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re: Why are we building a foreign military base on American Soil? This isn't America First.
Posted by volnavy on 10/10/25 at 4:00 pm to conservativewifeymom
They had one destroyer and were very limited in what they could do.
I will bet the Qatari's are just taking over the buildings that the Saudis were using when they did the same thing. They foot the bill and we train them. Its not really the same as something like our bases in Germany or Japan
I will bet the Qatari's are just taking over the buildings that the Saudis were using when they did the same thing. They foot the bill and we train them. Its not really the same as something like our bases in Germany or Japan
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re: Why are we building a foreign military base on American Soil? This isn't America First.
Posted by volnavy on 10/10/25 at 3:53 pm to conservativewifeymom
We do host a lot of foreign nations in the US. Norfolk alone has hundreds of billeted personnel and if you are interested in seeing joint forces together, you can visit Hawaii during RIMPAC and see dozens of countries ships and sailors tied up at the piers.
From countries you would expect like Japan and some you wouldn't like China. We even form up soccer teams and play each other.
From countries you would expect like Japan and some you wouldn't like China. We even form up soccer teams and play each other.
Might not be a bad thing, but if he really was worried about that, at least start scaling it back so the universities can replace that income stream.
Like reduce by 100K a year until zero
Like reduce by 100K a year until zero
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That wasn't a statement on Canada's military was a statement on their relative geographic isolation. I don't think the Chinese have any real capacity to execute such an invasion and hopefully we won't ever have to test such a hypothesis out.
China can and is flexing on Australia currently, why couldn't they do the same to Canada, if the US isn't involved?
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And it is difficult to suggest a country with the level of development of Canada would disappear within a week, regardless.
Plenty of developed countries have fallen to hordes in a weeks time. A million armed Chinese rolling across canada would cause a complete civilization collapse.
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And the Canadians have a plan to increase their population to 100 million by 2100. Those dynamics are difficult to predict
That's not coming from Canadians breeding like rabbits, that's a complete take down of the current population.
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It also isn't going to happen.
Of course it won't, currently the US would stop them in the open Pacific. But you proffered that if Canada were to go it alone China couldn't do it. I disagreed, you war gamed this scenario and I played inside your ROE. We haven't even covered other countries ability to conquer Canada without US interference and there are a lot that could. Canada is a weak country that if you placed it anywhere else in the world in their current state would cease to exist within weeks.
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It is more likely that Indians in Canada are going to be a problem than Chinese in Canada
Still doesn't discount the sizable contingent of Chinese that made their way over to canada. Do you belive the Indian population will fight for Canada's sovereignty?
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Nah that is still a remote possibility. Until the Chinese actually execute something on the level of what the US does, I don't believe they have the ability to invade anywhere in the world like the US can.
Like the US? no, but they can execute a simple country like Canada. They definitely have that ability.
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Yeah that isn't going to happen.
Might want to look at the Chinese immigration into canada, who they are and what we found them doing. Its the true reason behind this "trade war" with canada.
They are going to be kicked in the mouth if they invade Taiwan. They would ultimately succeed. They would have an easier time with Canada, if the US wasn't involved.
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Sure, but it isn't likely they are going to target Canada for any meaningful reason, as they have immediate geopolitical concerns around China itself.
I thought the argument, there wasn't anyone who could invade canada is what we were talking about? I was just stating China could. Most likely others too.
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Yeah they would definitely lose. And I don't think they are trending in that direction currently.
Love the enthusiasm, im not so sure? A million armed crazy chinamen flooding over our border is a nightmare scenario to me.
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Are you in the Navy?
Never again volunteer yourself
I mean... where cant you project power with a carrier fleet. Yes, they are mostly focused on their immediate neighborhood, but they could bring that to Canada if they wanted, barring USA isn't in the mix, and that would be almost overkill with Canada's defense ability.
Not the same as current modern warfare models. Expeditionary units don't have to be delivered by amphibs anymore. That ghost fleet can drop enough manpower and equipment to frick over Europe, let alone canada.
Would they? I would hope so, but a million man armed conscripts could definitely frick us over and they can just keep flooding them in ala korea
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I’m not suggesting they are incompetent, I am suggesting that they are built to deal with near neighbor threats. I don’t think they have any real meaningful expeditionary capabilities at the moment.
Not the same as current modern warfare models. Expeditionary units don't have to be delivered by amphibs anymore. That ghost fleet can drop enough manpower and equipment to frick over Europe, let alone canada.
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Yeah if the goal is a potential American invasion, they will definitely lose.
