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re: Matt Zenitz reporting Sark to interview with Auburn Sunday
Posted on 12/18/20 at 2:39 pm to ipodking
Posted on 12/18/20 at 2:39 pm to ipodking
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Why are Bama fans melting? Surely y’all didn’t think Sark would be around for a long time.
I don't think many of us care that much if he is the OC next year. We are just sick of going into every playoff with key coordinators having 90% of their mental energy focused on their next job.
Frankly I don't see how Sark could continue as Bama's OC going into the playoffs if he were to accept the AU job. It is a complete conflict of interest for both teams. Another national title for Alabama is a negative for AU and his future job in every single way, unlike if he were taking the job at Virginia Tech.
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Posted on 12/18/20 at 2:40 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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Sark is a fantastic recruiter
Everybody is a great recruiter with the A on their chest. Everybody is a greet coordinator when you have the talent advantage in every single game.
47-35 as a HC and lost his job in disgrace
Yawn
Posted on 12/18/20 at 2:48 pm to JesusQuintana
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47-35 as a HC and lost his job in disgrace
Still light years better than 9-36
Posted on 12/18/20 at 2:49 pm to JesusQuintana
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Everybody is a great recruiter with the A on their chest.
Sark was a fantastic recruiter at Washington. Coming off a literal winless season.
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Everybody is a greet coordinator when you have the talent advantage in every single game.
Yea, that's pretty clearly not true. At all.
This post was edited on 12/18/20 at 2:51 pm
Posted on 12/18/20 at 2:50 pm to Leto II
That’s true
Posted on 12/18/20 at 2:54 pm to JesusQuintana
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Everybody is a great recruiter with the A on their chest.
Not a Hawthorne fan I see.
Posted on 12/18/20 at 2:54 pm to Hback
At some point, the entire SEC coaching roster will be Saban and former Saban assistants.
Posted on 12/18/20 at 2:59 pm to Hback
Disappointing to hear. I mean, we have our two biggest traditional rivals poaching Saban coordinators in desperate attempts to get just a fraction of Bama's success. Hopefully if the Barn gets Sark that it goes as well as Pruett has for Tennessee.
Posted on 12/18/20 at 3:01 pm to Leto II
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Drunk coaching is so gunna work out,lol
Worked well for Bear Bryant and Pat Dye
I don't think Sarkisian is going to fall off that wagon, but college football, at least in part due to the wwww, is very different than when Bryant and Dye coached. That, plus, I don't think Bryant and Dye were ever found to be visibly and clearly drunk on the sideline as I remember reading Sarkisian was a time or two.
This post was edited on 12/18/20 at 3:04 pm
Posted on 12/18/20 at 3:03 pm to Hback
Do not like that.
Posted on 12/18/20 at 3:05 pm to WilliamTaylor21
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WilliamTaylor21
Matt Zenitz reporting Sark to interview with Auburn Sunday
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Why don’t they try to get Tony Elliot? Nobody ever tries to take away from Dabo
People actually like working for Dabo. That’s why they don’t use him like a cheap whore.
Billy T still has them sour grapes over Saban ditching the bayou for the NFL
Posted on 12/18/20 at 3:06 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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I'd be ok with him being the next guy when Saban leaves. I'm not sure the technical, legalities of head coach in waiting are allowed anymore, so I'm not sure how all that would work. If I remember correctly being named "coach in waiting" went away because it limited recruiting.
But I'd be fine with him being the next guy.
the semantics of a contract could be worked around. I know a lot of Alabama fans are against the coach in waiting situation, by whatever name, but it would help alleviate the negative recruiting you know will happen as Saban grows older.
Posted on 12/18/20 at 3:10 pm to SummerOfGeorge
quote:Last time I saw his name he was in trouble for beating his old lady iirc.
James Willis
Posted on 12/18/20 at 3:11 pm to MillerLiteTime
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Frankly I don't see how Sark could continue as Bama's OC going into the playoffs if he were to accept the AU job.
of course he could. The thing that made it so difficult was recruiting for the new school while preparing for playoffs. The new signing period pretty much alleviated that.
