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re: Mike Shula was a better head coach at Alabama than Kalen DeBoer is now.
Posted on 1/1/25 at 11:11 am to LSU Grad Alabama Fan
Posted on 1/1/25 at 11:11 am to LSU Grad Alabama Fan
He couldn’t even gain a coordinator job until 2013 after Alabama fired him. Then he was back to being a position coach by 2020, and it was in this past bowl game that he got back to being a coordinator.
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Posted on 1/1/25 at 11:17 am to LSU Grad Alabama Fan
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What college head coaching jobs did he apply
Like an application?
Posted on 1/1/25 at 11:17 am to 3down10
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You were trying to claim it was because he had no interest in it,
I asked about college jobs. I don't know if he had interest or not in a head coaching job at the college level again. There's no evidence of it. Being an NFL head coach is a completely different type of job, so it's dumb to compare it to a college football head coach job. He also interviewed for the Dolphins job immediately after getting fired at Alabama, so I don't how interested he was, if he went just because of his dad's legacy there, or if just getting fired made him antsy about not having anything to do.
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while for some reason thinking coaches filled out applications like a cart returner at Walmart.
I already posted what I meant. It's stupid to keep rehashing it with this lame response.
This post was edited on 1/1/25 at 11:19 am
Posted on 1/1/25 at 11:30 am to LSU Grad Alabama Fan
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I asked about college jobs. I don't know if he had interest or not in a head coaching job at the college level again. There's no evidence of it. Being an NFL head coach is a completely different type of job, so it's dumb to compare it to a college football head coach job. He also interviewed for the Dolphins job immediately after getting fired at Alabama, so I don't how interested he was, if he went just because of his dad's legacy there, or if just getting fired made him antsy about not having anything to do.
He likely only got the interview because of his Dad's legacy. Which goes to highlight absolutely nobody wanted him as a HC. He took it because he is obviously still interested in coaching and has repeatedly taken the highest available job offered to him.
He's the OC for South Carolina right now.
He was an emergency hire for Alabama, otherwise he wouldn't have gotten that HC job either. We had to make a HC hire in April.
I'll always be thankful for Shula and him stepping into a situation nobody else would have remotely done. But this is a shitty thread/troll.
Posted on 1/1/25 at 11:36 am to LSU Grad Alabama Fan
This is an unfair comparison for Coach Deboer. I’ve been told that he was forced to play the worst quarterback in Bama football history. Shula wasn’t forced to play what has been called the worst quarterback in Bama football history. Bama board says Milroe was even worse than Spencer Pennington, and Milroe and his teammates held the program hostage. If these things are true, then we can’t judge Deboer accurately yet as a head coach
Edit: Also, going 9-4 with the worst quarterback in Bama history should be considered a great coaching job
Edit: Also, going 9-4 with the worst quarterback in Bama history should be considered a great coaching job
This post was edited on 1/1/25 at 11:45 am
Posted on 1/1/25 at 11:41 am to 3down10
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He likely only got the interview because of his Dad's legacy. Which goes to highlight absolutely nobody wanted him as a HC. He took it because he is obviously still interested in coaching and has repeatedly taken the highest available job offered to him.
That might have been his dream job since his dad coached there and was probably done out of courtesy for his dad. I don't think it's obvious that he was still interested in a head coaching job outside of a dream job.
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He's the OC for South Carolina right now.
Correct. It's his first job at the college level in 20 years. It seems like he came back once the college game became more like the NFL game with recruiting being more about paying players and his kids are now grown, so him being away from home isn't a big deal now.
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But this is a shitty thread/troll.
Wrong. I think Shula would of had this Bama team in the playoffs this year.
This post was edited on 1/1/25 at 11:43 am
Posted on 1/1/25 at 11:44 am to FoTownBam
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I’ve been told that he was forced to play the worst quarterback in Bama football history.
Nobody forced him to play Milroe. I think the fans would have respected him more if had benched Milroe and players quit over it.
Posted on 1/1/25 at 11:51 am to LSU Grad Alabama Fan
DeBoer’s success long term will be determined by his willingness to replace poor assistants. I remember that Shula reportedly refused to fire his coordinators when asked by the AD and that’s when they pulled the plug on him.
DeBoer needs to act quickly to correct the problems with his staff. If he doesn’t, he won’t be here long (and shouldn’t be).
DeBoer needs to act quickly to correct the problems with his staff. If he doesn’t, he won’t be here long (and shouldn’t be).
Posted on 1/1/25 at 11:56 am to LSU Grad Alabama Fan
Oh look, it's LSU Grad LSU Fan.
Posted on 1/1/25 at 11:57 am to uaslick
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DeBoer needs to act quickly to correct the problems with his staff. If he doesn’t, he won’t be here long (and shouldn’t be).
Which staff members do you think are a problem? I saw a well-called game yesterday.
Posted on 1/1/25 at 12:00 pm to captdalton
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Anyone who argues he was a good head coach is dumb. He was not ready. I appreciate he took the job because that was a rough time. But he was not a good coach. If he were someone else would have hired him as a head coach in the past 18 years. No one has
And add to the fact that the game is incredibly different 20 years later. Shula's style wouldn't understand 2024 CFB
Interesting take, but I think this is apples to orangutans
Posted on 1/1/25 at 12:02 pm to teamjackson
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And add to the fact that the game is incredibly different 20 years later. Shula's style wouldn't understand 2024 CFB
So his style at USC with their talent level wouldn't be close to being a playoff team?
Posted on 1/1/25 at 12:03 pm to LSU Grad Alabama Fan
Shula didn’t want to cheat. Didn’t fit the culture of the REC.
Posted on 1/1/25 at 12:03 pm to LSU Grad Alabama Fan
I don’t disagree. He certainly isn’t worse
Posted on 1/1/25 at 12:03 pm to captdalton
Remind me what Kalen DeBoer inherited - a team that made the national semifinals the year before vs. what Shula inherited, an unmitigated disaster (despite going 10-3, Bama the year before was hammered with NCAA sanctions Shula’s entire tenure and in turmoil).
Posted on 1/1/25 at 12:03 pm to LSU Grad Alabama Fan
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So his style at USC with their talent level wouldn't be close to being a playoff team?
Well, there's probably a reason he's an OC instead of a HC...
Posted on 1/1/25 at 12:08 pm to teamjackson
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Well, there's probably a reason he's an OC instead of a HC...
That's probably a narrow minded reason to think everyone has the same dreams.
Posted on 1/1/25 at 12:09 pm to imjustafatkid
The OC did not call a good game. We should have had 2-3 times more rushing attempts to the backs. That has been the story all year, most notably against Vanderbilt when they had twice the TOP that we had because of incompletions due to a qb who can’t see open receivers.
The DC finally put together a good game, but he has been lacking most of the year with poor coverage, especially on underneath routes and motion plays.
The DC finally put together a good game, but he has been lacking most of the year with poor coverage, especially on underneath routes and motion plays.
Posted on 1/1/25 at 12:12 pm to uaslick
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The OC did not call a good game.
Nonsense. Stopped reading here.
This post was edited on 1/1/25 at 12:12 pm
Posted on 1/1/25 at 12:12 pm to LSU Grad Alabama Fan
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How about giving a reason why it's dumb.
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would of
Stopped reading after that.
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