Would they? I would hope so, but a million man armed conscripts could definitely frick us over and they can just keep flooding them in ala korea
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I am skeptical of China's force projection abilities. Let us see them actually dominate the South Pacific and win that theater before we imagine them rampaging along the North American coast
How skeptical are you when it comes to having aircraft carriers? They pretty much dominate in the south China Sea when we aren't present and we cant be everywhere all the time.
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We have far more experience than the Chinese, especially in terms of logistics. We've participated in several different types of operations and gained a lot of good experience from it. Moreover, we've shown the ability to project force in a way the Chinese have yet to.
Chinese learned by watching us and stealing info. They drill as much if not more than us currently.
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The Central and Eastern Pacific regions present entirely different challenges than the Southwestern Pacific, where the US is preparing for a possible clash with the Chinese.
Agreed but we are talking about China's ability to invade Canada.
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Like sleeper cells or something? I am skeptical of that actually working without direct military intervention from the parent force. Unless the point is just to cause chaos.
Chaos is what they want, they don't care about taking Canada, they just want them neutered so they can proceed south.
If we think in terms of WWII then you would be mostly correct if not for the lack of defense Canada could mount.
China does have two active aircraft carriers that Canada couldn't throw a maple leaf at. One destroyer could move up and down their western coast doing whatever it wanted.
And we can't talk of lack of war experience, the US hasn't had much of a challenge since the Cuba missile crises.
Their ghost fleet was built to be their supply chain and intelligence gathering, all deep water capable and able to move large amounts of troops anywhere they need to be while posing as commercial shipping.
I don't belive we will see D-Day type invasions anymore. More like the enemy is already there with the ability to be armed when needed.
China does have two active aircraft carriers that Canada couldn't throw a maple leaf at. One destroyer could move up and down their western coast doing whatever it wanted.
And we can't talk of lack of war experience, the US hasn't had much of a challenge since the Cuba missile crises.
Their ghost fleet was built to be their supply chain and intelligence gathering, all deep water capable and able to move large amounts of troops anywhere they need to be while posing as commercial shipping.
I don't belive we will see D-Day type invasions anymore. More like the enemy is already there with the ability to be armed when needed.
Why not?
What is required to pull it off?
What is required to pull it off?
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Listen to me. There is no state that currently exists that could mount an invasion of Canada other than the US due to Canada's geography. The US is the only country in the world with the logistical ability to pull off expeditionary operations an ocean away. No one else has that capability.
China can and has been for a several years
re: Carney's Team Humiliated In D.C. — Not A Single Meeting Secured
Posted by volnavy on 8/4/25 at 2:08 pm to Harry Boutte
This really doesnt have anything to do with trade, religious beliefs, or MAGA.
This started before Trump took office and why Trudeau unexpectedly stepped down.
The US went to Canada (behind closes doors) and talked to them about some worrying trends in relation to north America defense. They responded by trying to ally 5eyes behind our back. Trump is just using trade as an excuse to bring them down.
This started before Trump took office and why Trudeau unexpectedly stepped down.
The US went to Canada (behind closes doors) and talked to them about some worrying trends in relation to north America defense. They responded by trying to ally 5eyes behind our back. Trump is just using trade as an excuse to bring them down.
re: State Department Yanks Visas From Rap Group That Called for Murder of IDF Soldiers
Posted by volnavy on 6/30/25 at 6:30 pm to WongsPalace
Naw... he is getting publicity for calling for the killing of IDF. He said more than that.
guy's just a copyright clown, he is spinning his own lyrics on top of a RATM song. Even is name is a rip off of someone else.
guy's just a copyright clown, he is spinning his own lyrics on top of a RATM song. Even is name is a rip off of someone else.
re: JD Vance: We are seeing foreign policy develop that will change the country for the better
Posted by volnavy on 6/24/25 at 10:17 am to hawgfaninc
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brick by brick
Collective groan from eastern Tennessee
Homeless man.... let's go to his house and ask for ID???
re: Veterans Claiming 100% Disability
Posted by volnavy on 5/22/25 at 10:25 am to Carson123987
That's cause they give it to you whether you think you need it or not.
I get 50% and left in great shape and didn't even want to do the exit med exams
I get 50% and left in great shape and didn't even want to do the exit med exams
This seems too narrowly defined?
We could just play the game and deport them for being criminals and not mention affiliation to any gang.
Force the democrats to defend it by claiming they are a member of TdA
We could just play the game and deport them for being criminals and not mention affiliation to any gang.
Force the democrats to defend it by claiming they are a member of TdA
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to take out missiles in the ballistic phase
Also the true reason we want greenland
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