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re: Mullen has a hell of a rebuild on his hands

Posted on 5/7/18 at 10:36 am to
Posted by Arksulli
Fayetteville
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 5/7/18 at 10:36 am to
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division titles are absolutely something to celebrate at Arky, Florida has higher expectations...




Don't make me beat you to death with one of our national titles. We've got plenty to spare.
Posted by bigDgator
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2008
41251 posts
Posted on 5/7/18 at 10:38 am to
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This is SOP for media releases when a new coach takes over for an ousted coach


I am sick of it. Bad mouthing people is so fricking petty. Oh they have left us a team full of shitty weak arse players, this is going to be much harder than we thought when we took the job and spoke of competing for national championships.

I don't want to hear it. Win or GTFO.
Posted by momentoftruth87
Member since Oct 2013
71421 posts
Posted on 5/7/18 at 10:40 am to
bigDgator

I agree with you. The head coach gets plenty of money and it shouldnt be an excuse. The team should be worried about getting better than worrying about the past. Changes were made and now its time as a team to improve.
Posted by scrooster
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Posted on 5/7/18 at 11:07 am to
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I know it may be easy to lose track with our proliferation of newer shitheads but BHM is one of the better posters we have. He's our version of SOG that actually posts stats, facts, and other worthwhile things.



I get that, I do, and agree he is usually pretty level-headed when it comes to offering-up stats and reasoning for his claims.

But to declare the East to be UGA and the rest of the East shite ... that's just ignorance. That sounds way too much like West hubris. Suddenly Georgia is the only program in the East endeavoring to improve?

frick that. That's crazy talk.

No one is sitting still.

The East has what, two new coaches at UT and UF ... no, wait, three counting Mizzou (How long has Odom been there)? Two fairly new coaches in Kirby and Boom. The two senior guys now are at Ky in Stoops and the guy at Vandy.

The East will never again be as top-to-bottom good as the West because the West doesn't have Kentucky and Vandy. That's just the simple fact of the matter. But neither will the West be as good, top-to-bottom, in basketball (men's or women's) or baseball as The East is in most years. LSU will just about always be good and carry the West in baseball and A&M and MSU will help in their good years - both should be perennial post-season partipants honestly but over the long run they will not be as successful as Florida, Vandy and SC in baseball.

That's how the conference is made-up and it's never going to change.

Georgia certainly appears to be on top of the East for the foreseeable future, no doubt about it, and y'all should be with your recruiting base and Kirby at the helm.

SC and UF will catch-up eventually and things will be more interesting when that happens.

The jury is still out on UT football. They've been down so long it may take them awhile. Barnes will turn them into a basketball powerhouse while he is there though.

Mizzou, who knows, they may have shot their wad in football and are destined to eventually get-back to being just a basketball school alongside KY. Top to bottom though, the East is the basketball division.

Vandy is always going to be a baseball school.

But this narrative that, in the East, everyone below Georgia is shite ... that's pure bullshite.

The SEC East still compares favorably to just about any other P5 Division in college football and will only continue to improve and get better. That's no shite.

And if any UGA fan honesy believes SC is going to be an easy out, or UF in a year or two for that matter ... well, I can all but assure you that Kirby Smart's mother did not raise such a foolish child. He'll laugh at UGA fans that believe all UGA is gonna have to do in Columbia or Jacksonville is show-up to get a W.
This post was edited on 5/7/18 at 11:17 am
Posted by dcbl
Good guys wear white hats.
Member since Sep 2013
29665 posts
Posted on 5/7/18 at 11:11 am to
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My personal assessment as far as eye test

Bama and UGA are easily the two biggest teams in the league.

Auburn and LSU have a bunch of big guys but not the same shear number as Bama and UGA. I would say these 4 teams are consistently in the top 10 as far as size and strength.

A&M and Miss State starting 22 have good size and strength. Noticeable drop off once backups come in.

The rest look to have a clear size and strength disadvantage from the top 6 IMO.


I think you are seriously under valuing S Car
Posted by dcbl
Good guys wear white hats.
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 5/7/18 at 11:15 am to
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That's how the conference is made-up and it's never going to change.



God I hope you are wrong about that

a pod system would be awesome...

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But this narrative that the East, everyone below Georgia, is shite ... that's bullshite.



100% agree
Posted by scrooster
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Posted on 5/7/18 at 11:28 am to
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I think you are seriously under valuing S Car


... he seriously did, and we're just ignoring his ignorance at the moment. It's impossible to get-through to some of the thicker skulls around here at times.

