts
Posted on 12/10/09 at 1:35 am to
yea pretty much
Posted by NashvilleVol
Nashville, TN
Member since Jun 2009
1359 posts
Posted on 12/10/09 at 1:36 am to
Going to sleep. I'm sure we'll all be talking about this tomorrow.
Posted by attheua
Tuscaloosa
Member since Apr 2008
5442 posts
Posted on 12/10/09 at 1:36 am to
Tennessee fans thought the NCAA was innocent as church mice when the investigators were breaking laws and lining up secret witnesses against us.

I'm glad you guys are finally getting to see how they really operate. They are their own judge and jury and I hope they show you bastards no mercy.
Posted by peopleschamp
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
6576 posts
Posted on 12/10/09 at 1:43 am to
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Pulling kids from class and interviewing them without their parents presence or permission

After 18 you are an adult, right?
Posted by memphisplaya
Member since Jan 2009
85809 posts
Posted on 12/10/09 at 1:46 am to
many recruits are still 17
Posted by peopleschamp
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
6576 posts
Posted on 12/10/09 at 2:03 am to
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many recruits are still 17

True, but with the school entry cut off date changed to around Oct. 1 in many school districts they have fewer and fewer of these 17 year olds college freshman. To be honest most athletes are 18 and many are 19 their freshman year. Many if not most really good athletes are held back or older in my experience and I see alot of it. My son is his right age in high school and he has many guys a full year and a half older than him playing in his same grade.
Posted by Lee County Tiger
I Haz Sources
Member since Oct 2009
33354 posts
Posted on 12/10/09 at 2:25 am to
Does anybody else think that maybe daddy might also be getting benefits from this deal, and he doesn't want those benefits to end?

Just saying.
Posted by rangers911
Member since Jun 2009
5159 posts
Posted on 12/10/09 at 2:40 am to
quote:

Tennessee fans thought the NCAA was innocent as church mice when the investigators were breaking laws and lining up secret witnesses against us.

I'm glad you guys are finally getting to see how they really operate. They are their own judge and jury and I hope they show you bastards no mercy.



Completely different scope of investigation. Bama's investigation had the FBI, NCAA, treasurey officials, some IRS guys. There were credible death threats made IN COURT against people, some judges were trying to find out who some witnesses were in federal cases so they could be intimdated. The crap Bama had going on was approaching mafia level of attacks, intimidation, and criminal acts being performed.

It is hard to say what happened here. If the NCAA went and said for the people go get out of class now, that is a major problem and if I were the parents I'd be pissed. If they went and asked if they could that is a different story. While they are someone's kid in the eyes of the law they are adults so they should conduct themselves accordingly and know what they have to do and what they don't have to do. Sadly most people don't educate them in these things and end up causing themselves more problems later on.
Posted by volhound
Member since Sep 2009
852 posts
Posted on 12/10/09 at 4:57 am to
quote:

Tennessee fans thought the NCAA was innocent as church mice when the investigators were breaking laws and lining up secret witnesses against us.


I call bullshite, what were you reading on Volnation, why do you have to lump the entire fan base into one great big group
This post was edited on 12/10/09 at 6:09 am
Posted by arrakis
Member since Nov 2008
21168 posts
Posted on 12/10/09 at 5:53 am to
quote:

Pulling kids from class and interviewing them without their parents presence or permission

The NCAA didn't "pull" anyone from class; the school did. In addition, they aren't investigating the kids. Maybe Dad has something to be nervous about.....
Posted by Schwaaz
Member since Sep 2009
7375 posts
Posted on 12/10/09 at 7:24 am to
Pretty sure they pulled students out of class when they talked to them about Textbook Gate.
Posted by memphisplaya
Member since Jan 2009
85809 posts
Posted on 12/10/09 at 7:28 am to
But weren't those students in college?

Were are talking about high school kids in UT's case
Posted by volnavy
Fair wind and following seas
Member since Jan 2009
748 posts
Posted on 12/10/09 at 8:05 am to
quote:

Tennessee fans thought the NCAA was innocent as church mice when the investigators were breaking laws and lining up secret witnesses against us.

I'm glad you guys are finally getting to see how they really operate. They are their own judge and jury and I hope they show you bastards no mercy.


No, we didn't. I actually thought the text book scandal was made out like a three ring circus by the NCAA.

What we are starting to realize is that Auburn seems to be that little kid that instigates fights between the two bigger kids in the schoolyard.
Posted by Alahunter
Member since Jan 2008
90738 posts
Posted on 12/10/09 at 8:15 am to
Is this the same dad that said he thinks his kid "is "dating" these girls, or whatever they call it these days"?
Posted by arrakis
Member since Nov 2008
21168 posts
Posted on 12/10/09 at 8:18 am to
quote:

Is this the same dad that said he thinks his kid "is "dating" these girls, or whatever they call it these days"?


He's the Dad who is answering questions that aren't asked....which can be telling.
Posted by Alahunter
Member since Jan 2008
90738 posts
Posted on 12/10/09 at 8:20 am to
Yup.
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