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re: Napier should hold out for the Tenner job

Posted on 11/18/20 at 11:21 am to
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
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Posted on 11/18/20 at 11:21 am to
I'm pretty sure the twitter mob will be making hiring decisions for UT this next go around too.
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34330 posts
Posted on 11/18/20 at 11:22 am to
Butch should still be the Tenn coach right now.
Posted by TnMountaineer
Minglewood
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Posted on 11/18/20 at 11:36 am to
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Napier will be a flop in big boy football. So I'm okay with him ruining any SEC team, other than mine.


Hog fans know a lot about flopping arse coaches.
Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 11/18/20 at 11:39 am to
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I hear you. Not a terrible point. But Freeze was playing with low grade FCS talent last season, and was in his first year. This season would be a different story I suspect.


Two other points that I won't sugar coat. There is a 1.1 million dollar a year difference between Freeze's and Napier's salary. Being on the hook for Muschamp's buyout as well as the buyout of whomever we get as our next coach Napier is more attractive from an economic standpoint as well.

And I know Coach Freeze has "repented" from his personal indiscretions at Ole Miss, and I can forgive him for that as well. But there is also the specter of the NCAA violations from his time there, including having to vacate 33 wins. Any incident like that would be almost like a death sentence to a program like SC.
Posted by HalfCocked
Dirty Beach
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 11/18/20 at 11:40 am to
Why wouldn't we be? We were never lucky enough to get a Bear Bryant. We instead got faggety arse Brad Scott's. You Bama fans, I swear you have no idea just how luck you got. Its not like you were winning natty's in the days of the leather helmet.

You had a great coach who set the bar. The boosters, fans and admins wouldn't settle for less. Why the frick can't we want the same? I swear I can tell where some of y'all work and for what rate of hourly pay. Simply by your attitudes towards us.
Posted by TaterMashinCock
Columbia
Member since Aug 2019
117 posts
Posted on 11/18/20 at 12:10 pm to
We need to go ahead and lock down Napier then throw some money at Charlie Strong to come back as DC. If we're really flying high, see if we can get Beamer as OC/RC and let Napier bring his own play caller as a position coach.
Posted by ColoradoAg
Colorado
Member since Sep 2011
21951 posts
Posted on 11/18/20 at 12:23 pm to
Seriously, SC would be smart to go after Campbell. However, I don't think they are, and as an opponent that is fine with me
Posted by auburn2eugene
Now back in Oneonta Alabama
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 11/18/20 at 1:02 pm to
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PJ Fleck


Wut?!? Last season he took Minnesota to it's first 11 win season in the modern era... It's first in over a century...

It's first since 1904

MINNESOTA

That doesn't exactly scream like struggling to make a jump.

If he can win 11 AT MINNESOTA, imagine what he could do at Michigan or Ohio State. Fleck should be on a VERY short list at Michigan.
Posted by auburn2eugene
Now back in Oneonta Alabama
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1097 posts
Posted on 11/18/20 at 1:05 pm to
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let Napier bring his own play caller as a position coach.


Isn't he one of the call your own plays HC?
Posted by TaterMashinCock
Columbia
Member since Aug 2019
117 posts
Posted on 11/18/20 at 2:04 pm to
Not sure, but if so, even better. Was just looking for a way to compensate bringing in an OC he may not like, or at least hasn't worked with.
Posted by dbuchanon
Member since Nov 2014
19837 posts
Posted on 11/18/20 at 2:06 pm to
Phat Phil put his nuts on the table for Pruit... that boy ain’t goin nowhere anytime soon
Posted by Digger
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Member since Jun 2019
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Posted on 11/18/20 at 6:41 pm to
South Carolina has probably top 3 sec facilities. Everything is top notch. 247 rates them top 5 in the country. If Muschamp did one thing right it was his input in the layout. Unlike clemsin SC doesn't have a sliding board though

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This post was edited on 11/18/20 at 6:50 pm
Posted by clhawkins19
Greenville, SC
Member since Jan 2020
579 posts
Posted on 11/18/20 at 7:23 pm to
I still wouldn’t sleep on Chadwell. Definitely a unique system that could give teams fits.

