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re: LSU vs A&M football will be a Top 5 rated matchup Nationally within 5 years??

Posted on 6/5/13 at 3:15 pm to
Posted by MetryTyger
Metro NOLA, LA
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 6/5/13 at 3:15 pm to
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TeLeFaWx
LSU vs A&M football will be a Top 5 rated matchup Nationally within 5 years??


LSU will struggle this decade. 4-8 is in their near future.




And? Why is that? You're simple-minded one-cell amoeba brain hopeful fantasies?
Explain how a program that has not had a losing season or missed a bowl game since 2000 (only school in the country to do so), and has Top 5 or better recruiting nearly every year, can suddenly go 4-8.
The only thing that is even close to a reason would be the schedules your Shama Thug Scheduling Coordinator shamelessly changes every year - for instance -
Bama suddenly trading Georiga to LSU in exchange for Kentucky. Crap like that.

Consume feces and expire, Skoal Chin Juice Teabagging POS.
This post was edited on 6/5/13 at 3:24 pm
Posted by tigafan89
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2009
1339 posts
Posted on 6/5/13 at 3:21 pm to
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TT9

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A&ms best team in 25 years couldn't beat a 10-3 LSU team


And Alabama's best team in 25 years couldn't beat a 11-2 TAMU team.
Posted by Gradual_Stroke
Bee Cave, TX
Member since Oct 2012
20917 posts
Posted on 6/5/13 at 3:21 pm to
Posted by sbrian3915
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2011
648 posts
Posted on 6/5/13 at 3:38 pm to
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Jury is still out on Texas A&M from a longevity standpoint





The only people who keep saying that are rivals/opponents who want this to be true. All evidence suggests A&M is here to stay.


History says otherwise. In college football, a program is who they are over the long run. It's what Stewart Mandel calls the Ole Miss/Clemson Syndrome. A program has one great year in the middle of years of mediocrity and all of a sudden the fanbase thinks that said years of mediocrity is in the past.

LSU was a medicore program once destined to be bad again with a few good years thrown in there. It took 10+ years of solid football to change that, meaning winning multiple SEC titles, multiple national titles and firing off season after season of 9, 10, and 11 wins and winning bowl games year after year.

A&M needs several more years like 2012 and must reload in recruiting instead of rebuild several times before they are here to stay as a power.
Posted by Choot em Tiger
Member since Jan 2012
9800 posts
Posted on 6/5/13 at 3:41 pm to
An exhausted bama team after having to fight their asses off and tire themselves to win the week before against LSU who played out of their minds. And I'm pretty sure 92, 09, and 11 were all better than last years bama team.
Posted by Mirthomatic
Member since Feb 2013
4113 posts
Posted on 6/5/13 at 3:47 pm to
A&M still has to prove it over the long haul, but the fundamentals are in our favor. A&M was the #18 winningest program all time when we were in the same conference as UTx. Going to the SEC has given us a pitch to Texas recruits that the longhorns can't one-up. Even if A&M hits a rough patch, Sumlin (or whoever) will still be able to tell a Texas recruit that if they want to stay in-state and play against the best opponents, their only choice is A&M. The Aggies might lose a few more to LSU, but they will likely more than make up for it in recruiting wins against UTx and OU.

Of course nothing is certain, but the signs are favorable.
Posted by dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196
Dystopia (but well cared for)
Member since Mar 2012
25235 posts
Posted on 6/5/13 at 3:47 pm to
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LSU was a medicore program once destined to be bad again

The destruction of Archer/Hallman still resonates.

When Coach Dinardo arrived one of his key statements to the fanbase was "bring back the magic..." LSU was not the juggernaut as UA or UT, that's not what I'm saying. But we were a proud program for decades that usually could compete with anyone. Archer/Hallman, in 8 years, almost destroyed this. Coach Dinardo relaid a foundation that Coach Saban built a mansion on, that Coach Miles is (struggling at times) trying to maintain.
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29200 posts
Posted on 6/5/13 at 3:52 pm to
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season after season of 9, 10, and 11 wins


The 90s called. You're showing your age.
Posted by RoscoeHarper
Edmond, OK
Member since Aug 2011
4556 posts
Posted on 6/5/13 at 4:00 pm to
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An exhausted bama team after having to fight their asses off and tire themselves to win the week before against LSU who played out of their minds.


Are you really trying to use this tired arse argument again?? A&M had played 10 straight games with no bye week and the Bama game was the fifth road game out of six for A&M. Not an excuse
Posted by Mirthomatic
Member since Feb 2013
4113 posts
Posted on 6/5/13 at 4:03 pm to
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Are you really trying to use this tired arse argument again?? A&M had played 10 straight games with no bye week and the Bama game was the fifth road game out of six for A&M. Not an excuse


Yeah, it's a bit like saying "Sure we lost to the Aggies, but in our defense, we're mental and physical weaklings."
Posted by MetryTyger
Metro NOLA, LA
Member since Jan 2004
15609 posts
Posted on 6/5/13 at 4:09 pm to
quote:

TeLeFaWx
LSU vs A&M football will be a Top 5 rated matchup Nationally within 5 years??

quote:

season after season of 9, 10, and 11 wins


The 90s called. You're showing your age.
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WTF does that even mean????? He was referring to the 2000's, DetergentHead....
[quote]
'It took 10+ years of solid football to change that, meaning winning multiple SEC titles, multiple national titles and firing off season after season of 9, 10, and 11 wins and winning bowl games year after year.' [quote]

The "10+ years" he was referring to was from 2000 - on. And actually 9 of those years have been 10 wins or more, and 7 were 11 wins or more.