We're smaller off the ends, undersized at DE ... but their stocky and quick and we like them in their Buck roles that most Auburn fans are familiar-with.

We're big everywhere else. Big interior DLinemen, NFL size. Big offensive linemen. Big backers. Big QBs. Big WRs. Big secondary ... as big as most. RBs are stout with the exception of AJ but he's our change of pace guy.

Hell, in the gif included in the OP the person talking even mentioned mUSChamp's players at UF and he directly mentioned SC's size and strength this past season.

Yes, he (the post you quoted) is seriously selling SC's size short ... and everyone knows, as alluded-to in the OP, that Muschamp cracks the whip when it comes to S&C and Dillman and his crew are beasts pushing their year-round regime. We've got weight coaches for every position ... ex-players who were known in their days for being gods in the weight room and our Muschamp organized S&C program is intense and one of the reasons for our turnaround. Hurst credits it for his 1st round draft status and current players saw first hand the fruits of his labor.
This post was edited on 5/7/18 at 11:32 am
Posted by Che Boludo
Member since May 2009
18179 posts
Posted on 5/7/18 at 11:31 am to
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This is SOP for media releases when a new coach takes over for an ousted coach
This.

Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32830 posts
Posted on 5/7/18 at 11:46 am to
It’s not that uf guys got smaller under Mac, uga guys just got bigger under Kirby.
Posted by scrooster
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Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 5/7/18 at 11:51 am to
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It’s not that uf guys got smaller under Mac, uga guys just got bigger under Kirby.


::::: sighhhhhhhh :::::

Read this again ... the "when we played teams like Alabama, Georgia, South Carolina, we just looked small" part.

Posted by bgator85
Sarasota
Member since Aug 2007
6022 posts
Posted on 5/7/18 at 11:51 am to
S&C was a mess under Mac, it was a major source of contention. We had a number of guys that refused to train at UF, and paid their own way to train at facilities around Gainesville. In typical Mac fashion, he decided not to address it.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32830 posts
Posted on 5/7/18 at 11:53 am to
Sorry man. I can’t speak for sc.
Posted by scrooster
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Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 5/7/18 at 11:55 am to
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God I hope you are wrong about that

a pod system would be awesome


We can only hope ... and keep our fingers crossed. But I've not had much faith in SEC home office leadership and ingenuity lately, especially since the current yankee took over.

Kramer may have had the foresight, Slive just cruised in a favorable environment ... but this current guy, he's showing no imagination whatsoever.
Posted by DBU
Member since Mar 2014
19059 posts
Posted on 5/7/18 at 12:02 pm to
Starting the excuses in May
Posted by GatorBait24
Pensacola
Member since Jul 2016
5380 posts
Posted on 5/7/18 at 12:13 pm to
Yeah this is an excuse, I don’t care what the last guy did, Mullen needs to get them in shape and win, Every program says they had these problems when they switch coaches.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32830 posts
Posted on 5/7/18 at 12:14 pm to
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Every program says they had these problems when they switch coaches.


It’s why year 1 is typically a transition year.
Posted by bgator85
Sarasota
Member since Aug 2007
6022 posts
Posted on 5/7/18 at 12:26 pm to
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I don’t care what the last guy did


It does make a difference. If there weren't issues to fix, the last guy wouldn't have been run out of town. Some things can't be corrected overnight. I have high expectations as well, but I expect transition issues. Meyer is a great coach that walked into a great situation, he still went 9-3 year one.
This post was edited on 5/7/18 at 12:27 pm
Posted by GatorBait24
Pensacola
Member since Jul 2016
5380 posts
Posted on 5/7/18 at 12:32 pm to
This Florida team will be battling to get bowl eligible, we are thin at a ton of important spots, QB, DT, LB. Mullen needs to get on the trail and pull in some studs, that’s the only way he’s going to win. Complaining about the fired coaches S&C program is pointless, which I’m sure it was bad, but he’s got 4 years to make the program what he wants and compete for a CFP spot. That’s plenty of time at UF.
Posted by HTDawg
Member since Sep 2016
6683 posts
Posted on 5/7/18 at 12:44 pm to
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And yet he still managed 2 SEC East Titles....


Precisely why Mark Richt was let go. He couldn't win a terrible SEC East his last three years.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
56235 posts
Posted on 5/7/18 at 12:50 pm to
Mullen had weak, slow de conditioned players last year. And beat us by 128.

No excuses
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