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re: Mullen getting boat raced by Richt and Taggert.......
Posted on 7/1/18 at 10:55 am to aufbfan
Posted on 7/1/18 at 10:55 am to aufbfan
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Mullen is actually a damn good coach.
His coaching record says otherwise. Which coach between Mullen/Taggart would you rather have?
A. Great recruiter who struggles at first but steadily builds up the program infusing elite talent and improving each year while being fun to be around?
Or
B. A subpar recruiter who does well with what he has but struggles to be consistent each year, loses to teams he shouldn't and has a reputation of being a dick and arrogant?
Bookmark it. Outside of an easy cupcake laced schedule like 2018 Mullen and his current staff will not win 10 games while here.
The only way they do if he changes his arrogance and fires Hevesy, Knox, Scott and Warren and hires elite recruiters. We overpaid big time for Mullen
This post was edited on 7/1/18 at 10:58 am
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Posted on 7/1/18 at 10:55 am to MaroonNation
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he will likely tell any 4-5* that he doesn’t care who they are,
I like this.
Posted on 7/1/18 at 10:57 am to bigDgator
he will likely tell any 4-5* that he doesn’t care who they are,
I like this.
The problem is he's not meyer or saban. Mac did the same thing. How'd that work?
I like this.
The problem is he's not meyer or saban. Mac did the same thing. How'd that work?
Posted on 7/1/18 at 11:02 am to bigDgator
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like this.
Do you hate recruiting success?
Posted on 7/1/18 at 11:09 am to djsdawg
Apparently he does
Posted on 7/1/18 at 11:31 am to TJGator1215
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A subpar recruiter who does well with what he has but struggles to be consistent each year, loses to teams he shouldn't and has a reputation of being a dick and arrogant?
Mullen has gone to 8 straight bowl games- he is the model on consistency.
In 9 seasons as a HC- Mullen only lost 2 games in which he was favored if I remember correctly. His M.O. is that he wins the games he should.
He is a solid coach and average recruiter. While he doesnt land many big fish, he does manage to find a couple of diamonds each year. That wont cut it at Florida most likely unfortunately.
Posted on 7/1/18 at 11:40 am to TJGator1215
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His coaching record says otherwise. Which coach between Mullen/Taggart would you rather have?
A. Great recruiter who struggles at first but steadily builds up the program infusing elite talent and improving each year while being fun to be around?
Or
B. A subpar recruiter who does well with what he has but struggles to be consistent each year, loses to teams he shouldn't and has a reputation of being a dick and arrogant?
Bookmark it. Outside of an easy cupcake laced schedule like 2018 Mullen and his current staff will not win 10 games while here.
The only way they do if he changes his arrogance and fires Hevesy, Knox, Scott and Warren and hires elite recruiters. We overpaid big time for Mullen
I think you nailed it. Both situations can be worked around if you hire the right staff.
Crackerjack coordinators/recruiters for Taggert and... uh pretty much the same for Mullen (if he doesn't call his own plays).
Thing is I don't think the playcaller coach (see Spurrier, Steve) is really the way to go.
There is always another hotshot who wants to make his bones and climb the ladder; some of them can do it.
But having a head guy who is also an ace recruiter is a huge advantage, no matter how good your staff is at recruiting (and no matter how good your recruiting grounds).
I'm no Clemson fan, but in a lot of ways Dabo is the model of what you want a modern head coach to be.
Relentless recruiter, always promoting the brand (I think he stalks sideline reporters so he can talk and talk at halftime).
He used to get mocked, but he is smart enough not to handicap his coordinators, and however Clemson is doing it, whether Dabo handpicks guys or they have some Star Chamber committee doing it, they seem to be getting the right guys to be coordinators.
He'd be a fool to leave Clemson, even if Alabama came calling one day, but a guy with similar strengths could do very well at Alabama - or anywhere really.
Taggart seems like he is cut from the same mold.
Posted on 7/1/18 at 12:21 pm to Che Boludo
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yet, he still managed to lose the Egg Bowl in 2017.
Are you starting to understand why State fans aren't broken hearted he's gone yet?
Posted on 7/1/18 at 12:28 pm to KeoDawg
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Mullen has gone to 8 straight bowl games- he is the model on consistency.
In 9 seasons as a HC- Mullen only lost 2 games in which he was favored if I remember correctly. His M.O. is that he wins the games he should.
