misey94
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re: Jay Announces Weekend Rotation
Posted by misey94 on 2/12/26 at 3:25 pm to Hold That Tiger 10
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Really excited to see Schmidt. Hopefully he has command and can make a big jump this year.
I think we all hope he can get control of his very high potential stuff. But if he doesn’t, there is good depth and a few pretty good options to move up into that spot. Noot and Williams, who really came on late last season, are experienced and have the potential to make a run at the job, along with a few new guys.
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re: Jay Announces Weekend Rotation
Posted by misey94 on 2/12/26 at 3:22 pm to poncho villa
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I've seen better weekend rotations in the quad
Ah, one of the fricking idiots is staking a claim early this year :lol:
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You think that money showed up post NIL?
What are you babbling about? A major stadium upgrade is going to take at least 2-3 years to plan from proposal to rendering to engineering. That’s bare minimum. Neither of those two upgrades started their trek toward reality before NIL blew up into what we’ve seen the last 2-3 years, especially now with Rev Share moving revenue directly to players.
It is doubtful we will see another major SEC baseball stadium upgrade for a while unless a particular donor or entity funds most or all of it.
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None of them forked over tens of millions on firing a football coach, hiring the highest paid football coach, spent millions on NIL and won two NCs in three years because we spent our baseball money on the right things.
UT and Auburn are the only ones to do a major baseball stadium upgrade post NIL, and both have smaller parks that make those upgrades cheaper and easier.
The facilities arms race is over and building and upgrades will be out of necessity unless a specific donor funds it. Money is going other places now, chiefly talent acquisition. That’s more important than any stadium upgrade.
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The Box was behind a team or 2 the year it opened. It makes me so sick, the best fricking baseball school in the SEC has aluminum bleachers down the lines and in the outfield. EMBARRASSING
It had size in its favor when it was built. That, and none of the stadiums at that time had amenities like what we are seeing added to the most recent upgrades. I’m sure it would have been better if it had been built a few years later (after Bertman retired), but unfortunately that’s not how it went.
As much as we want it to be, the Box will not be a priority for a while. That’s just how it is with rev share taking athletic dept funds and putting them in the hands of players now. Basketball needs more help and sooner. That’s just reality.
re: Do people honestly think McMahon will be coaching here next season?
Posted by misey94 on 2/11/26 at 8:02 pm to ForeverLSU5
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I really hope what I heard is wrong this time but we shall see. Will know much more in the next week I think.
As badly as things are trending at the moment, this would be an outside the norm decision. Typically a new President and AD will be quick with the hook for a coach with this poor of a record who wasn’t their hire.
re: Do people honestly think McMahon will be coaching here next season?
Posted by misey94 on 2/11/26 at 7:58 pm to The Hurricane
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LSU is about to overpay for a big coach and they have to. They cannot spend another 2-3 years letting a young coach develop a team.
Not happening. This is going to be another mid-major climber hire. They just need a standard contract with a reasonable buyout this time so we can move on after year two if they don’t show progress.
re: Who is the worst LSU coach (in big sports) over the last 50 years?
Posted by misey94 on 2/11/26 at 7:44 pm to PP7 for heisman
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I promise you, he is a significantly better coach than Jones.
Jones was a terrible bench coach and program manager. He had two teams that imploded down the stretch of the season, which was telling. He was similarly poor as an assistant and interim head coach at Memphis.
But he absolutely could recruit in the pre-NIL sense. He’s one of the best examples of how much talent matters in college basketball. You need both talent and coaching for real success, but talent alone will still deliver more results than a ok to good coach with a deficient roster. He was a total disaster as a leader, but he still won at a decent clip for a few years, even adjusting for the SEC not being as good at the time.
Is McMahon a better “coach?” It’s hard to say, because we haven’t seen him run a team with much talent at this level, and we never will. Both have won at the mid to low major level, so I’m not sure that differentiates them. Jones has the record advantage on him, but that doesn’t mean he was good. His inability to move up from Texas Southern even after winning consistently there is telling. That is his level and the market knows it, much the same as Murrry is McMahon’s.
Curley is the worst COACH in terms of developing and using the talent he had available. He improved the level of recruiting over Archer, so that wasn’t the primary issue. He was completely incompetent as a program leader and X and O coach. He made multiple very bad hires and routinely did things that were completely non-sensical and against standard practice, such has constantly rotating his OL in-game. When you do shite like that and consistently lose, you’re incompetent.
