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Posted on 5/22/19 at 1:48 am to RD Dawg
Posted on 5/22/19 at 1:48 am to RD Dawg
Mock Drafts do not mean anything.
You can get a Jake Fromm like QB in the 4th or 5th round.
Just saying.
There is nothing that jumps out at you.
He doesn't carry the team
Average arm
Average athleticism
Doesn't change plays at LOS
He is a game manager at best. NFL teams are going away from QBs like this.
I feel sorry for the franchise that wastes a first round pick on him.
You can get a Jake Fromm like QB in the 4th or 5th round.
Just saying.
There is nothing that jumps out at you.
He doesn't carry the team
Average arm
Average athleticism
Doesn't change plays at LOS
He is a game manager at best. NFL teams are going away from QBs like this.
I feel sorry for the franchise that wastes a first round pick on him.
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Posted on 5/22/19 at 1:51 am to Montgomery Hill
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You can get a Jake Fromm like QB in the 4th or 5th round.
Fromm is a first round QB. I could see Tuba going in the 3-5 round range, but not Fromm.
Posted on 5/22/19 at 1:53 am to WilliamTaylor21
From a talent standpoint I think Drew Lock is a lot better than Fromm and he wasn't a first round pick.
Stidham from a talent standpoint is equal to Fromm.
That is why he went to NE. There was value in his pick
There is no value picking Fromm in the first round.
You can get comparable QBs much later usually.
Stidham from a talent standpoint is equal to Fromm.
That is why he went to NE. There was value in his pick
There is no value picking Fromm in the first round.
You can get comparable QBs much later usually.
Posted on 5/22/19 at 2:07 am to Montgomery Hill
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From a talent standpoint I think Drew Lock is a lot better than Fromm and he wasn't a first round pick
Fromm has much decision making skills and is far more accurate.Fromm had almost the exact same completion percentage his freshman year as Lock did as a senior.
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Stidham from a talent standpoint is equal to Fromm
Beyond laughable
Posted on 5/22/19 at 2:08 am to Montgomery Hill
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You can get a Jake Fromm like QB in the 4th or 5th round.
Just saying.
No you can't...jus saying
Posted on 5/22/19 at 2:11 am to RD Dawg
Georgia runs the ball. When they can't run the ball they lose.
It is either because of Fromm or is was because of Jim Chaney
Jim Chaney didn't even trust Fromm to drop back and throw 45 times a game.
I am interested in seeing if Fromm can carry a team.
Lock did at Mizzou.
Stidham won the SEC West when he had an OLine and Running Game.
It is either because of Fromm or is was because of Jim Chaney
Jim Chaney didn't even trust Fromm to drop back and throw 45 times a game.
I am interested in seeing if Fromm can carry a team.
Lock did at Mizzou.
Stidham won the SEC West when he had an OLine and Running Game.
Posted on 5/22/19 at 2:21 am to Montgomery Hill
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Georgia runs the ball. When they can't run the ball they lose.
Did ya watch the OU game in '18 or UF game last year?
How bout watch game see how many 3rd and long obvious passing situations Chaney put Fromm in and he still made completions and first downs.
Put em in an offense like Bama or OU and he would be just as effective.
3rd best QBR in the country in '18 with an OC that continually tried to establish the run no matter what the circumstances.
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Posted on 5/22/19 at 2:25 am to RD Dawg
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No you can't...jus saying
I think Fromm stays. Doesn't look like Georgia is wanting to push him out
Best case scenario would be if the Dallas Cowboys move on from Dak Prescott.
Fromm has a better arm but isn't as athletic.
But that would be as a third round pick.
You can find future 10 year starters in the first and second round.
Anything after the third you draft guys like Fromm. Fromm will struggle if he went to a team without much offensive talent.
Difference at UGA is that they usually have better players tban everyone else.
