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Posted on 5/29/24 at 9:13 am to HotRock
Posted on 5/29/24 at 9:13 am to HotRock
I don’t think the radar gun that measured his pitch speed was accurate. I’m aware of the reasoning that has perpetuated the myth and it’s fun to say Ryan threw 108. It’s like everyone watched the Fastball doc and just ran with it as the gospel.
To put it simply, the fastest pitch ever recorded is 105.5. So I’m to believe that a pitcher 50 years ago, who didn’t have the benefit of modern training, threw 3 MPH faster than anyone ever has since. Not likely
To put it simply, the fastest pitch ever recorded is 105.5. So I’m to believe that a pitcher 50 years ago, who didn’t have the benefit of modern training, threw 3 MPH faster than anyone ever has since. Not likely
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Posted on 5/29/24 at 9:17 am to BigDickRick16
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Tennessee will roll out arms every year that can throw 100mph+ going forward
I bet the trophies they give out for that are awesome.
Posted on 5/29/24 at 9:33 am to BigDickRick16
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This was at a neutral site in Hoover
If you actually watched the games you would have heard the announcers talking about the difference in ESPN's reported speeds compared to the stadium's.
Posted on 5/29/24 at 9:56 am to lsufball19
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To put it simply, the fastest pitch ever recorded is 105.5. So I’m to believe that a pitcher 50 years ago, who didn’t have the benefit of modern training, threw 3 MPH faster than anyone ever has since. Not likely
It's fair to think that radar gun may have been out of calibration. Nothing is absolute but Ryan was built different. The man was still throwing in the high 90's into his mid-40's on modern guns. Most pitchers lose several mph in their late 20s and early 30s and this guy was still up there into his 40's.
There is way more evidence he could hit 105-108 mph back in the day than there is that he couldn't.
I wonder if Myth busters could prove anything.
Posted on 5/29/24 at 10:28 am to HotRock
quote:exactly. I wish I could have seen how fast I threw using these guns.
Now, they measure the ball closer to when the ball leaves the pitcher's hand. The ball can lose 3-6 mph in that distance depending on a lot of factors.
Just for reference, it is estimated that Nolan Ryan would have been close to 110 mph using today's radar guns.
Posted on 5/29/24 at 10:33 am to lsufball19
quote:Such an ignorant train of thought you have. As if human beings werent physically capable 50 years ago because they didnt have "modern training". The frick does that even mean
So I’m to believe that a pitcher 50 years ago, who didn’t have the benefit of modern training, threw 3 MPH faster than anyone ever has since. Not likely
Posted on 5/29/24 at 10:35 am to ChexMix
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Such an ignorant train of thought you have.
Im sure you believe Bo Jackson ran a 4.1 40 as well
Posted on 5/29/24 at 10:37 am to HotRock
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There is way more evidence he could hit 105-108 mph back in the day than there is that he couldn't.
I think Ryan was likely in the same ballpark as the hardest throwers of today, not 3 MPH faster
Posted on 5/29/24 at 10:46 am to lsufball19
quote:whatever you have to do to convince yourself bud
Im sure you believe Bo Jackson ran a 4.1 40 as wel
Posted on 5/29/24 at 10:51 am to lsufball19
quote:The entire point was that radar guns are different now. It used to be a fricking rarity to hit 100 mph. Now its college players popping 100+, MLB players popping 100+, its everywhere.
I think Ryan was likely in the same ballpark as the hardest throwers of today, not 3 MPH faster
You really think the human body has evolved in the past 50 years and that men couldnt sling the rock back in the day? Bob Feller was clocked at 98.6 in the 30s and 40s. Using todays tech, he would have been over 100 mph
Posted on 5/29/24 at 10:52 am to BigDickRick16
Thought this thread was going to be about a UGA football player.
Posted on 5/29/24 at 10:55 am to junkfunky
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you actually watched the games you would have heard the announcers talking about the difference in ESPN's reported speeds compared to the stadium's.
Yup! There was times Marcus Phillips hit 100mph on stadium radar gun, but on TV it showed 97-98. So when I see Sneed throw 101 on TV I can only assume it prolly said 102 or 103 at the stadium.
Posted on 5/29/24 at 10:57 am to BigDickRick16
101 .... that's it?
Posted on 5/29/24 at 10:57 am to ChexMix
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The entire point was that radar guns are different now. It used to be a fricking rarity to hit 100 mph. Now its college players popping 100+, MLB players popping 100+, its everywhere. You really think the human body has evolved in the past 50 years and that men couldnt sling the rock back in the day? Bob Feller was clocked at 98.6 in the 30s and 40s. Using todays tech, he would have been over 100 mph
Who to say the guns wasn’t off 30-40 years ago? Technology has evolved and now I would trust the guns of today than I would have 40 years ago. Players prolly throwing harder 40 years ago, but the technology wasn’t available to even track spin rate like now.
Posted on 5/29/24 at 11:22 am to BigDickRick16
quote:Its what the US military was using at the time. You can try and tap dance your way into thinking you are correct and I am wrong, but you'd be mistaken.
Who to say the guns wasn’t off 30-40 years ago?
Point is your 101 MPH in todays game would have been more like a 96-98 MPH pitch back in my day. Its just something you are going to have to come to grips with.
Posted on 5/29/24 at 12:05 pm to ChexMix
quote:It doesn't mean it's as good as technology 50 years later.
Its what the US military was using at the time. You can try and tap dance your way into thinking you are correct and I am wrong, but you'd be mistaken.
quote:This is so stupid
Point is your 101 MPH in todays game would have been more like a 96-98 MPH pitch back in my day. Its just something you are going to have to come to grips with.
Guys throw harder today for two reasons; (1) Modern strength training; and (2) they are trained on HOW to throw harder. Pitchers are learning how to throw harder now more than ever before. It's not as simple as using weighted balls in warm up lines. There is information available today that didn't exist 50 years ago.
Posted on 5/29/24 at 12:14 pm to PP7 for heisman
quote:depends on what your definition of "good" is. Radar guns picked up the balls speed at different intervals in the pitch back then compared to now. Good is irrelevant. both radar gun technologies worked as intended.
It doesn't mean it's as good as technology 50 years later.
quote:thats just dumb. For starters, both those points are the same. Secondly, people dont throw any harder today than they did back in the day. There is just a larger pool of players to choose from so the quantity of hard throwers has skewed your perception.
Guys throw harder today for two reasons; (1) Modern strength training; and (2) they are trained on HOW to throw harder.
Also, youre just a younger person who has little to no knowledge of the past. You only know what you have been exposed to. Try to curb that opinion that todays humans are just better versions of the past. Its not healthy
Posted on 5/29/24 at 12:20 pm to BigDickRick16
I thought this was going to be another Georgia football offseason thread
Posted on 5/29/24 at 12:21 pm to ChexMix
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The entire point was that radar guns are different now. It used to be a fricking rarity to hit 100 mph. Now its college players popping 100+, MLB players popping 100+, its everywhere. You really think the human body has evolved in the past 50 years and that men couldnt sling the rock back in the day? Bob Feller was clocked at 98.6 in the 30s and 40s. Using todays tech, he would have been over 100 mph
How many strawmen do you want to build in one post?
Posted on 5/29/24 at 12:25 pm to lsufball19
quote:thats not what strawman means you moron
How many strawmen do you want to build in one post?
I cannot believe you are this stupid. The reason people are throwing harder is because of the changes in how and WHEN the radar gun picks up the ball speed. PERIOD. Or do you think the ball maintains the same speed from release to plate?
fricking idiot
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