McMahon is likely a better coach- still bad, just not on the level of Curley’s insanity. His biggest issue is that he has absolutely no idea how to build a team to compete at this level, even with the money to do it the last two offseasons. That’s a very different issue than Curley. In SEC basketball today, even a great coach would struggle to win with the rosters we’ve had under McMahon. They may not be completely devoid of talent, but they are just collections of players, not teams that make any real sense together.
In the end, it just depends on how you weigh these things. I lean Curley because I saw first hand how bad he managed a team that absolutely had enough talent for a winning season and a bowl game his last two years. It took effort to frick that up, but he still managed it.
That said, team building and talent acquisition are also requirements of a head coach, so I’m sure some will lean the other way.
McMahon is likely a better coach- still bad, just not on the level of Curley’s insanity. His biggest issue is that he has absolutely no idea how to build a team to compete at this level, even with the money to do it the last two offseasons. That’s a very different issue than Curley. In SEC basketball today, even a great coach would struggle to win with the rosters we’ve had under McMahon. They may not be completely devoid of talent, but they are just collections of players, not teams that make any real sense together.
In the end, it just depends on how you weigh these things. I lean Curley because I saw first hand how bad he managed a team that absolutely had enough talent for a winning season and a bowl game his last two years. It took effort to frick that up, but he still managed it.
That said, team building and talent acquisition are also requirements of a head coach, so I’m sure some will lean the other way.
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as i've said before, Wade would be an upgrade, for sure... but it would really just feel like we are settling for a guy vs. trying to get the best guy that we can possibly get... in the sports we've swung for the fences in, we've done well, and will likely do well once more (football)... there is no reason we shouldn't try to get better than Wade, and if we miss out, circle back to Wade as a back up plan
We aren’t hiring Wade or any other power conference coach unless there’s a Chris Beard situation that shakes someone loose at the right time. We will very likely be getting another mid-major upside guy like Wade was when he came here. Everyone here will be better off if they just accept that reality right now. We just have to hope this one works out better than MM.
re: LSU pretty much gave itself the death penalty by hiring Matt McMahon
Posted by misey94 on 2/8/26 at 11:32 pm to Big4SALTbro
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We have this thing called the transfer portal. Even if you take out year 1 and 2 for MM, we have a terrible record in year 3 and 4.
He clearly has no clue how to build a team that can consistently compete at the high major level. He had enough money this offseason and he still couldn’t do it. Talent and team construction are everything at this level of college basketball.
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McCreary had 2 seasons that were equivalent to McMahon's best season and 3 more that were better than McMahon's 2nd best season. Press Maravich inherited Frank Truitt's abysmal team in an era where you couldn't start over every year. Only his first season was as bad as a typical McMahon season. His last was the only other one not comparable or better than McMahon's best season.
Both of them operated in an SEC that routinely had 6-8 mediocre to bad teams, yet they turned in 1 quality season with an NIT birth between the two of them over 14 years. They managed 4 seasons out of 14 over .500 with only one of them over 2 games over .500. And Maravich had 3 years of Pete to work with. Give me a fricking break.
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Misey name who was worse with a compelling argument to prove it!
I said before in an earlier post, but Jay McCreary (58-65) had a .360 win percentage in what was a pretty weak SEC outside of UK and a couple of others. His best finish was tied for 4th, but still had a losing record that season, which illustrates my point of how weak the league was pretty well. If you go back through the records, there were never more than 3-5 good to decent teams at the top of the league in those years, so posting those records while playing 6-8 mediocre to bad teams every year is a level below what’s happening here right now.
There is also a case to be made that Press Maravich wasn’t any better. He had a .417 win percentage, but that was bolstered by one season. The fact that he had one of the best players of all fricking time in a similarly weak SEC doesn’t help his case. LSU obviously wasn’t investing in hoops when these two coached, but that doesn't absolve them any more than it does McMahon right now.
