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Posted on 9/12/18 at 9:27 am to momentoftruth87
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Wut? The backup looked better imo.
You're not the only one that thinks that. From watching them, having Fitz at QB is basically them running the wildcat every play. There is zero reason to worry about their passing game. With that backup, at least he looks more comfortable throwing the ball. Once State plays against any team that can stop the run, then they are royally screwed, unless they put in a QB that is capable of completing a vertical pass.
Posted on 9/12/18 at 9:28 am to Vecchio Cane
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I thought Mario Hagan was 98? oh well, that was a lot of lost grey matter ago
You're correct. Davis was #99. I've slept a few times, and had a few drinks since those days.
91 Keith Adams, NG 6-1 287 Sr Little Rock, AR
92 Ellis Wyms, DT 6-3 273 Jr Indianola, MS
93 Darius Brown, NG 6-0 262 Jr Amory, MS
94 Toby Golliday, DL 6-2 295 Jr Cleveland, MS
95 John Hilliard, DT 6-3 278 Sr Houston, TX
96 Willie Blade, DL 6-2 300 Jr Warner Robins, GA
97 Alvin McKinley, NG 6-4 285 Sr McCool, MS
98 Mario Haggan, DT 6-3 275 Fr Clarksdale, MS
99 Dorsett Davis, DT 6-6 303 So Cleveland, MS
Posted on 9/12/18 at 9:32 am to Drebin
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had a few drinks since those days.
me too, brother.
Damn, Ellis Wyms was so good too
Posted on 9/12/18 at 9:32 am to Pickle_Weasel
Tbh I think one of his problems is that he's not who the media thought he'd be. That's not a nock though, he's still a good QB that is coming off an injury. He's just not going to be "that guy" that most thought this year. The bad thing for him though is competition is only going to get more difficult.
Posted on 9/12/18 at 9:35 am to Drebin
They looked pretty good against KSU but KSU barely beat an FCS team in week 1. Fitz looks like the same guy he has always been. I think at some point, you are what you are and that's a good runner and so-so passer. Combine that with only 1, maybe 2 SEC quality WR and I don't see the deep ball coming this year. The strength of the MSU passing game with Fitz is play-action to the TE. That was effective last year and he hit a couple against KSU as well.
Kylin Hill may make it to where Fitz doesn't have to do much though. I wonder what Aeris Williams is in the doghouse for.
Kylin Hill may make it to where Fitz doesn't have to do much though. I wonder what Aeris Williams is in the doghouse for.
This post was edited on 9/12/18 at 9:36 am
Posted on 9/12/18 at 9:37 am to Quicksilver
With Hill in the backfield, I would think that play-action will be available anytime NF wants it.
Posted on 9/12/18 at 9:37 am to Pickle_Weasel
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There is zero reason to worry about their passing game
State HAS to run the ball though. Keytaon fumbling every time he got hit in the Egg Bowl makes me glad to keep Nick back there.
Honestly, flirting with the back-up is not something we MSU fans are used to. QB talent isn't exactly a historical strength. Thanks Merlin
This post was edited on 9/12/18 at 9:41 am
Posted on 9/12/18 at 9:38 am to Quicksilver
Yeah, but it's week 3 and this isn't dakman and Robinson 
They will get shut down if teams focus on those two.
They will get shut down if teams focus on those two.
Posted on 9/12/18 at 9:39 am to momentoftruth87
Kylin Hill is or will probably be better than Robinson but I agree that Fitz is no Dak.
Posted on 9/12/18 at 9:42 am to Quicksilver
I will agree and I think that's the short comings. He needs to settle down and just relax. I was a bit sad to see the rpo passing part. Swing passes and screens won't bode well against better corners & defenses gaining yards. Maybe he will settle down this week, who knows?!?
Posted on 9/12/18 at 9:46 am to Quicksilver
I agree with the boards assessment, but I also like to argue so I'm taking the Fitz = underrated passer stance.
Through 2 games Coach JoMo has not called a single "easy throw" to break the QB in and get him warmed up and in a rhythm. I don't think State has run any kind of underneath call, no screen or anything. If they have it hasn't been prevalent.
Those are the kind of throws and routes that equal a 60%+ completion percentage. Am I way off about this?
Through 2 games Coach JoMo has not called a single "easy throw" to break the QB in and get him warmed up and in a rhythm. I don't think State has run any kind of underneath call, no screen or anything. If they have it hasn't been prevalent.
Those are the kind of throws and routes that equal a 60%+ completion percentage. Am I way off about this?
Posted on 9/12/18 at 9:48 am to momentoftruth87
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I will agree and I think that's the short comings. He needs to settle down and just relax. I was a bit sad to see the rpo passing part. Swing passes and screens won't bode well against better corners & defenses gaining yards. Maybe he will settle down this week, who knows?!?
He made some really good throws, too. I recall a terrible throw on a comeback route early in the game, and I recall overthrows on three or four home run balls that weren't very good efforts. But I recall some really good throws over the middle, including a couple of drops, and a TD pass on the run that he put in the receivers hands and he dropped.
Fitz is no Joe Montana. But he's going to be fine.
People talking about our lack of talent at WR are going to be shocked when we play their teams. We have WRs streaking open on almost every play. It's a combination of our running attack being so good, along with our receivers running option routes based on how they are played defensively. Fitz will improve. The word is that he's improved significantly at this in practice...he just needs to take it to the field.
Posted on 9/12/18 at 9:55 am to BulldogXero
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games into the season, I don't know why anyone would say we are better this year than we were in 2014.
We looked like shite 2 games into 2014. It wasn’t until the LSU game that we started playing good
Posted on 9/12/18 at 9:57 am to RebelExpress38
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Fitz still can’t throw it. If any team can limit their run game they will be shut down on offense.
We certainly want Fitz to hit more passes, but Moorhead's system is built on receivers getting depth on pretty much every play. You have to cover them, and it gets the game down to 9 on 9 or 8 on 8 in the run game and short passing game.
Mullen rarely had receivers more than 10 or 15 yards downfield, and the read option still worked well for the most part. Moorhead is trying to reduce the number of people around the ball by means other than just running a spread. The plays when he doesn't go deep are then run option, run option, pass option depending on the pre-snap and post-snap reads. It is really just a shotgun formation variation on the old wishbone, but the pitch option has become a pass option.
Fitz and Hill are a good running combo. Fitz only went to the third option a couple of times last week because he really didn't need it. When teams start stacking up, you will see Fitz attempting more passes on this play when he approaches the line of scrimmage.
Posted on 9/12/18 at 10:01 am to Vecchio Cane
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. I don't think State has run any kind of underneath call, no screen or anything. If they have it hasn't been prevalent.
Those are the kind of throws and routes that equal a 60%+ completion percentage. Am I way off about this?
Iirc this is what I saw completion wise, but I have a shite memory and probably wrong.
Posted on 9/12/18 at 10:04 am to momentoftruth87
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Iirc this is what I saw completion wise, but I have a shite memory and probably wrong.
You're prolly right. Like we know what we're talking about
Posted on 9/12/18 at 10:05 am to Vecchio Cane
Not saying that at all lol.
Posted on 9/12/18 at 10:51 am to Vecchio Cane
quote:Guidry looks the part of a SEC reciever
I think the problem is that MSU still doesn't have an SEC WR.
Posted on 9/12/18 at 10:56 am to joshua2571
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Guidry looks the part of a SEC reciever
I think Austin Williams does also. He shouldn't have dropped that TD though.
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