5-7
9-4
7-6
8-5
7-6
10-3
9-4
6-7
8-4
That is inconsistent
I do agree he wins the games he should but there is no excuse to lose to South Alabama in year 8 and drop 95% of the big games you play
Posted on 7/1/18 at 12:48 pm to boot
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It doesn’t get much better come signing day. He’ll finish with a 20-25th class, which was good at State, but Florida ain’t putting up with that shite
He not coaching at a SEC bottom feeder anymore.
Posted on 7/1/18 at 12:51 pm to tjv305
September 29.
Posted on 7/1/18 at 1:16 pm to KeoDawg
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Mullen only lost 2 games in which he was favored
Wrong. This a false narrative. It has looked that way because Croom had us losing to Maine, LA Tech, Tulane, UAB, etc. The only "ugly" loss on that scale was South Alabama. Mullen actually lost several games when favored: 2009(Houston),2011(Auburn,),2012(Northwestern),2014(Ole Miss, GA Tech), 2016(South Al,Kentucky,Arkansas),2017(Ole Miss). Now that's not many, but it's 9 not 2. In return he won 10 games while being favored. So, with Dan things usually even out.
Posted on 7/1/18 at 1:32 pm to tjv305
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He not coaching at a SEC bottom feeder anymore.
You mean traditionally?
Because ... um, 2017, remind me where UF finished?
Not a knock on UF but strictly speaking and given the urban dictionary's definition of "bottom feeder" and all. Just sayin' ... don't be a vol. Look at where their "we're not bottom feeders" talking points have gotten them over the past 10 years. When all else fails it's better to wait and see, is it not?
Your enthusiasm is understandable though.
Posted on 7/1/18 at 1:35 pm to koreandawg
This subject has been beaten to death lately.
Posted on 7/1/18 at 2:10 pm to tjv305
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He not coaching at a SEC bottom feeder anymore.
Good luck with that line of thinking. He’ll be gone in 3 years, and y’all will continue to drop down the SEC east relevancy scale.
Posted on 7/1/18 at 2:14 pm to boot
It sounds like Mullen may have similar success at Florida as he did at Miss St if he doesn’t take advantage and recruit at an elite level.
Which is good but not great. I would still gladly take him as HC over what we have. :/
Which is good but not great. I would still gladly take him as HC over what we have. :/
Posted on 7/1/18 at 9:09 pm to ForeverGator
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1) it’s cyclical.
2) both FSU and Miami have had more recent success. These kids were like 8 when Florida won it’s title.
3) Mullen will get a top 15 class this year. Maybe even top 10 if he gets Florida to 9 wins. It’ll sell itself
Top 10 won't cut it in the East anymore, just like it won't cut it in the West.
Gators way behind like everyone else.... It's a long way to the top....
Posted on 7/1/18 at 9:32 pm to koreandawg
Without a transcendent qb, Florida is always a marginal team. Mullen will do ok but not what they expect.
Posted on 7/2/18 at 5:10 am to TouchdownTony
He'll get them back to respectability. Top 15, maybe top ten team most years. The problem with that is admin will keep waiting for him to move up and you look like pieces of shite for firing a quality coach that's winning at what is a respectable clip most places. It may be easier for UF to fire him quicker since they've had higher levels of success in recent years. Richt was the second best coach in our history and has the highest winning pct. of any that coached for more than just a handful of years.
This post was edited on 7/2/18 at 5:11 am
Posted on 7/2/18 at 6:13 am to koreandawg
Mullen hasn't even coached 1 game yet at UF. Folks should wait til he has 2018 under his belt. He has a disadvantage
right of having a school that hasn't been very good since 2009.
Recruits look at this and with success on the field will come more success in getting higher rated recruits. With 10 starters back on offense and 7 on defense Mullen should be able to produce a good record. If he doesn't....then the job gets tougher. Any idiot that thinks he would be fired after 1 or 2 years is crazy, He will get 3 years to prove himself and maybe four years if there is some improvement.
right of having a school that hasn't been very good since 2009.
Recruits look at this and with success on the field will come more success in getting higher rated recruits. With 10 starters back on offense and 7 on defense Mullen should be able to produce a good record. If he doesn't....then the job gets tougher. Any idiot that thinks he would be fired after 1 or 2 years is crazy, He will get 3 years to prove himself and maybe four years if there is some improvement.
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