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re: Merry Christmas! Jesus died for our sins

Posted on 12/25/21 at 2:29 pm to
Posted by bamameister
Right here, right now
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Posted on 12/25/21 at 2:29 pm to
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No it doesn't. Not in the way you are insinuating. You are taking scripture out of context. I am familiar with the passage you are referring to (I think) and you are taking it way out of context.



Jesus time and again condemned the religious leaders because they were teaching "their own traditions rather than Gods." They were giving the people bits and pieces of the Mosiac Law and then they would water it down with their own traditions of choice. They hated him for the public corrections they got and eventually killed him because of it.


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I don't care what you address going forward. I was merely curious if Christianity had some special focus from you for some reason. It appears as if it does.


That's because you just haven't caught on yet. I'm not anti-God, I'm anti-religion. Just like Jesus.

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Really> How were people killed in the first and second world war in the name of Christianity? And don't even try to pass of Hitler as being Christian.



The dude certainly professed it and that's all we are talking about with professed Christians today. He was a Catholic in good standings and he would have never pulled off the second World War without the blessings of the Catholic Church. In fact, history strongly suggests that war would pretty much be impossible down through man's existence without first commanding the moral high ground. Politicians and religious leaders have always known that recipe. That takes GOD. Any god.

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That passage isn't talking about what people think of themselves or what others think of Christians. it is talking about how we should help others, minister to others, witness to others.



A person's Christian ministry is part of their "fruits."


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Are you saying you are a believer? You have already said you are not when you called Christianity "Mythology", so I am only taking you at your word.




Christmas is 'mythology." Not Biblical, not Christian, Pagan actually. Christianity that is poorly executed is why Christmas exists.
Posted by ReversePiggie
In non-Arkansas US
Member since Sep 2021
4229 posts
Posted on 12/25/21 at 2:30 pm to
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Why do you feel compelled to try to ridicule and make fun of others beliefs?

Sure, I'll answer most anything.

How/ where did I ridicule anyone's beliefs? Simply stated what I think, but didn't claim anyone was stupid for not agreeing. If that's how it was interpreted, my apologies.

My premise is mankind as a whole got it wrong, not just Christians. Having spent several decades believing and several more searching, all I know is I don't know the answers.

Merry Christmas
Posted by mbogo
Member since Oct 2012
2799 posts
Posted on 12/25/21 at 2:31 pm to
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This is the kind of thing that will ensure Christianity will probably be irrelevant as a global religion within 100 years and why I left it nearly two decades ago. Thank you for the reminder.



Voltaire would advise against such predictions.
What did you do to become a Christian before you left?
This post was edited on 12/25/21 at 2:35 pm
Posted by Notrub14
New York City
Member since Dec 2018
965 posts
Posted on 12/25/21 at 2:31 pm to
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Jesus time and again condemned the religious leaders because they were teaching "their own traditions rather than Gods." They were giving the people bits and pieces of the Mosiac Law and then they would water it down with their own traditions of choice. They hated him for the public corrections they got and eventually killed him because of it.


quote:
I don't care what you address going forward. I was merely curious if Christianity had some special focus from you for some reason. It appears as if it does.


That's because you just haven't caught on yet. I'm not anti-God, I'm anti-religion. Just like Jesus.

quote:
Really> How were people killed in the first and second world war in the name of Christianity? And don't even try to pass of Hitler as being Christian.


The dude certainly professed it and that's all we are talking about with professed Christians today. He was a Catholic in good standings and he would have never pulled off the second World War without the blessings of the Catholic Church. In fact, history strongly suggests that war would pretty much be impossible down through man's existence without first commanding the moral high ground. Politicians and religious leaders have always known that recipe. That takes GOD. Any god.

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That passage isn't talking about what people think of themselves or what others think of Christians. it is talking about how we should help others, minister to others, witness to others.


A person's Christian ministry is part of their "fruits."


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Are you saying you are a believer? You have already said you are not when you called Christianity "Mythology", so I am only taking you at your word.



Christmas is 'mythology." Not Biblical, not Christian, Pagan actually. Christianity that is poorly executed is why Christmas exists.


You're a fricking dumbass. Please stop.
Posted by BC_t_AD
Alabama
Member since Apr 2021
109 posts
Posted on 12/25/21 at 2:33 pm to
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Will this obviously shiny hook catch that many atheists?