If I remember correctly Kirby Smart insisted on staying at Alabama through the national title game when he was interfiewed at Auburn in 2012.
Posted on 12/18/20 at 3:17 pm to JesusQuintana
I hate to say it, but I think too many people are giving Sark an easy benefit of the doubt for his exit at USC 5 years ago by blaming it purely on alcoholism. There seems to be an assumption that if he was fired over alcohol and he doesn't drink anymore, then that whole disaster at USC is an irrelevant part of his past.
Yes, alcohol was the obvious cause of his firing, but I think people are forgetting just how much of an extreme outlier his behavior was in the modern era of college and NFL coaching. I'm sure there are tons of coaches out there with alcohol problems, even to the point of being high functioning alcoholics. But I can't think of a single other, publicly known instance in modern times where the HC of a major organization was obviously drunk at a practice or especially at a game on live tv. It is wildly undisciplined behavior that I'm not so sure can be 100% explained by having a disease for which he is presumably cured. There are likely other emotional forces at play with someone who allows alcohol to have that level of affect on them, and I don't know that those can be cured by simply not drinking anymore.
The AU job will have even more pressure and stress than the USC job had. He has been a successful coordinator during his recovery at Alabama, but that is within a very structured organization with a strong figure keeping an eye on him. Being the HC where it is your job to absorb the stress of the whole organization and keep an eye on everyone else within it is a whole different ordeal. I would want to see him eased back into that role at a university with a lot less pressure than Auburn. And I mean that with nothing but love and best wishes for Sark.
Yes, alcohol was the obvious cause of his firing, but I think people are forgetting just how much of an extreme outlier his behavior was in the modern era of college and NFL coaching. I'm sure there are tons of coaches out there with alcohol problems, even to the point of being high functioning alcoholics. But I can't think of a single other, publicly known instance in modern times where the HC of a major organization was obviously drunk at a practice or especially at a game on live tv. It is wildly undisciplined behavior that I'm not so sure can be 100% explained by having a disease for which he is presumably cured. There are likely other emotional forces at play with someone who allows alcohol to have that level of affect on them, and I don't know that those can be cured by simply not drinking anymore.
The AU job will have even more pressure and stress than the USC job had. He has been a successful coordinator during his recovery at Alabama, but that is within a very structured organization with a strong figure keeping an eye on him. Being the HC where it is your job to absorb the stress of the whole organization and keep an eye on everyone else within it is a whole different ordeal. I would want to see him eased back into that role at a university with a lot less pressure than Auburn. And I mean that with nothing but love and best wishes for Sark.
Posted on 12/18/20 at 3:20 pm to BLG
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If I remember correctly Kirby Smart insisted on staying at Alabama through the national title game when he was interfiewed at Auburn in 2012.
And if I remember correctly, that was an issue for Auburn.
Posted on 12/18/20 at 3:26 pm to MillerLiteTime
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I would want to see him eased back into that role at a university with a lot less pressure than Auburn. And I mean that with nothing but love and best wishes for Sark.
That's very christian of you to look out for sark like that.
Posted on 12/18/20 at 3:27 pm to MillerLiteTime
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And if I remember correctly, that was an issue for Auburn.
so Smart stayed for the title game (another national title) Auburn hired Malzhan and here they are again
This post was edited on 12/18/20 at 3:31 pm
Posted on 12/18/20 at 3:38 pm to BLG
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so Smart stayed for the title game (another national title) Auburn hired Malzhan and here they are again
That is sort of my point. I can't see how this could possibly work out using the traditional model of the OC staying on full time until the playoffs are over and then joining the new team afterwards. Not when the two teams are Alabama and Auburn. I think Auburn would insist upon Sark immediately joining AU. They have a very poor early signing class with a lot of open spots left so time is of the essence. Why would Auburn let Sark stay on at Alabama to help their biggest rival win a national title? Sark doesn't have enough clout to demand to keep coaching the playoffs.
Posted on 12/18/20 at 3:42 pm to BLG
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so Smart stayed for the title game (another national title) Auburn hired Malzhan and here they are again
I think there was more to it than just that.
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