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re: Miss State hiring Cody Kennedy, Arkansas OL Coach

Posted on 12/1/23 at 10:20 am to
Posted by Lord of the Hogs
Member since Sep 2023
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Posted on 12/1/23 at 10:20 am to
Players run a lot of programs now days. At least the ones that don’t recruit at elite levels.
Posted by Cdawg
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Member since Sep 2003
61474 posts
Posted on 12/1/23 at 10:37 am to
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It's almost like successful head coaches don't want to move to Starkville.

Wut?
Posted by Hawgeye
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Member since Jun 2009
32416 posts
Posted on 12/1/23 at 10:46 am to
Thank you sweet baby Jesus.

2023: 47 sacks allowed (126th in nation)
2022: 31 sacks allowed
2021: 30 sacks allowed
2020: 30 sacks allowed

34.5 sacks given up per year, average.

2023: 93 TFL's (126th in nation)
2022: 84 TFL's
2021: 88 TFL's
2020: 65 TFL's

82.5 TFL's given up per year, average.

Dude was horrible and got worse every single year. The OL room hated the guy. Could not recruit for shite. State will run him off within a year as well if they are smart.
This post was edited on 12/1/23 at 11:01 am
Posted by Shamoan
Member since Feb 2019
13063 posts
Posted on 12/1/23 at 10:58 am to
well, given state's mostly horrible history at OL, he should fit right in.
Posted by pankReb
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Member since Mar 2009
71561 posts
Posted on 12/1/23 at 11:05 am to
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Thank you sweet baby Jesus.

2023: 47 sacks allowed
2022: 31 sacks allowed
2021: 30 sacks allowed
2020: 30 sacks allowed

34.5 sacks given up per year, average.

2023: 93 TFL's
2022: 84 TFL's
2021: 88 TFL's
2020: 65 TFL's

82.5 TFL's given up per year, average.


Total offensive plays
2023: 842
2022: 993
2021: 932
2020: 712

This helps further your point. It's better to remove doubt by providing full context. Higher sack and TFL numbers can sometimes come from having more offensive snaps. Clearly, this isn't the case.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
100213 posts
Posted on 12/1/23 at 11:58 am to
Good thing he isn’t the OL coach and is only TEs
Posted by TheCheshireHog
Cashew Chicken Country
Member since Oct 2010
41406 posts
Posted on 12/1/23 at 12:07 pm to
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He seemed to do just fine under Briles and never a peep out of Hog fans.


Not even remotely true. He was the arguably the #1 person on our staff people wanted fired last year. We put up big yards sure but our OL development and recruitment under him was visibly subpar.
This post was edited on 12/1/23 at 12:09 pm
Posted by TheCheshireHog
Cashew Chicken Country
Member since Oct 2010
41406 posts
Posted on 12/1/23 at 12:11 pm to
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Good thing he isn’t the OL coach and is only TEs


Fascinating that our previously fired TE coach is going to be your OL coach and our newly fired OL coach is going to be your TE coach. The SEC loves their retreads when it comes to coaching.
Posted by Clark14
Earth
Member since Dec 2014
26079 posts
Posted on 12/1/23 at 12:29 pm to
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Fascinating that our previously fired TE coach is going to be your OL coach and our newly fired OL coach is going to be your TE coach.


The Pittman bump?…..haha
Posted by GreatPumpkin
Member since Mar 2022
2947 posts
Posted on 12/1/23 at 12:49 pm to
Well MSU already seems less dangerous than they might be
Posted by FriedEggBowL
MS
Member since Nov 2021
1414 posts
Posted on 12/1/23 at 12:49 pm to
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Fascinating that our previously fired TE coach is going to be your OL coach and our newly fired OL coach is going to be your TE coach. The SEC loves their retreads when it comes to coaching.


Maybe it's you and not them
Posted by TheCheshireHog
Cashew Chicken Country
Member since Oct 2010
41406 posts
Posted on 12/1/23 at 12:55 pm to
Our TE room got significantly better after we fired Cooper. I am willing to take the bet that our OL room will as well.

I get it though, every fan base wants to believe their new head coach makes all grand slam hires. We would be the same as you right now. However, I’m also aware that when the departing fanbase has almost unanimous excitement over a coach leaving it usually means that coach actually is bad at his job.
This post was edited on 12/1/23 at 12:55 pm
Posted by dchog
Pea Ridge
Member since Nov 2012
26706 posts
Posted on 12/1/23 at 1:00 pm to
Arkansas really missed Ricky Stromberg this year.

That OL was good at run blocking but really struggled with pass blocking.
Posted by Drewbie
tFlagship
Member since Jun 2012
64552 posts
Posted on 12/1/23 at 1:03 pm to
Might be one of the biggest fleeces of all time. I'm sorry State, you don't deserve this.
Posted by FriedEggBowL
MS
Member since Nov 2021
1414 posts
Posted on 12/1/23 at 1:19 pm to
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I'm sorry State, you don't deserve this.


oh shucks...don't worry about us. i'm sure we'll still manage to beat your arse, like every other year
Posted by Drewbie
tFlagship
Member since Jun 2012
64552 posts
Posted on 12/1/23 at 1:37 pm to
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like every other year
You'd almost think State has a winning record against someone the way you talk.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
100213 posts
Posted on 12/1/23 at 1:43 pm to
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You'd almost think State has a winning record against someone the way you talk.


We are 9-3 against y’all in the last 12 games.

Congrats, you have a whopping 3 game lead all time thanks to a 10 game win streak during Sherrill’s last few years and the Croom era.

Maybe you should rehire HDN, because he had our number for sure. He lost to us only once, by 1 point in 1998.
Posted by Drewbie
tFlagship
Member since Jun 2012
64552 posts
Posted on 12/1/23 at 1:46 pm to
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We are 9-3 against y’all in the last 12 games.
Along with the rest of the conference. Congrats.

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Congrats, you have a whopping 3 game lead all time thanks to a 10 game win streak during Sherrill’s last few years and the Croom era.
So obviously we're allowed to turn around and say the same thing about Bert and Chad, right? Or is that not how this works? Surely you wouldn't be hypocritical.
Posted by DownSouthJukin
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Member since Jan 2014
31327 posts
Posted on 12/1/23 at 1:49 pm to
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Probably the worst OL coach in the country


Only because Matt Luke is no longer coaching.
Posted by ReversePiggie
In non-Arkansas US
Member since Sep 2021
4229 posts
Posted on 12/1/23 at 1:52 pm to
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How much of both seasons was him vs OLine personnel?

There were some fundamental technique issues with the OL this year, which could only be tied to coaching. We've had less talented guys who were at least in the right spot when they got trucked.

Still confusing why Pittman didn't take a more active role in the OL development when it became apparent there were some real problems.
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