re: Matt Leinart settles debate of best team ever

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Potential to make top 10 all time, but thanks to covid scheduling/sick players/opt outs, we will never know.

Doesn’t belong on any list, ever, and is a *title* that is already long forgotten. Full fledge asterisk year.

Honestly the most memorable player from that team is Henry Ruggs for obvious reasons.

Or was he even on that team? Idk

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Gtfo. You clearly don’t watch football. LSU beat a record number of ranked teams, many of which were top 10. When their defense was finally at full strength, no one came close to beating them.

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It's difficult to call a team overrated when they averaged a +38 margin of victory through 12 games.

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Look back at Nebraska and Oklahoma scores against the rest of Big 8 in the Switzer-Osborne era. They were always scoring 50+ against teams in that pathetic conference. And then once they played Miami or FSU, they were shut down.

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Also, you judge a team by the competition relative the year they played and when you do that you come to the obvious question: what team could have beaten Nebraska in 1995?

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No one expected Arizona State to beat the shite out of Nebraska 19-0 on the same field as the Fiesta Bowl nine months later. No one expected Texas to put 500+ yards of offense on them in the Big 12 championship. No one expected Nebraska to need a fluke catch to force OT against a mediocre Missouri team in 1997.

You roll the dice enough against good teams in hostile environments, you can definitely be beaten.

1995 Nebraska played 12 games total. No non-conference teams that won more than six games, no conference championship, no playoff semifinal, a terrible OU, no huge and hostile stadiums (no one cares about football in Kansas). They literally beat the shite out of the same teams they always beat the shite out of and drew a soft Florida team in the Fiesta Bowl.

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That might have been true throughout the 80s but Osborne took steps in the early-90s to mitigate this. His offensive linemen became bigger, faster, and more physical.

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No, they didn’t.

Nebraska had great offensive lines all throughout the Osborne era. They lost a lot of Big 8 titles and bowl games against players like the Selmon bros., Bosworth, Casillas, Cortez Kennedy, Russell Maryland, Marvin Jones, Derrick Brooks, Jesse Armstead, Michael Barrow, Ray Lewis, and Warren Sapp.

Players like that are the reason Osborne was 5-12 against Switzer and lost seven straight bowl games (damn near eight).

1995 Nebraska did not play anyone of that caliber on defense. Not even close.

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Yet by the fourth quarter Nebraska's physicality at the point of attack wore down such elite players as Warren Sapp, Kenny Holmes, and Ray Lewis.

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The forgotten point is that Miami’s offense that year was not very good. There was not a Kosar, Testaverde, Walsh, Erickson, Torreta, or Dorsey at QB. All those guys were better than Frank Costa. There also wasn’t a Highsmith, Bratton, Portis type at RB. There wasn’t an Irvin, Kevin Williams, or Andre Johnson type at WR. No future NFL stars on the 1994 Miami O.

Miami lacked firepower in 1994. In spite of that, they held Nebraska to one TD through three quarters. The real problem was Miami couldn’t get a first down in the 4th, Costa overthrew a WR who had ten yards on the Nebraska secondary, and Nebraska started every drive inside between the 40s.

You take a comparable defense (if not better with Vilma, Williams, Wilfork, and Reed) and put the 2001 talent of Dorsey, Portis, Johnson, Shockey, and McKinnie out there on O and now you have problems.

At their best, Miami was too good in the front seven for Nebraska and Oklahoma to run all over them in the I and Wishbone with no passing game.

I don’t consider 2001 Miami the GOAT, but they would be a bad matchup for the 1995 Nebraska team. They could match their physicality up front and Reed would run the alley like a man possessed.

1995 Nebraska was one dimensional. frickin’ Reggie Baul and Clester Johnson aren’t scaring anyone. You think DB’s who faced Andre Johnson, Julio Jones, Amari Cooper, Chase and Jefferson, Smith and Waddle in practice every day are going to struggle against those two and a marginal passer?

Lawrence Phillips? Do you realize how fricked in the head that guy was? Would you want to hitch your wagon to him in hard times against a great defense that was going to pound on him every yard?

The OL? They were all cookie cutter 6’3” 300 lb. white guys. No award winners or high draft picks. Lots of teams have had more talented lines.

Tommie Frazier? He played exclusively under center and ran speed and belly options. None of that is as difficult to defend as all the shite people run now with QB’s out of the gun. He scored zero TD’s against FSU and Miami.

Stack the line with LSU/Alabama talent against Nebraska and make Frazier throw. I know Florida couldn't stop them, but defensive linemen are so much bigger now that I think they would slow them down enough to outscore them.

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Lol at Frac. Again.

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Frac the world said Frac this forum when he got swaddled and handed to his momma.

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You clearly didn’t watch that trash arse defense give up 38 to Texas, 38 to Vandy, 28 to Florida, 37 to Ole Miss, and 41 to Bammer. 

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No one saw the defense give up 38 to Vandy.

Also, why did you lie about only one team missing starters vs 2020 Alabama on the first page?

Not a good look.

Bama fans claiming the “2020 team” as the best team ever is cringy af. The whole season was a farce, stadiums were at 10% capacity and no one gave a shite about football that year. There are so many bama teams I would pick over that one.

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It bothers the shite out of them

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So much so that the Alabama fan doesn't even acknowledge that LSU also beat an Alabama team that finished the season ranked in the top 10:

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2019 LSU defeated:

Clemson
Oklahoma
Florida
Georgia


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It kills Bama fans to know that 2019 LSU team was the best ever. They know it in their heart but that Tide ego just can’t accept it.