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re: LSU offense... is an aggressive defense compatible with this offense?

Posted on 9/8/19 at 10:00 am to
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 9/8/19 at 10:00 am to
Our front got gassed after we fricked up that 3rd and 1 after halftime. I expect our stamina will improve gradually as the season gets going next 2-3 weeks. The guys cramping were all guys who missed significant time in camp. (Chaisson, Delpit, Divinity) I hope Lawrence isn’t out long.
Posted by DeafJam73
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 9/8/19 at 10:04 am to
Texas’ offense and Sam Ehlinger is the best LSU will see until Bama. It was balls hot playing on artificial turf. And LSU’s defense had one bad half. Played well the first half. So, no. I don’t think the offense will be too fast for the defense. You also have to remember that defenses feed on emotion and energy of the game. If the offense lights it up, the defense will usually be motivated to go out and get off the field quickly.

What you saw last night was a great game by Texas’ offense. Pure and simple. LSU still has a defense loaded with great players that will bounce back from this.
Posted by Tridentds
Sugar Land
Member since Aug 2011
20368 posts
Posted on 9/8/19 at 10:08 am to
I like the uptempo offense and LSU is also able to run with power. Very nice combination. Uptempo took it's toll on Texas for sure. They tried to substitute once and 2 guys were caught still on the field when the ball was snapped.

Texass had little chance of stopping LSU last night. They needed LSU to make mistakes, drop balls, fumble, etc.. to stop them but LSU really only did that twice the whole game. Texass caught 2 good breaks last night, otherwise there would have been a 17 point differential.

Really was a nice performance by LSU on the road with a new offense.

Posted by DeafJam73
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 9/8/19 at 10:10 am to
If LSU’s defense doesn’t get slashed on that 19 play drive, the margin of victory would have been much larger.
Posted by Cadello
Eunice
Member since Dec 2007
47795 posts
Posted on 9/8/19 at 10:13 am to
All I know: This team is fun to watch.
Posted by misey94
Hernando, MS
Member since Jan 2007
23327 posts
Posted on 9/8/19 at 10:19 am to
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Honestly not sure that an uptempo offense is really compatible with the aggressive style of defense LSU is known for.


That was NOT an aggressive defense, and that was a big part of the problem. I think Aranda dialed things back and played conservative. All that did was let Ehlinger get into a rhythm and play better. The only success we had in the 2nd half was when we got aggressive and blitzed, but he wouldn’t stick with it.
This post was edited on 9/8/19 at 10:21 am
Posted by DeafJam73
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 9/8/19 at 10:26 am to
I think Aranda was afraid that if he was too aggressive that Ehlinger would gash them on the ground. He wanted to force him to play QB and try to beat us throwing. He wanted his WRs to have to out play our DBs. And his plan worked until that 19 play drive. We just couldn’t get off the field. The game plan was solid. And it worked for the first half. Why make adjustments on what held a high powered offense to just 7 points? But Ehlinger was playing to win. He was just a great player last night. You can argue that Aranda should have blitzed more, but sometimes you get beat. It happens. I have no doubt that we still have a great defense.
Posted by batture boy
Nacogdoches, TX
Member since Dec 2007
293 posts
Posted on 9/8/19 at 10:34 am to
I guess the OP didn't watch the game. The problem was not being too aggressive on D. It was that Aranda was too conservative in the second half. Way too many 3-man rushes and not enough blitzes. When we did blitz, it worked. Herman made good halftime adjustments, and Aranda failed to counter. We need to see better from him. Our D also needs to practice tackling some more. O said they put an emphasis on this during the summer, but it didn't show last night. We wrap up regularly, and that game would not have been close. Not up to LSU's standard on D. But, man, that offense was glorious! It's like our offensive coaches suddenly discovered the elixir of life.
This post was edited on 9/8/19 at 10:36 am
Posted by Woodreaux
OC California
Member since Jan 2008
2790 posts
Posted on 9/8/19 at 10:40 am to
I honestly didn't think the staff had the courage and resolve to truly commit to this change.

We're adults here who live in reality.
We understand phenomenon of cause and effect.
We recognize the relationship between the time offense spends on the field has bearing on the challenge the defense faces.

