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re: NC ST vs UA BB

Posted on 3/22/15 at 10:14 am to
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
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Posted on 3/22/15 at 10:14 am to
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John Brady went to a Final Four. A FINAL FOUR! He should have been named LSU coach for life


What you and most of the Bama fans are missing, is the fact that Gottfried did something that other coaches failed to do after being fired. He goes and immediately takes a major job in a better Conference and wins at a consistent level. The other coaches have not done anything to disprove that their firing was unjustified. Every win by MG in the tourney, is an "in your face" statement to Bama's PTB and Paul Finebaum. I wonder if he talks about that tomorrow ?
Posted by pvilleguru
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Posted on 3/22/15 at 10:15 am to
He also walked into a situation where he had a lot more talent than he left Alabama with.
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
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Posted on 3/22/15 at 10:23 am to
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He also walked into a situation where he had a lot more talent than he left Alabama with.


Why did they fire the previous coach ?
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 3/22/15 at 10:26 am to
Because he wasn't winning. Can you not do any research on your own? Lowe was there 5 years and didn't make the tournament once.
Posted by Crimson Legend
Mount St Gumpus
Member since Nov 2004
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Posted on 3/22/15 at 10:28 am to
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Irons Puppet


Aren't you concerned that UAB athletics might be suffering while you concern yourself with NC State basketball? Who is protecting the Blazers right now?

Get your priorities straight.
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 3/22/15 at 10:29 am to
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Aren't you concerned that UAB athletics might be suffering while you concern yourself with NC State basketball? Who is protecting the Blazers right now? Get your priorities straight.


No, they are fine. They have a good coach.
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
Member since Nov 2008
72215 posts
Posted on 3/22/15 at 11:35 am to
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So what you are saying is, Alabama is not a North Carolina St. I can accept that, but can Bama fans ?


This has been admitted several times in this thread. Alabama fans want consistent tournament appearances, but understand the limitations of the program. Your troll attempt is one of the stranger ploys I've seen.
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
Member since Nov 2008
72215 posts
Posted on 3/22/15 at 11:37 am to
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Every win by MG in the tourney, is an "in your face" statement to Bama's PTB and Paul Finebaum. I wonder if he talks about that tomorrow ?


What in the bloody hell?
Posted by Dodgson
Member since Feb 2012
722 posts
Posted on 3/22/15 at 12:00 pm to
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Every win by MG in the tourney, is an "in your face" statement to Bama's PTB and Paul Finebaum.


Finebaum maybe since he did give him a ton of shite. I think Mark Gottfried understands why he is not at Bama anymore because of his mistakes and is thankful for the wake up call. I would give a speech about the tapestry of life that is woven and how going on a different path leads to a different result but at this point I just think you are being purposefully obtuse.
This post was edited on 3/22/15 at 12:02 pm
Posted by Dawghorn
Los Angeles, California
Member since Mar 2015
352 posts
Posted on 3/22/15 at 12:01 pm to
coming to a sec near you.
This post was edited on 3/22/15 at 12:03 pm
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 3/22/15 at 12:11 pm to
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This has been admitted several times in this thread. Alabama fans want consistent tournament appearances, but understand the limitations of the program. Your troll attempt is one of the stranger ploys I've seen.


What is bizarre here, is the Bama fans attempt to paint MG as a poor coach. You have the same people who claim the program has limitations, defend Coleman C in other post. They fire a coach because his salary doesn't match their expectations, but fail to admit that they might have had the solution on campus before. They think they can throw money at it, and it will fix everything.

I love watching the Bama fans post about being the 2nd winningest program in the SEC, but fail to understand that Gottfrieds success, proves 18 year old could care less about history.

Instead of blaming the coach, maybe they should look at the program and administration for the problem.

