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re: Moorhead has lost 4 games at State as a 6.5 Favorite or more
Posted on 9/16/19 at 10:04 pm to The Winner
Posted on 9/16/19 at 10:04 pm to The Winner
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Moorhead has lost 4 games at State as a 6.5 Favorite or more
We wouldn't be talking about this if we hadn't had the suspensions. We talked about potential losses due to this, and I figured it would cost us a game or two. Well it just cost us this one. Plus some injuries to add to it, including starting qb.
Six missing against K-state that made the difference
Cam Dantzler starting CB
Lee Autry starting DT and best DT
Willie Gay starting "Will" LB
Marcus Murphy SS and ST
Nick Gibson #2 RB
Dareuan Parker starting LG
Posted on 9/16/19 at 10:07 pm to Reservoir dawg
Yeah, we also wouldn't be talking about it if you had scored more points than your opponent.
Posted on 9/16/19 at 10:33 pm to CrabInMyShoeMouth
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LSU worries about A&M,
They are freaking scared af of Jimbo.
Posted on 9/16/19 at 10:53 pm to Jjdoc
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Second, He has entered his second season and has won more than Mullen did.
What exactly do you mean by this?
In the 8 years prior to Mullen taking over, State was bowl eligible once, averaging 3.5 wins per year.
In the 9 years Mullen was there, he was 69-46 (average 7.6 wins), went to 8 bowl games, and had 5 seasons with 8+ wins.
Moorehead may or may not be able to maintain the program, but saying he’s “won more than Mullen” after one 8-5 season and last week’s loss to K-state is an odd take.
This post was edited on 9/16/19 at 10:54 pm
Posted on 9/16/19 at 11:00 pm to Reservoir dawg
Yeah those suspensions are hurting you on ST play too. Depth is not there.
Posted on 9/16/19 at 11:12 pm to lostinbr
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What exactly do you mean by this?
I mean Moorhead is ahead of where Mullen was at equal times in their stints at MS St.
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In the 8 years prior to Mullen taking over
Nothing to do with it... at all.
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In the 9 years Mullen was there, he was 69-46
And only won 5 in year 1. Moorhead won 8.
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Moorehead may or may not be able to maintain the program,
I would say maintaining isn't what's happening. It's improving. WRs are doing better. Hell even the freshmen are excelling on the defense. With the losses they had, the lack of recruiting Mullen did in his last 2 years...
But it's a fact, he is winning at a higher rate than Mullen did. In 2 years, Mullen won 14 games. Moorhead is at 10 and he is working with a decimated team.
Winnable games left:
UK
Auburn
UT
Ark
Ole Miss
Tamu
Abilene
Posted on 9/16/19 at 11:50 pm to Jjdoc
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- Dealing with Mullen screw ups because Mullen thought he was gone 1 year before and failed to recruit on the OL, WR, and most of all DL. And before you hand the praise of the #1 defense handed to him.. NO. They were not the #1 defense. Shoop did that. You have exactly 2 DTs that from the Mullen years on that team. Both of them are SRs. The rest are all Freshmen. 1 of those DTs is suspended for 8 games, the other beat out by a friggin FRESHMAN
Yeah Mullen’s the worst. How dare he bring life to your program and give you some of your best wins and players ever. What an a-hole.
Posted on 9/16/19 at 11:54 pm to Jjdoc
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Nothing to do with it... at all.
Everything to do with it, literally everything. Moorehead inherited a 10 win team with a returning senior QB and the #1 defense in the country, and won 8. Including a loss to Mullen head to head. Mullen inherited a sun belt roster. Prove me wrong.
This post was edited on 9/16/19 at 11:55 pm
Posted on 9/17/19 at 12:02 am to GatorBait24
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How dare he bring life to your program
I'm Pretty Sure he has never, and will never coach at Bama.
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Yeah Mullen’s the worst.
No he's not the worst, but he 100% left them in a messed up situation. He knew he was leaving and tried for 2 years. He took his eyes off recruiting. The proof is there for everybody to see.
Name me:
- 1 JR DT. Just one on their current roster.
- 1 SO DT recruited by Mullen.
- How many SR DTs?
I have already answered that, but you can double check me.
Like I said. It is what it is, but you can't blame Moorhead for the issues left by Mullen. ANd he is doing a great job with it.
Posted on 9/17/19 at 12:35 am to GatorBait24
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Everything to do with it, literally everything.
Literally it doesn't. What is evident is that you LITERALLY can't comprehend.
The guy stated that the 8 years before Mullen got there... That has nothing to do with the topic whatsoever.
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Moorehead inherited a 10 win team with a returning senior QB
No he didn't. Not in that system. Not even for Mullen.
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the #1 defense in the country,
They were not the #1 defense in the nation. Ms ST didn't even run the same base DEFENSE last year. That was all Shoop. Try again.