Not to mention he beat Napier head to head this year with coastal Carolina.
This post was edited on 11/18/20 at 7:24 pm
Posted by Keltic Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2006
19300 posts
Posted on 11/18/20 at 7:39 pm to
"Freeze landed a top 5 - 10 recruiting class while at O.Miss". And O.Miss subsequently had to vacate 33 wins. His moral problems are one thing. As a HC, he cheated his arse off to get those players. It's one thing to "repent" for his moral lapses. Christ is forgiving. The NCAA, not so much.
Posted by TrueLefty
St. Louis County
Member since Oct 2017
14934 posts
Posted on 11/18/20 at 8:04 pm to
quote:

PJ Fleck


Wut?!? Last season he took Minnesota to it's first 11 win season in the modern era... It's first in over a century...

It's first since 1904

MINNESOTA

That doesn't exactly scream like struggling to make a jump.

If he can win 11 AT MINNESOTA, imagine what he could do at Michigan or Ohio State. Fleck should be on a VERY short list at Michigan.


How's he doing this year?
Then look at Satterfield at Louisville this year. Similar situation. Great last year then not so this year.
This post was edited on 11/18/20 at 8:12 pm
Posted by TrueLefty
St. Louis County
Member since Oct 2017
14934 posts
Posted on 11/19/20 at 12:49 am to
What if no other coaches are fired that are at a P5 that a good HC would go there and Colina would get the cherry pick from a list of coaches that would take the job. That would be nice for Carolina! Only issue is Tanner will find a way to mess it up and hire someone else that might be a shocker!
This post was edited on 11/19/20 at 12:55 am
Posted by TrueLefty
St. Louis County
Member since Oct 2017
14934 posts
Posted on 11/19/20 at 1:01 am to
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Fickell to Michigan
Freeze to Tennessee
Naiper to LSU
Beamer to S.Carolina


No chance we make that smart of a hire. We'll screw it up way worse than that. We will probably pull a wildcard and hire Willie Taggart.


I forgot about him. That wouldn't be a bad hire after all!
Posted by TrueLefty
St. Louis County
Member since Oct 2017
14934 posts
Posted on 11/19/20 at 1:20 am to
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Hell, even if for some reason James Franklin would have been really in love with the Vandy job and decided to stay who knows how theyre doing right now.



I saw a slow declined to Vandy football when Gary Pinkel won the east and was making a difference that was putting Vandy going backwards. The PSU job opening up was just perfect timing for him to leave. I knew he would start the same thing at PSU. See what happening at PSU? He isn't a very good HC. Barry Odom is another one. Just not that good for the SEC. People are figuring out and beating him. Then look at the recruiting classes. They were in the 30s-40s. Not good enough to compete in the SEC. Drinkwitz is doing great so far but will he get better and be in the top 3 in the East division in his 3rd year? Then there is a must do to get better recruits and be in the top 20 in the class every year. That is a hard knock. But I really like what he is doing so far and it looks like he can do it at Missouri. MSU is going to crash and burn and might be best to make a change at the HC position by the end of the year. If he does improved his schemes and running the ball a lot more then might be ok. I doubt it since he was doing the same thing at all the other stops and too many years as a HC and hasn't learned one bit!
Posted by TrueLefty
St. Louis County
Member since Oct 2017
14934 posts
Posted on 11/19/20 at 1:33 am to
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Napier will be a flop in big boy football. So I'm okay with him ruining any SEC team, other than mine.

to whoever takes him.



How would you know? Drinkwitz has been doing very well so far and your fan base have said Drinkwitz isn't going to be good at Mizzou. Yet Arkansas hired 3 failed HCs before you got Pittman. I am not sure how he will do but he is going to be right there with Drinkwitz. No one will know for sure if Drinkwitz and Pittman can get it done and win 9-10 games in their 3rd or 4th year.
Posted by TrueLefty
St. Louis County
Member since Oct 2017
14934 posts
Posted on 11/19/20 at 1:47 am to
Missouri doesn't count? Might be careful about Drinkwitz. He can coach. Recruiting classes should get better. UF, UGA, UM, USCe, UK, UT, VU. That is where I am guessing will go next year. Then it will changed a bit not a huge swing until Tennessee hires someone at the end of next year.
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