Keep posting, I enjoy the delusion of the fan base..
Posted by Dawghorn
Los Angeles, California
Member since Mar 2015
352 posts
Posted on 3/22/15 at 12:14 pm to
This post was edited on 3/22/15 at 12:22 pm
Posted by Aman
Alabama
Member since Mar 2010
5181 posts
Posted on 3/22/15 at 12:20 pm to
MG was successful at Bama much like Tubs at Auburn. He took bama to the elite 8, but as he got further along in his tenure he got lazy and stopped working as hard as he became complacent and I honestly think the Saban hire and the focus that took from Him and basketball just added to his complacency. Tubs didn't all of a sudden forget how to coach football after 10 years at Auburn. The same reason he as fired was why MG was fired. Nobody is going to deny the ACC is a better basketball conference than the SEC but to say bama basketball is bad because of the administration is ignorant you stupid shite.
Posted by Dawghorn
Los Angeles, California
Member since Mar 2015
352 posts
Posted on 3/22/15 at 12:22 pm to
You fear the peal and howland.
Posted by Monticello
Member since Jul 2010
16197 posts
Posted on 3/22/15 at 12:24 pm to
Jesus man. Most of us admit NC St is a better basketball program than Alabama. How could we not? Also, most Bama fans think Gottfried was a good coach who deservedly got fired after he got lazy and lost focus. What more do you want? All we expect is someone who can consistently get us in the tournament, like Gottfried did, and occasionally have a great season, like Gottfried did. And if our next coach does that, we will love him and support the program, unless he gets lazy and takes us for granted, like Gottfried did.
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
Member since Nov 2008
72215 posts
Posted on 3/22/15 at 12:27 pm to
You need to formalize your argument here a bit better? You're carrying on about three different arguments in one troll. Is this about MG, NC State verus Alabama, facilities in one league versus another, hierarchy of athletics at Alabama, or something entirely different?

Within the context you're framing this, it does make Alabama fans look hypocritical about MG.But there's a much larger picture.
Posted by pvilleguru
Member since Jun 2009
60453 posts
Posted on 3/22/15 at 12:27 pm to
I want better than what Gottfried did.

I was unhappy for many years before Gottfried was fired.
This post was edited on 3/22/15 at 12:29 pm
Posted by Dawghorn
Los Angeles, California
Member since Mar 2015
352 posts
Posted on 3/22/15 at 12:29 pm to
Posted by Monticello
Member since Jul 2010
16197 posts
Posted on 3/22/15 at 12:39 pm to
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I want better than what Gottfried did.



There are only about 10 programs in the nation that can reasonably expect more than what Gottfried did during his run of 5 straight NCAA's. Bama is not one of them. It's what he did after that run that got him fired.
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30600 posts
Posted on 3/22/15 at 12:41 pm to
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What is bizarre here, is the Bama fans attempt to paint MG as a poor coach. You have the same people who claim the program has limitations, defend Coleman C in other post. They fire a coach because his salary doesn't match their expectations, but fail to admit that they might have had the solution on campus before. They think they can throw money at it, and it will fix everything. I love watching the Bama fans post about being the 2nd winningest program in the SEC, but fail to understand that Gottfrieds success, proves 18 year old could care less about history. Instead of blaming the coach, maybe they should look at the program and administration for the problem. Keep posting, I enjoy the delusion of the fan base..
"After that, his tenure at Alabama was marked by key player injuries and disappointment. Alabama posted back-to-back losing seasons in the SEC in 2006–07 and 2007–08. The 2007–08 season marked the first time in nine years (only the second time under Gottfried) that Alabama did not reach either the NIT or NCAA post-season tournament, although the Tide did receive an invitation to the first annual College Basketball Invitational, which it did not accept.

On January 26, 2009, after the controversial departure of player Ronald Steele, and Gottfrieds alleged affair with a players girlfriend, Gottfried met with Alabama Athletics Director Mal Moore, and resigned mid-season as basketball coach at the University of Alabama."
This pretty much sums things up with Mark's exodus from Alabama. The only folks happier than NC St. to have him are Alabama...did I mention that he's also a prick?
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