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re: Lunardi hates A&M (State on Bubble)
Posted on 3/6/23 at 10:09 am to wm72
Posted on 3/6/23 at 10:09 am to wm72
My main problem with Lunardi is the pos still selectively bullies programs that he thinks "don't belong" to the NCAAT club. Remember being on the receiving end of it, and it still pisses me off. I do think recent performance should matter a lot, but more than 10 games.
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Posted on 3/6/23 at 10:19 am to jsmoove
If the committee treats conference tourneys as meaningless again (other than auto bids), I think State probably makes the cut, maybe in Dayton, but still in. And a win against Florida should probably solidify things unless a bunch of conference tourneys go sideways.
Posted on 3/6/23 at 10:22 am to wm72
There’s all sorts of factors to consider. But there’s an argument that A&M is a sure fire 6 seed, and generously could be a 5 seed. They shouldn’t even be in the conversation for a 7 seed.
Other 6/7 contenders’ Records Vs Quad 1
Creighton 4-7
San Diego St 4-5
Kentucky 6-7
A&M 6-5
Duke 3-7
TCU 7-10
Mich St 6-9
Northwestern 7-5
Other 6/7 contenders’ Records Vs Quad 1
Creighton 4-7
San Diego St 4-5
Kentucky 6-7
A&M 6-5
Duke 3-7
TCU 7-10
Mich St 6-9
Northwestern 7-5
Posted on 3/6/23 at 10:22 am to jsmoove
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My main problem with Lunardi is the pos still selectively bullies programs that he thinks "don't belong" to the NCAAT club.
Lunardi is a Duke and UNC apologist
Posted on 3/6/23 at 10:24 am to AGGIES
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There’s all sorts of factors to consider. But there’s an argument that A&M is a sure fire 6 seed, and generously could be a 5 seed. They shouldn’t even be in the conversation for a 7 seed.
Agreed - A&M should be a 5 IMHO but a 6 at the very least.
Posted on 3/6/23 at 10:29 am to SummerOfGeorge
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Agreed - A&M should be a 5 IMHO but a 6 at the very least.
Agreed
Posted on 3/6/23 at 10:30 am to SummerOfGeorge
That’s fair.
Posted on 3/6/23 at 10:33 am to AGGIES
does anybody think lunardi has any influence over the committee?
Posted on 3/6/23 at 10:34 am to Warwick
No. Maybe possibly back in the pre-blog days when he was the only bracket guy in media, but not today.
Posted on 3/6/23 at 10:36 am to STLhog
Yet if this were any other team we would hear "they are a different team now" "they were finding their identity", only a&m is held to crap like this- see last year "well they lost 6 games in a row"
Posted on 3/6/23 at 10:38 am to STLhog
Arkansas always loves to dog on a&m yet they just keep losing to a&m 
Posted on 3/6/23 at 10:47 am to SummerOfGeorge
i dont think direct influence, but i cant help but wonder if he sort of lays the foundation for them. hard to ignore his projections if you pay any attention to the sport
Posted on 3/6/23 at 10:52 am to jsmoove
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State finished the regular season with a loss, and went 3-3 with a 6 point win at home against South Carolina. Not sure what they're smoking to make them think they're even playing better than Auburn right now.
Well that’s nitpicking to make it sound bad. Last 12 games we went 8-4 with wins over Missouri, at Arkansas, Texas A&M and TCU. Losses were OT loss to Bama, lost by 3 to Kentucky, lost by 2 to Missouri and by 5 at Vandy who has been red hot
Posted on 3/6/23 at 11:02 am to deltaland
True…the last 6 weeks or so State has been playing really good teams. And has respectable wins and efforts in them all. Much better resume than the other “bubble” teams.
Posted on 3/6/23 at 11:09 am to deltaland
My point is when a team deserves to have their recent performances factored in, they have to finish way better than State. You did mention that they should consider them over someone like Auburn who had a murderer's row of close losses, way better metrics, h2h win, a higher conference seeding, and won their play-in game to end the season while you lost to a fringe bubble contender.
Posted on 3/6/23 at 11:50 am to wm72
JSMoove is absolutely right. would pretty much make the case the last ten games should be among the most critical to consider. Games with conference championships and NCAA tournament seedings on the line are much more pressure filled and intense, with so much more at stake, than losing a game at the Waxahachie Invitational in December. As JS suggests, POS Lunardi, is biased against whom he doesn’t consider should be in the tournament. The bias is real…UNC was the consensus #1 pre season. 8 weeks into the season they are 9-4..and still ranked in the top 25 and yet, are still being considered a bubble team. Miss state has played a really tough schedule…what 10 games against top 25 teams? And is 20-11. Yet Lunardi argues a 19-12 UNC “deserves” an NCAA invite. No Aggies I know of claim, we are a final four or even an elite 8 team. But we damn sure have done enough to earn a decent seeding in the NCAAt regardless of the SECt results. FJL
This post was edited on 3/6/23 at 12:58 pm
Posted on 3/6/23 at 12:30 pm to jsmoove
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My point is when a team deserves to have their recent performances factored in, they have to finish way better than State. You did mention that they should consider them over someone like Auburn who had a murderer's row of close losses
You picked our last 6 games. In auburns last 6 y’all
Lost by 32 to Kentucky while we lost by 3 to them in same timeframe
Beat ole miss by 4. We beat them by 8 in same timeframe
Lost to same Vandy team we did in same timeframe
You did beat Missouri handily while we lost by 2 on the road. But earlier in year we beat them at home by double digits
We beat A&M who y’all lost to outside the 6 game timeframe.
Y’all did beat Tennessee which pretty much saved you from getting on the bubble. But go back 10-12 games and state has done a bit better than Auburn
Posted on 3/6/23 at 12:31 pm to Gastrogastro99
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Yet if this were any other team we would hear "they are a different team now" "they were finding their identity", only a&m is held to crap like this- see last year "well they lost 6 games in a row"
I wouldn't go so far as to say it's only us that gets this kind of treatment. It's pretty much every school that isn't traditionally good at basketball. It's not much different than how the the football playoff committee behaves. If two schools are close they will pick the one that has the bigger tradition of winning 9/10 times.
Posted on 3/6/23 at 2:34 pm to jsmoove
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State finished the regular season with a loss, and went 3-3 with a 6 point win at home against South Carolina. Not sure what they're smoking to make them think they're even playing better than Auburn right now.
State had won 8/10 before Saturday night.
Posted on 3/6/23 at 2:37 pm to lowspark12
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State losing to a Robbin-less vandy is inexcusable.
UK only had to deal with Robbins for 4 minutes at Rupp and got beat. So apparently they're pretty good even without Robbins.
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