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re: Mike Bianchi: SEC Should Dump Mississippi Schools for UCF and USF
Posted on 6/7/14 at 1:28 pm to Henry Jones Jr
Posted on 6/7/14 at 1:28 pm to Henry Jones Jr
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The same thing as Arkansas except we have a tv market.
What market is that? Jackson is 96th which is the size of NWA at 100. Little Rock is top 50.
Jackson is declining in population while Little Rock and NWA are growing.
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Posted on 6/7/14 at 1:29 pm to SunHog
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What market is that?
Memphis which is 49th
This post was edited on 6/7/14 at 1:30 pm
Posted on 6/7/14 at 1:29 pm to undecided
if the SEC was going to add schools from the AAC there is no way in hell they would be either UCF or USF.
This dude clearly doesn't get that all future adds will be in new markets.
East Carolina and Cincy would be the only two schools from the AAC that have any inkling of a shot at getting in.
This dude clearly doesn't get that all future adds will be in new markets.
East Carolina and Cincy would be the only two schools from the AAC that have any inkling of a shot at getting in.
Posted on 6/7/14 at 1:30 pm to Henry Jones Jr
quote:I'm not calling anything a bad university. I just wouldn't call either of the Mississippi schools a significantly better academic institution than UCF or USF.
Ole Miss and State aren't bad universities. The only reason they get shite is because of their low admission standards. There's a reason a huge chunk of freshmen and sophomores flunk out at Ole Miss.
Posted on 6/7/14 at 1:30 pm to Dr RC
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Cincy
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SEC
Doesn't make sense.
Posted on 6/7/14 at 1:31 pm to Henry Jones Jr
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Memphis which is 49th
Since we are taking large population basis where lots of Alumni reside Arkansas will certainly claim Dallas #5 We even play games there. There was a reason the Dallas papers printed reports about Arkansas way before Texas A&M joined.
This post was edited on 6/7/14 at 1:32 pm
Posted on 6/7/14 at 1:31 pm to RollTide1987
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And no, I don't believe Ole Miss and Mississippi State should be kicked out of the conference, I'm simply arguing that their fans have an overinflated opinion of their worth to the conference.
It comes from most of us attending and graduating from our universities versus, well ......you know....
Posted on 6/7/14 at 1:31 pm to GatorsGators
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I just wouldn't call either of the Mississippi schools a significantly better academic institution than UCF or USF.
Depends on what you're talking about. Ole Miss has better Accounting and law schools. State has one of the top engineering programs in the country.
Posted on 6/7/14 at 1:31 pm to SwayzeBalla
This is a dumb article, SEC would have better options and the schools make better sense in other conferences. Bianchi is a clown who crapped all over UCF for the last few years. Now that they finally had a great season he's all over them trying to make headlines. There is some high quality SEC groupthink in here though.
Is it? What does it say that Mississippi State needs 100 extra years of a football program to have 7 more bowl wins?
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Without looking it up, I'm pretty sure State has won more bowl games than USF and UCF have played in. That's saying something.
Is it? What does it say that Mississippi State needs 100 extra years of a football program to have 7 more bowl wins?
Posted on 6/7/14 at 1:35 pm to SunHog
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Since we are taking large population basis where lots of Alumni reside Arkansas will certainly claim Dallas #5
If you don't consider Memphis an Ole Miss market, then I don't know what to tell you. Oxford is 50 or so miles from Memphis, a ton of our students and fans grow up there and a good chunk of our graduates move there. Not to mention Memphis' largest company (FedEx) has some Ole Miss fans/grads running it.
This post was edited on 6/7/14 at 1:38 pm
Posted on 6/7/14 at 1:36 pm to GatorsGators
Both OM and State have done an awful lot in their respective fields of research. Even compared to some other SEC institutions.
Posted on 6/7/14 at 1:42 pm to Henry Jones Jr
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Cincy
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SEC
Doesn't make sense.
A&M, Arkansas, and Mizzou are now in the SEC brah.
None are from the southeast or the Deep South.
Anyway, the point of what I said was is that UCF and USF have zero chance of getting into the SEC b/c of their location.
The only two schools in the AAC (where UCF and USF reside) are East Carolina and Cincy b/c they are the only two in contiguous states that would open up worthwhile markets in North Carolina and Ohio.
Dollars to donuts if the Big10 ever gets into SEC territory w/Georgia Tech the SEC is going to heavily consider (and likely pull the trigger on) going into Ohio.
This post was edited on 6/7/14 at 1:45 pm
Posted on 6/7/14 at 1:44 pm to Henry Jones Jr
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If you don't consider Memphis an Ole Miss market, then I don't know what to tell you. Oxford is 50 or so miles from Memphis, a ton of our students and fans grow up there and a good chunk of our graduates move there. Not to mention Memphis' largest company (FedEx) has a lot of Ole Miss fans/grads running it.