If by shiny hook you mean the gospel, and by catch atheist you mean bring them to the knowledge of our Lord and savior Jesus Christ. Then yes I pray it does.

Did you know some of the apostles were actually fishermen? You can’t make this up lol

Posted by FourThreeForty
Member since May 2013
17290 posts
Posted on 12/25/21 at 2:33 pm to
The easiest way to troll this board is to tell them their god doesn’t exist and frick Donald Trump


Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
53509 posts
Posted on 12/25/21 at 2:35 pm to
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You can’t make this up lol


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Merry Christmas! Jesus died for our sins


Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
36777 posts
Posted on 12/25/21 at 2:39 pm to
The only thing that is saved when the truth dies is the lie.

Posted by bamameister
Right here, right now
Member since May 2016
17117 posts
Posted on 12/25/21 at 2:50 pm to
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You're a fricking dumbass.


Thanks for reading Einstein. That must have hurt.
Posted by Notrub14
New York City
Member since Dec 2018
965 posts
Posted on 12/25/21 at 2:55 pm to
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Thanks for reading Einstein. That must have hurt.


You need to go read some history before posting on any of these topics again. Please let me know if you need book recommendations.
Posted by Pastor Mike
Florida
Member since Dec 2020
6641 posts
Posted on 12/25/21 at 3:01 pm to
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My source is Raymond Brown


If your source is Raymond Brown, I suggest you go higher up the chain
Posted by Notrub14
New York City
Member since Dec 2018
965 posts
Posted on 12/25/21 at 3:14 pm to
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If your source is Raymond Brown, I suggest you go higher up the chain


Not sure what you're getting at. Who's higher up the chain? The Pope? God?
Posted by AgsNguyening
USA
Member since Jul 2014
2798 posts
Posted on 12/25/21 at 3:16 pm to
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If your source is Raymond Brown, I suggest you go higher up the chain


Ah yes, the RINO defense.
Posted by Notrub14
New York City
Member since Dec 2018
965 posts
Posted on 12/25/21 at 3:20 pm to
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Ah yes, the RINO defense.


As you indicated earlier in the thread, it's astonishing how little most Christians know about the Bible.
Posted by Pastor Mike
Florida
Member since Dec 2020
6641 posts
Posted on 12/25/21 at 3:22 pm to
I am getting at the fact that Raymond Brown is someone liberals like to quote - WHO - being a man - is just as subject to error as any other man. His opinion is no better than many of his contemporaries who denounced many of his views. I, frankly, am not trying to change your opinion about God and the Birth of His Son = but to cling to a liberal catholic scholar who denies the inspiration of the scripture as your authority for rejecting the scripture - is, rather, well, WEAK
This post was edited on 12/25/21 at 3:23 pm
Posted by Pastor Mike
Florida
Member since Dec 2020
6641 posts
Posted on 12/25/21 at 3:25 pm to
And just so you understand - I don't care what a single catholic priest has to say about the Bible, whether true or not, when he bows and kissing the ring of a MAN who has covered up pedophilia in the church while claiming to speak 'ex cathedra'
Posted by AgsNguyening
USA
Member since Jul 2014
2798 posts
Posted on 12/25/21 at 3:25 pm to
This as your starting point, rather than the passive aggressive “go higher up the chain” response as though you are the authority, would have been the better approach.
Posted by Pastor Mike
Florida
Member since Dec 2020
6641 posts
Posted on 12/25/21 at 3:27 pm to
Why would it have been the better approach? You are clearly convinced in your mind that you are right and others are wrong - which is the very thing you claim to hate about those from the other view. Sometimes a little sarcasm is a relief-valve for what I could say and choose not to
Posted by AgsNguyening
USA
Member since Jul 2014
2798 posts
Posted on 12/25/21 at 3:29 pm to
I explained why.

Also, I’m not so dogmatic as to think I am right on almost anything.
Posted by X
Member since Jun 2010
3516 posts
Posted on 12/25/21 at 3:30 pm to
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The easiest way to troll this board is to tell them their god doesn’t exist and frick Donald Trump


The power of groupthink is remarkable and quite scary. It's got all of these people believing in the invisible boogie man in the sky.
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