I have confidence in LSU's historically stout defense; they are up to the escalated challenge the new offense creates. I wish the defense numbers would look just when LSU was running the Toss Dive a dozen times per game, but I'm grudgingly accepting the reality that last night, LSU beat a BigXII heavy weight in a shoot out. Just typing that makes me snicker and giggle.
Posted by misey94
Hernando, MS
Member since Jan 2007
23327 posts
Posted on 9/8/19 at 10:43 am to
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He was just a great player last night. You can argue that Aranda should have blitzed more, but sometimes you get beat. It happens. I have no doubt that we still have a great defense.


I mean, we were getting killed the entire 2nd half. Why not stick a little more with what actually worked and make them adjust? It was Aranda’s lack of adjustments when his base plan stopped working that got to me. Unless you consider a FG a stop, we didn’t have one the entire 2nd half.
Posted by misey94
Hernando, MS
Member since Jan 2007
23327 posts
Posted on 9/8/19 at 10:45 am to
quote:

I have confidence in LSU's historically stout defense; they are up to the escalated challenge the new offense creates. I wish the defense numbers would look just when LSU was running the Toss Dive a dozen times per game, but I'm grudgingly accepting the reality that last night, LSU beat a BigXII heavy weight in a shoot out. Just typing that makes me snicker and giggle.


I do too and Aranda has a few games to figure things out coming up. But he’s going to have to change some things to be successful against the good teams we play going forward.
Posted by DeafJam73
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 9/8/19 at 10:48 am to
quote:

I mean, we were getting killed the entire 2nd half. Why not stick a little more with what actually worked and make them adjust? It was Aranda’s lack of adjustments when his base plan stopped working that got to me. Unless you consider a FG a stop, we didn’t have one the entire 2nd h


The FG was a HUGE stop.

I agree that we should have been more aggressive. Particularly on 3rd down. I don’t know why he didn’t call more blitzes. He had his reasons. The man knows more about football than any of us EVER will. I have faith that he will right the ship.
Posted by MOJO_ERASER
Tulsa Oklahoma
Member since Jun 2017
5839 posts
Posted on 9/8/19 at 10:51 am to
This is a really good post . This is a real problem LSU will have to figure out. They are going to use more players than they are use to and start subbbing early and often LSU waited to long to get a lot of players reps. Texas has the same issue. This is life when you have a good offense who scores quick.
Posted by GeekedUp
Virginia
Member since Jun 2009
1965 posts
Posted on 9/8/19 at 10:52 am to
Nope. Haven’t seen an example otherwise so far. It’s Big 12/Pac 12 football. It’s exciting and should win a lot of games. But just like the elite teams from conferences, I expect it to come up short against slightly lower tempo offenses with aggressive defenses.
Posted by REBSontheRISE
Member since Nov 2008
4420 posts
Posted on 9/8/19 at 10:59 am to
The LSU team looked remarkably similar to the Hugh Freeze Rebel squads of 2014-2015, and you guys shite on those teams for no defense. Now, it’s just adjustments that are needed when it’s the Tigers being evaluated. Lol, similar results can probably be expected
Posted by DeafJam73
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
18432 posts
Posted on 9/8/19 at 11:00 am to
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This is a really good post . This is a real problem LSU will have to figure out. They are going to use more players than they are use to and start subbbing early and often LSU waited to long to get a lot of players reps. Texas has the same issue. This is life when you have a good offense who scores quick.



I’m really not worried. My biggest concern is Rashard Lawrence. I don’t know how serious of an injury he has. As for adapting to the new offense, LSU has the depth everywhere except corner. Which, is not all that horrible.
Posted by zoom
everywhere
Member since Apr 2013
3567 posts
Posted on 9/8/19 at 11:03 am to
They weren't up tempo the whole game? Wth
Posted by The Godfather
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Posted on 9/8/19 at 11:06 am to
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Aggies with some really weird melts today.



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Did A&M win? Did A&M score when it mattered? You paid Jimbo how much for this shite? Rent free Faggie!



I wish our really stupid fans would post less than they actually do.
Posted by DeafJam73
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
18432 posts
Posted on 9/8/19 at 11:09 am to
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I wish our really stupid fans would post less than they actually do.


It’s why I spend more time here than the Tiger Rant.
Posted by Roaad
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Member since Aug 2006
76472 posts
Posted on 9/8/19 at 11:12 am to
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Defense needs to get off the field on 3rd downs. Too many conversions given up last night
1st downs were what was killing us.

When you allow then 2nd and 2 almost every time, you leave Herman far too many creative options.
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