There are more Arkansas alumni in Dallas than Ole Miss graduates in Memphis. Twenty five percent (25%) of Arkansas Freshmen are from DFW. Plus, it's by far a bigger market for work and tons of old rivalries. Why do you think we have TCU, Texas Tech and Texas lined up?
Let's recap.
Arkansas $100 million
2 (3) Top 100 markets and nice chunk of Dallas (to which the Aggies, TCU, SMU and Horns love to watch the Hogs lose)
Ole Miss $62 million
1 (2) Top 100 Markets with a nice chunk of Memphis (to which other SEC schools tune in to watch y'all lose)
It's not hard to see which is a much bigger market and the revenue streams reflect the answer.
Arkansas has the second most skyboxes in the SEC just behind Alabama with 76k. What do you think happens when we add another 25 and become #1 again? We are already at the $100 million mark with horrible football seasons.
Posted on 6/7/14 at 1:48 pm to Dr RC
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None are from the southeast or the Deep South.
The entire part of east and south Arkansas are laughing at you. There is a big ole River that splits Arkansas and Mississippi apart and have the exact same history.
The rest of the state is Mid-South and Upper south just like Tennessee. Not a bit of difference. The differences start as soon as you hit Oklahoma and North of the Ozark's in Missouri.
Missouri is as southern as Kentucky. Arkansas is as Southern as Tennessee (Minus the deep south parts of Arkansas) the rest is the deep south.
This post was edited on 6/7/14 at 1:53 pm
Posted on 6/7/14 at 1:51 pm to parkjas2001
They would have a hard time kicking us out.. Way too many lawyer's in Oxford that would take them to court. MSU they would leave for money for sure though.
Posted on 6/7/14 at 1:54 pm to SunHog
your history can EAD
average Joe Shmoe doesnt consider Arkansas the Deep South or part of the southeastern USofA.
and guess what?
they're right, you arent.
never mind that wasnt the point so go ahead and get your overly sensitive head out of your fat hairy arse.
This post was edited on 6/7/14 at 1:56 pm
Posted on 6/7/14 at 1:56 pm to Dr RC
Arkansas really is more like Oklahoma or Kansas..
Posted on 6/7/14 at 1:57 pm to Fireman17
All of the attorneys in the world (shudder) are worthless, if no laws have been breached.
I have no idea what legally binds Ole Miss and MSU to the SEC; but I can't imagine the league would attempt to rid itself of em under illegal circumstances.
(See Baylor President/former US Solicitor General/Independent Counsel in Clinton impeachment trial, Ken Starr, attempting to sue Texas A&M for going to the SEC)
Moot point anyway--and a bunch of red & blue ruffled feathers--over one man's article.
I have no idea what legally binds Ole Miss and MSU to the SEC; but I can't imagine the league would attempt to rid itself of em under illegal circumstances.
(See Baylor President/former US Solicitor General/Independent Counsel in Clinton impeachment trial, Ken Starr, attempting to sue Texas A&M for going to the SEC)
Moot point anyway--and a bunch of red & blue ruffled feathers--over one man's article.
This post was edited on 6/7/14 at 2:02 pm
Posted on 6/7/14 at 1:58 pm to undecided
So, now he wants 3 teams from the same state in conference? With their geographic locations, WHAT does the East look like now?
UGA
USC
UT
Vandy
UF
USF
UCF
Kentucky?
Aub.
Ala.
LSU
Mizz.
Ark.
TA&M
UGA
USC
UT
Vandy
UF
USF
UCF
Kentucky?
Aub.
Ala.
LSU
Mizz.
Ark.
TA&M
This post was edited on 6/7/14 at 2:12 pm
Posted on 6/7/14 at 1:59 pm to SunHog
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If you don't consider Memphis an Ole Miss market, then I don't know what to tell you. Oxford is 50 or so miles from Memphis, a ton of our students and fans grow up there and a good chunk of our graduates move there. Not to mention Memphis' largest company (FedEx) has a lot of Ole Miss fans/grads running it.
There are more Arkansas alumni in Dallas than Ole Miss graduates in Memphis. Twenty five percent (25%) of Arkansas Freshmen are from DFW. Plus, it's by far a bigger market for work and tons of old rivalries. Why do you think we have TCU, Texas Tech and Texas lined up?
Let's recap.
Arkansas $100 million
2 (3) Top 100 markets and nice chunk of Dallas (to which the Aggies, TCU, SMU and Horns love to watch the Hogs lose)
Ole Miss $62 million
1 (2) Top 100 Markets with a nice chunk of Memphis (to which other SEC schools tune in to watch y'all lose)
It's not hard to see which is a much bigger market and the revenue streams reflect the answer.
Arkansas has the second most skyboxes in the SEC just behind Alabama with 76k. What do you think happens when we add another 25 and become #1 again? We are already at the $100 million mark with horrible football seasons.
Let us know who wins this so you can debate State for last place.
This post was edited on 6/7/14 at 2:00 pm
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