NFL is not like that. A first round QB especially in the Top 10 is drafted because he makes the team better
Posted on 5/22/19 at 2:35 am to RD Dawg
Look at Fromm's numbers when Georgia didn't put up huge rushing yards
Texas and LSU
Those two games tell me a lot more than Jake Fromm playing a FCS school or Tennessee
Texas and LSU
Those two games tell me a lot more than Jake Fromm playing a FCS school or Tennessee
Posted on 5/22/19 at 3:37 am to Montgomery Hill
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Fromm will struggle if he went to a team without much offensive talent
True for most every Qb
Posted on 5/22/19 at 3:50 am to djsdawg
Yea I mean literally nobody except like the top 5 most talented QBs in the world can carry a team by themselves
Posted on 5/22/19 at 5:39 am to Montgomery Hill
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Those two games tell me a lot more than Jake Fromm playing a FCS school or Tennessee
The Texas game shouldnt tell you much of anything about UGA players.
Posted on 5/22/19 at 8:56 am to Terrific Tales
At this point, lists like this are a waste of time. There's so many variables that haven't come into play yet that will affect how the draft goes.
- Whether or not a player leaves to enter the draft.
- Injuries or a down year that changes opinions of a player's abilities
- Where a team is located in the draft and their needs going into the draft
- Free agency
Daniel Jones went in the top 10 because the only team that would've considered drafting him that high had a pick in the top 10. If the Giants weren't arse, he wouldn't have been a top 10 pick.
- Whether or not a player leaves to enter the draft.
- Injuries or a down year that changes opinions of a player's abilities
- Where a team is located in the draft and their needs going into the draft
- Free agency
Daniel Jones went in the top 10 because the only team that would've considered drafting him that high had a pick in the top 10. If the Giants weren't arse, he wouldn't have been a top 10 pick.
This post was edited on 5/22/19 at 8:57 am
Posted on 5/22/19 at 10:12 am to Montgomery Hill
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He doesn't carry the team
Average arm
Average athleticism
Doesn't change plays at LOS
He does change plays at the LOS - he's probably the most cerebral / NFL ready QB in this years class but I would agree that from an NFL standpoint he wont blow anyone away with arm strength / athleticism. He does have the best "touch" of all QBs in college right now though and makes some throws that are pretty ridiculous. Regardless, some team will fall in love with him and think he's the next Brady / Manning type and pick him up in the top 15. I'm not sure how well he'll do in the pros as there are times in games where he tends to disappear and miss throws that he should make but he has only played 2 years and is a true Jr so maybe that improves.
This post was edited on 5/22/19 at 10:14 am
Posted on 5/22/19 at 10:33 am to Fats
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in the pros as there are times in games where he tends to disappear
Happens to every QB that's ever played a snap of P5 FB.
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Regardless, some team will fall in love with him and think he's the next Brady / Manning
Not sure that many think that
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he has only played 2 years and is a true Jr so maybe that improves
He has 2 of the 3 highest QBR's in UGA history...Aarron Murray's senior year (5th year)is the only season better.
Posted on 5/22/19 at 12:54 pm to Terrific Tales
I don't understand why LSU fans are so convinced that a guy with 12 career solo tackles and 3 sacks coming off an ACL injury is going to be a top 10 pick next year.
Posted on 5/22/19 at 12:59 pm to tmjones2
Just remember this. K’Lavon Chaisson is about to light the world up. The reason is because inlimited playing time we have seen what he is capable of. He gave Miami fits last year and only played like half the game
Posted on 5/22/19 at 1:02 pm to djsdawg
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The Texas game shouldnt tell you much of anything about UGA players.
It should.
It does for the NFL.
I am not totally blaming Fromm as it could have been Chaney.
But teams who usually pick in the Top 10 have a lot of weaknesses. They are looking for a Baker Mayfield/Patrick Mahomes type QB.
QBs that can carry a team. Fromm is what you refer to as a game manager.
The NFL for the most part is going away from these QBs.
Not saying Fromm can't make the needed throws and take over games with his arm but UGA hasn't let him.
There are a lot of stupid NFL teams out there. You are correct.
Doesn't change the fact that Fromm isn't a Top 10/15 pick until he can win games by himself.
This post was edited on 5/22/19 at 1:05 pm
Posted on 5/22/19 at 1:03 pm to RD Dawg
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I've linked multiple mock drafts
Which again, are utterly worthless this far out. You seem to not be able to grasp this.
This post was edited on 5/22/19 at 1:03 pm
Posted on 5/22/19 at 1:07 pm to thunderbird1100
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Which again, are utterly worthless this far out. You seem to not be able to grasp this.
And you don't seem to grasp that multiple NFL scouts think he has 1st round talent...my entire point.
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