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Including a loss to Mullen head to head.
Due to a dropped pass by a Mullen WR and a QB who is not a serviceable passer.. also recruited by Mullen.
It took Moorhead 1 year to coach up the receivers to actually... receive the ball. Which is why under Mullen, not one single WR is at the next level.
So just in these 2 things, Moorhead improved Ms St at those 2 positions.
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Mullen inherited a sun belt roster. Prove me wrong.
Not that I care to prove you wrong, because I honestly don't give a shite, but since it's really easy:
- Chaney
- Dixon
- White
- McPhee
- Wright
- Sherrod
- Mitchell
- Cox
- Slay
- Banks
- Boyd
- Jackson
All From the Roster Mullen took over at Ms St. Al NFL Talent. That's just the NFL talent. That's not including people Like Relf. How many Sun belt Teams have that much talent on the Roster at the same time?
Posted on 9/17/19 at 12:40 am to TrueLefty
quote:You lost to fricking WYOMING, bitchboi. Kindly gtfo.
TrueLefty
Posted on 9/17/19 at 6:52 am to Jjdoc
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Not that I care to prove you wrong, because I honestly don't give a shite, but since it's really easy:
- Chaney
- Dixon
- White
- McPhee
- Wright
- Sherrod
- Mitchell
- Cox
- Slay
- Banks
- Boyd
- Jackson
All From the Roster Mullen took over at Ms St. Al NFL Talent. That's just the NFL talent
Umm more than half those players were FRESHMEN on Mullen's first State team. He didn't inherit those. You must be young and not really understand MSU football's place in the SEC before Mullen. MSU has the worst SEC win percentage. So don't act like MSU is anything other then what they were before the Wizard. What he Dan did in Starkville was magical.
Posted on 9/17/19 at 7:41 am to Reservoir dawg
Perhaps, they shouldn't have committed academic fraud.
Posted on 9/17/19 at 7:49 am to Jjdoc
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First of all, when it's that close the team picked to win loses about 35% of the time. It's nothing unusual. Second, He has entered his second season and has won more than Mullen did. 3rd, no coach can be faulted for the issues left to him and what has taken place. I get it. It's a message board and the knocking around of teams and posters... well, it's the rant. But most teams would not over come what took place: - Down 20 something players and alot of them starters. - Dealing with Mullen screw ups because Mullen thought he was gone 1 year before and failed to recruit on the OL, WR, and most of all DL. And before you hand the praise of the #1 defense handed to him.. NO. They were not the #1 defense. Shoop did that. You have exactly 2 DTs that from the Mullen years on that team. Both of them are SRs. The rest are all Freshmen. 1 of those DTs is suspended for 8 games, the other beat out by a friggin FRESHMAN.
JOMO.....Is that you?
Posted on 9/17/19 at 8:50 am to Jjdoc
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The guy stated that the 8 years before Mullen got there... That has nothing to do with the topic whatsoever.
Ok let me rephrase. Mullen took a team that was 4-8 the year before he started, and went 5-7 year one / 9-4 year two.
Moorhead took a team that was 9-4 the year before he started and went 8-5 year one, and will likely lose 5+ games this year.
I’m not saying Moorhead can’t be good, but you can’t ignore the fact that Mullen built a winning program there.
Posted on 9/17/19 at 8:54 am to lostinbr
Mullen did a great job, on the whole.
I'm not judging JoMo until he has his team, with his players. Yes, he inherited some good situations but he's been dealt some crap hands as well
I'm not judging JoMo until he has his team, with his players. Yes, he inherited some good situations but he's been dealt some crap hands as well
Posted on 9/17/19 at 8:56 am to GobyGator
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Umm
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more than half those players were FRESHMEN on Mullen's first State team.
I don't give a damn. He did not inherit a "sunbelt" roster.
- 5 wins
- 7 wins
- 8 wins
- 7 wins
One time he reached 9 wins with those guys.
Moorhead will do better
Posted on 9/17/19 at 9:01 am to lostinbr
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Ok let me rephrase. Mullen took a team that was 4-8 the year before he started, and went 5-7 year one / 9-4 year two.
With recruits that were NFL talent. Being loaded for 4 years is nice isn't it.
Moorhead had it on defense for 1 year. Then it was bare. Why? Because Mullen failed to recruit properly for 2 season in a row on defense.
There is a a huge difference in that.
And once again.. He won:
-5
-9
-7
-8
On that left talent.
Posted on 9/17/19 at 9:01 am to Jjdoc
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Literally it doesn't. What is evident is that you LITERALLY can't comprehend.
The guy stated that the 8 years before Mullen got there... That has nothing to do with the topic whatsoever.
You are purposefully being obtuse, aren't you?
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