It’s a very low bar, but it still means McMahon isn’t what the OP claimed. But he is still the worst in a long time and he obviously needs to go.
re: You know what, screw McMahon
Posted by misey94 on 2/8/26 at 8:12 pm to Big4SALTbro
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Though thinking about it until semi recently we did play arky in Little Rock. Kinda of a by gone era of college football having bama, arky ole miss all playing multiple games not at their main campus
At some point, the NCAA instituted rules limiting the ability to recruit the same way using neutral site games, even if they are obviously home games in the same state. That was the death-knell for big games, especially SEC games, being handled this way. The MS and Alabama schools both stopped for this reason. I’m surprised UGA and UF still do it.
re: You know what, screw McMahon
Posted by misey94 on 2/8/26 at 8:05 pm to drizztiger
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I read your posts with an open mind, but when you had to go back to coaches since WWII, I had to laugh.
That was just a response to the hyperbole of the OP. We’ve had multiple coaches as bad or worse in multiple sports, not just basketball. He’s not good. He’s just not the worst coach in program history. People said the same shite about BK and it wasn’t true for him, either. Just fire them and move on without being so damn over-emotional about it.
I’ll admit Jones was a bit of a straw man, but he’s still not a good coach and where he’s coaching now with no offers to move up adequately demonstrates what his level is. It’s similar to McMahon’s at Murray St, although the SWAC is a far worse league, overall.
re: You know what, screw McMahon
Posted by misey94 on 2/8/26 at 7:55 pm to Big4SALTbro
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I don’t see how they can’t correct this unless our money people are not willing due to Scott’s buyout fest. Which as much as I love lsu MBB if the price of that is the Lane train winning titles then so be it.
I’m sure they will move on, but I don’t expect a name hire. It just needs to be the right up and comer this time. That’s what Wade was when he came here.
re: You know what, screw McMahon
Posted by misey94 on 2/8/26 at 7:53 pm to Big4SALTbro
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Scott had us way behind one point on NIL despite his silly NILSU ads in Times Square. Scott was playing by the letter of the law all while others were playing in where we all knew it would go. LSU has since corrected it.
I agree, but he caught up and set the table for what we have now. Or at least put the people in place who did it.
He definitely undid himself with the meddling, which was completely unnecessary. He basically fired himself. But the situation left behind is far better than what Dean left and better financially than what we had after Alleva, even with the contract buyouts. The spending we are seeing right now adequately proves that.
re: You know what, screw McMahon
Posted by misey94 on 2/8/26 at 7:48 pm to drizztiger
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He came up with the conclusion of recency bias and then decided to figure out how to get there. It’s very apparent in the posts.
I knew the disparity in coaching and overall conference performance very well. The fact that all of you blindly dismiss it is hilarious.
re: You know what, screw McMahon
Posted by misey94 on 2/8/26 at 7:46 pm to Big4SALTbro
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I agree Jones wasn’t much better. At the end of the day MM would need to be fired if he is the worst second or third considering these results
I agree. And he will be. There’s no way a first year Prez and AD will back a guy they didn’t hire who’s performing this poorly.
re: You know what, screw McMahon
Posted by misey94 on 2/8/26 at 7:45 pm to Big4SALTbro
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Scott might actually be worse than Joe Alleva who should have never had the job. Joe Dean was pretty damn bad. Alleva probably has the title of worst AD considering his time here and Duke
That’s just not even close to being true. Alleva was a spineless weasel who hired O because he couldn’t be bothered to run a coaching search beyond Herman and was too arrogant to bring in help. He also presided over a department that didn’t have the fundraising or organization that Woody was able to bring.
However people want to look back at the JJ and Mulkey hires and whether Woody should or shouldn’t get credit for them, the financial position of the department and NIL are the good things that he left behind. In more capable and less political hands, those should serve Rousse, Verge and Kiffin very well.
re: You know what, screw McMahon
Posted by misey94 on 2/8/26 at 7:14 pm to Big4SALTbro
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It looks worse for MM that in the time he has been hired every single sec team managed a tourny birth but us. MM failed to make it when sub 500 sec teams were let in
I’ll conceded MM is worse even with the adjustments, not that Jones was much better. My main point is that McMahon is not the “worst coach in LSU sports history.” He’s likely not even the worst basketball coach in LSU history when you look back before Brown. But that’s the recency bias hysteria this board loves to constantly indulge in.
There’s another thread on Page 1 right now saying Woody is the worst AD in NCAA history when both Alleva and Dean were FAR worse hete just since I went to LSU. It’s a constant here.
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