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re: Mythbusters (NFL Players by State)
Posted on 4/10/21 at 2:58 pm to LSUGrad2005
Posted on 4/10/21 at 2:58 pm to LSUGrad2005
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Who really knows and honestly I do not know anyone from Louisiana that hangs their hat on this statistic.
LSU is National brand and gets players from everywhere. Likewise with Clemson, OSU and Bama also Georgia.
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Posted on 4/10/21 at 3:01 pm to RD Dawg
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"Per capita" is a silly argument anyway.It should be per participant.It gives you a much clearer picture and Florida would probably be way out in front.
I mean, its certainly a much better view than just looking at total #s.
Posted on 4/10/21 at 3:05 pm to Jacknola
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Oh, guess what.. Alabama is has a bigger population than LA does, and SC has a lot more than either
Also depends on age demographics as well.Florida probably has highest percentage of elderly people by far
over a state like Alabama or Florida and completely skews the "Per capita" arguement.
As I said before, a "per participant" count would give a much better indication of talent produced.
Posted on 4/10/21 at 3:11 pm to kengel2
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mean, its certainly a much better view than just looking at total #s.
But it still doesn't give you much to back up any type of point one way or another and in the end its the total number that matters the most anyway.
I mean if you're a college recruiter with limited time and availability you're gonna recruit areas with bigger populations that produce more prospects.Its simple math.
Posted on 4/10/21 at 3:40 pm to BhamDore
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People in Louisiana believe they have this insane talent pool over other states when in reality it's not true.
LSU advantage comes from the only school in a major conference in their state.
It's the same advantage Ohio State has.
Who has disputed that point?
Its why folks say a job like Georgia or LSU is better than a job like Alabama.
Posted on 4/10/21 at 4:23 pm to themicah85
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I mean does the per capita really mean Anything? I would say the amount your state has is what matters and Georgia has it in spades but thats still kindve a crapshoot.
Yes that's why I started off with per State. I think per capita is an overblown statistic but added in because I knew some would want to lean on that.
Posted on 4/10/21 at 4:38 pm to SmokeTide
quote:Depends on how it is used.
I think per capita is an overblown statistic
A football player from MS is more likely to be NFL Caliber, than a FL player, statistically speaking.
That is a pretty significant. There maybe fewer players to recruit from MS, but the likelihood you grab one that is NFL caliber is greater.
Louisiana may recruit nationally, but the core of LSU's success is the curiously high number of high caliber players they grab from Louisiana.
Posted on 4/10/21 at 4:43 pm to Roaad
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A football player from MS is more likely to be NFL Caliber, than a FL player, statistically speaking.
Just population without looking at age demographics and the number of participants is useless. Without that, your statement is garbage.
Posted on 4/10/21 at 4:47 pm to RD Dawg
quote:LINK
Just population without looking at age demographics and the number of participants is useless.
Link me anything that breaks it down by age demo, and I will acknowledge. Lacking such, your objection is garbage
The link I used breaks it down by population
quote:I operate on available data.
your statement is garbage.
This post was edited on 4/10/21 at 4:49 pm
Posted on 4/10/21 at 4:49 pm to RD Dawg
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Just population without looking at age demographics and the number of participants is useless. Without that, your statement is garbage.
Posted on 4/10/21 at 4:53 pm to SidewalkTiger
What part of that is difficult to understand?
What percentage of Louisiana's population participates in HS FB compared to Florida?
I would bet it's much higher.
Its pretty easy to figure but I have to remind myself of who I'm responding to.
What percentage of Louisiana's population participates in HS FB compared to Florida?
I would bet it's much higher.
Its pretty easy to figure but I have to remind myself of who I'm responding to.
Posted on 4/10/21 at 4:57 pm to RD Dawg
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What part of that is difficult to understand?
What percentage of Louisiana's population participates in HS FB compared to Florida?
I would bet it's much higher.
Its pretty easy to figure but I have to remind myself of who I'm responding to.
Well compare the numbers and get back to us then
Posted on 4/10/21 at 4:57 pm to RD Dawg
Here is the ranking for D1 players per state, as a percentage of the number of participants.
LINK
No numbers available for NFL.
So given the data, you are more likely to get a D-1 offer from FL, but more likely to get into the NFL from GA, LA, MS, AL.
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Florida: 9.9 percent
Georgia: 8.6 percent
Louisiana: 8.3 percent
Washington, D.C.: 7.2 percent
Maryland: 6.5 percent
Tennessee: 6.2 percent
South Carolina: 6.2 percent
North Carolina: 5.9 percent
Virginia: 5.6 percent
Delaware: 5.1 percent
LINK
No numbers available for NFL.
So given the data, you are more likely to get a D-1 offer from FL, but more likely to get into the NFL from GA, LA, MS, AL.
Posted on 4/10/21 at 5:14 pm to RD Dawg
Posted on 4/10/21 at 6:07 pm to RD Dawg
I really don't give a shite. I know louisiana produces super talented players and can compete with any state in that metric however you choose to calculate it, measure it, or whatever. They win us natty's pretty regularly, though I believe we should win more. Georgia doesn't win shite. I think their hs football talent is overrated anyway due to the exposure to media they get from being so close to atl and a media hub. Either that or they just don't produce in college for uga? Lol, either way it doesn't matter to me bc louisiana talent produces natty's for lsu and that isn't gonna stop.
Posted on 4/10/21 at 6:16 pm to Roaad
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So given the data, you are more likely to get a D-1 offer from FL, but more likely to get into the NFL from GA, LA, MS, AL.
The data is insufficient to make that conclusion.
It's certainly possible but there many other variables other than population.
This post was edited on 4/10/21 at 6:18 pm
Posted on 4/10/21 at 6:34 pm to ImayGoLesMiles
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really don't know shite
FIFY
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football talent is overrated anyway due to the exposure to media they get from being so close to atl and a media hub
???? So all those players that go on to the NFL because of Atlanta is a "media hub?"
Is 24/7 based in Atlanta? Rivals? ESPN? Sorry,HS FB really isn't CNN's thing.
Louisiana certainly produces great players but there really isn't much difference between your state and Bama and your state is also seeing a decline or even flat lines in blue chip and D1 talent produced.Obviously has more to do with the economy and folks moving out of tbe state.(You had 11 in '21) Alabama had more and Georgia had 3X that amount.
Why in the world do you think LSU should have "won more" NC's?
Posted on 4/10/21 at 7:20 pm to RD Dawg
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Per capita" is a silly argument anyway.
That’s like saying density is a silly measurement.
Posted on 4/10/21 at 7:47 pm to TigerinKorea
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That’s like saying density is a silly measurement.
I guess depending on circumstances in states like Louisiana or Alabama high-end D1/NFL players are a high commodity. Which sheds light on per capita debate. States with high population and diverse economic development it's quantity of said players.
Florida Texas California all have aleast three in state P5s they compete against directly. Georgia is a quagmire because you have so many good P5s in surrounding states so saying they have outright advantages is an adventurous argument.
Posted on 4/10/21 at 7:51 pm to Jacknola
No one was exaggerating moron. I put cali’s pop with Florida’s much higher number in the NFL by mistake. Makes my point even more solid with a 170 to 30+million ratio. But thanks for playing.
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