BTW, SkoalJuiceChin, the 90's were not all bad for LSU. We had three consecutive winning seasons and won three straight bowl games from 1995-97, including a 27-NOTHING thumping of the Toothless Gumpsters in 1997.

This post was edited on 6/5/13 at 4:10 pm
Posted by cramps
Member since Oct 2012
2176 posts
Posted on 6/5/13 at 4:10 pm to
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An exhausted bama team after having to fight their asses off and tire themselves to win the week before against LSU who played out of their minds.


Why do people make excuses for Bama when they don't need them? LSU beat A&M. Congrats. No need to take credit for someone else's victory after choking away one in Death Valley.
Posted by sbrian3915
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2011
648 posts
Posted on 6/5/13 at 4:11 pm to
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The destruction of Archer/Hallman still resonates.

When Coach Dinardo arrived one of his key statements to the fanbase was "bring back the magic..." LSU was not the juggernaut as UA or UT, that's not what I'm saying. But we were a proud program for decades that usually could compete with anyone. Archer/Hallman, in 8 years, almost destroyed this. Coach Dinardo relaid a foundation that Coach Saban built a mansion on, that Coach Miles is (struggling at times) trying to maintain.


DiNardo is a perfect example of my point. He brought back the magic alright, for a few seasons, then they went precicely nowhere.

It was Saban and Miles that have made this program what it is today. These days, LSU expects to be in the national title picture every year. If they are not, the season is a disappointment. LSU has had good years in the past, (and a title) but the year in year out expectation has never been what it is now up until the last 10 years.

When Michigan or Ohio State or Alabama or USC or Texas have lean years, even several lean years in a row, there is still the feeling that sooner or later, the program will pull itself out of its funk. LSU has not had that feeling until recently.

Look at last year. LSU was 10-3, 6-2 with an ugly loss to Florida and 2 very painful losses to Alabama and Clemson. Did they have a good year or a bad year or what kind of year was it? I'd call it disappointing. A&M was 11-2,6-2. What kind of year was that. I think the general opinion was that it was a good year.

When 11-2, 6-2 is disappointing...that is when you know A&M has made it to the top tier of SEC teams. There was a time not too long ago that 10-3,6-2 would have been a good year for LSU, but now its disappointing.
Posted by RebFeBrees
Pensacola, FL
Member since Dec 2009
13855 posts
Posted on 6/5/13 at 4:12 pm to
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LSU is in a tailspin right now, they'll be Kentucky level bad within 5 years.

I like to think A & M can sustain, but they're a 2 win team max without JF.




Posted by Geaux23
Member since Sep 2012
5819 posts
Posted on 6/5/13 at 4:13 pm to
LSU is in a tailspin?????
How the frick do you justify that
Posted by Choot em Tiger
Member since Jan 2012
9800 posts
Posted on 6/5/13 at 4:16 pm to
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LSU beat A&M

quote:

Choking away one in Death Valley




So LSU>bama/a&m?
Posted by finestfirst79
Vicksburg, Mississippi
Member since Nov 2012
11646 posts
Posted on 6/5/13 at 5:50 pm to
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parkjas2001:
A&M is moving in a very Houston Cougar direction.


I don't know how you figure this. Four very good A&M RB's will be fighting for playing time and are the main reason JFF won't have his 2012 rushing output, sez me.

quote:

dbt_Geaux_Tigers_196:
I read quite a few of Coach Sumlin's remarks when A&M got the invite.


My favorite: "I want to be around people who want to play at the highest level, want to compete in THE best conference in America and the best division in America and, if you're scared of that, GET A DOG."

quote:

Choot_em_Tiger:
Get a new kicker


Hopefully he improves in his soph year. Lou Groza-winner Randy Bullock also had a rough freshman year. Bertolet has a strong-enough leg, routinely kicking off through the end zone. He was just a head case. We'll see.

For the OP, I think 5 years is about right. A&M needs to win some of those for this to take off.
Posted by CBandits82
Lurker since May 2008
Member since May 2012
54308 posts
Posted on 6/5/13 at 6:08 pm to
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LSU will struggle this decade. 4-8 is in their near future.



Agreed, the tailspin is coming. Our recruiting just isn't where it used to be. The earlier we can accept that the better we can move on.
Posted by Maroon Flash
Florida
Member since May 2013
1527 posts
Posted on 6/5/13 at 6:15 pm to
LSU has a good team, a good recruiting territory and will be good every year.

A&M is finally recovering from a decade of absolutely abysmal coaching and has a good recruiting territory as well.

There are going to be some meaningful games in the future and I am excited about the prospect of the Aggies getting to play a tough conference game every rivalry weekend.

I think this will end up being one of the seasons high profile games on a regular basis.


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