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re: LSU's place in SEC history

Posted on 12/1/11 at 9:48 am to
Posted by TT9
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Posted on 12/1/11 at 9:48 am to
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Posted by thunderbird1100
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Posted on 12/1/11 at 9:58 am to
We would be JUST barely below Tennessee.

Tennessee with 13 SEC titles and 4 NC
We would then have 11 SEC titles and 4 NC

Granted CFBdatawarehouse already has us slightly above Tennessee all-time right now...but they also give us a NC in 1908 for going undefeated and apparently we've played a much tougher schedule all-time.
Posted by T Rey WI
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Posted on 12/1/11 at 10:04 am to
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If LSU wins the ship this year, it could be argued.


If it has to be "argued" then you have not attained the status.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
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Posted on 12/1/11 at 10:15 am to
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We would be JUST barely below Tennessee. Tennessee with 13 SEC titles and 4 NC We would then have 11 SEC titles and 4 NC Granted CFBdatawarehouse already has us slightly above Tennessee all-time right now...but they also give us a NC in 1908 for going undefeated and apparently we've played a much tougher schedule all-time.

Tennessee has 2 MNCs, 1951 & 1998.

If we counted them like UT, LSU could claim 7:
1908 - National Championship Foundation
1935 - Williamson
1936 - Williamson
1958 - Consensus
1962 - Berryman
2003 - BCS
2007 - Consensus
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 12/1/11 at 10:19 am to
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If we counted them like UT, LSU could claim 7


IMO we should claim 7. If the other SEC schools do it, why shouldn't we?
Posted by thunderbird1100
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Posted on 12/1/11 at 10:21 am to
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Tennessee has 2 MNCs, 1951 & 1998.


Not sure how you can leave off 1938 for them, 11-0 and allowed 16 points all year.
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 12/1/11 at 10:25 am to
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I was also wondering what else does LSU need to do to pass UT.


Assuming we win the big game this year, keep winning at ~75 to 78% clip over the next 4 to 6 years and 1 more BCS - we're probably 2b to Tennessee's 2a.

The head-to-head record, total wins and win percentage will likely keep them in the discussion, even if they don't recover (need a couple of more coaching changes to be competitive again), and even if we edge past them slightly in measurables.

This post was edited on 12/1/11 at 10:26 am
Posted by tiger perry
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Posted on 12/1/11 at 10:28 am to
It's amaning the amount of ground LSU has made up the last 10 years. Moving past UGA and edging closer to Tennessee.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
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Posted on 12/1/11 at 10:29 am to
The AP awarded it to the 11-0 Sugar Bowl champs, TCU.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 12/1/11 at 10:30 am to
Given the recruiting disadvantage they have at Tennessee that can't be overcome by television anymore, I don't see Tennessee being that great again in my lifetime. I'm not trying to flame Vol fans, that's my honest opinion.
Posted by KajunGator
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Posted on 12/1/11 at 10:33 am to
School Last Total Div

Alabama 2009 22 7

Tennessee 1998 13 6

Georgia 2005 12 5

LSU 2007 10 7

Florida 2008 8 (1 vacated) 11

Auburn 2010 7 7

Mississippi 1963 6 1

Georgia Tech* 1998 (ACC) 5 NA

Tulane* 1998 (Conference USA) 3 NA

Kentucky 1976 2 0

Mississippi State 1941 1 1

Arkansas 1989 (Southwest Conference) 0 3

Sewanee* 1909 (SIAA) 0 NA

South Carolina 1969 (ACC) 0 1

Vanderbilt 1923 (SoCon) 0 0
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
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Posted on 12/1/11 at 10:50 am to
Historically LSU has been ahead of UGA.

Only in the 90's (1994) did UGA pass LSU in o/a win%. But if LSU wins out, and UGA goes 1-1 to finish, LSU will pass UGA in o/a win%.

LSU has always led the head-to-head with UGA.
Posted by Phil A Sheo
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Posted on 12/1/11 at 10:53 am to
LSU has been one of the most dominant SEC teams since 2000...Dats all I got
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 12/1/11 at 11:00 am to
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LSU has been one of the most dominant SEC teams since 2000...Dats all I got


Which is awesome and has been incredible.

As of right now I would say the rankings(historicaly) would be

1.Bama


2. UT

3a. UGA
3b. LSU
3c. Auburn
with UF close behind because of their championships

LSU with a championship this year will move ahead of UGA but still be 3a, do it again next year and LSU is 2b with UT
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
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Posted on 12/1/11 at 11:01 am to
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School Last Total Div Alabama 2009 22 7 Tennessee 1998 13 6 Georgia 2005 12 5 LSU 2007 10 7 Florida 2008 8 (1 vacated) 11

And those are just SEC champs.

If we're talking ALL-time, you'd have to add LSU's 2 SIAA and 1 Southern titles, and by the way, we'll go ahead and claim that '84 title the Gators vacated. After all, LSU tied UF @ UF and represented the SEC in the Sugar as having the next best conference record.

That ties LSU with UGA at 14 conference titles apiece.

Posted by RollTideRockStar
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Posted on 12/1/11 at 11:10 am to
Just be careful that LSU doesn't turn out to be the new Miami. Miami ruled CFB in the 80's and won a shite ton of games. They came out of no where with no real tradition at all. Now, almost non-existent.
Posted by Nuts4LSU
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Posted on 12/1/11 at 11:11 am to
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I would guess third behind Alabama and Tennessee?


I think we'd be at least to the point of a debate with Tennessee. I know they have more SEC championships and a better record historically, but we would have more national championships and recent success is (or should be) more heavily weighted than distant past success.
Posted by Nuts4LSU
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Posted on 12/1/11 at 11:16 am to
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UT only has 2 SEC TITLES since I was born in 1979. I could be wrong


It's more than that.

They won it in 1985, 1989 (shared with Bama and Auburn), 1990 (UF finished ahead but ineligible), 1997 and 1998.
Posted by clamdip
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Posted on 12/1/11 at 11:19 am to
1. Bama



2. Tenn
3. LSU
4. UGA
5. Auburn


6. florida

Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 12/1/11 at 11:22 am to
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Just be careful that LSU doesn't turn out to be the new Miami. Miami ruled CFB in the 80's and won a shite ton of games. They came out of no where with no real tradition at all.

God, you fricktards are just too much.

Give it a rest already.
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