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re: LSU fans, why did Russell Shepard not pan out?

Posted on 10/18/12 at 11:52 am to
Posted by bigpapamac
Mobile, AL
Member since Oct 2007
22450 posts
Posted on 10/18/12 at 11:52 am to
Les isn't creative enough to use him in the offense.
Posted by Billy Mays
Member since Jan 2009
25504 posts
Posted on 10/18/12 at 11:54 am to
Shep was Sam McGuffie esque minus the hurdling as far as the hype train goes
Posted by LsuTool
Member since Oct 2009
35475 posts
Posted on 10/18/12 at 11:56 am to
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Too much talent


disagree

dude was overhyped. He pretty fast, but not a blazer, he doesn't have good hands, he lacks confidence, and he can't break tackles.

he couldnt cut it at QB and doesn't have the hands to be a WR in our offense. He would've been better off in a wide open offense playing HB and slot WR that could give him the opportunity for 10 or so touches a game. He's just not going to get that many chances in our offense and he's not consistent enough for us to keep feeding it to him.
Posted by LsuTool
Member since Oct 2009
35475 posts
Posted on 10/18/12 at 11:56 am to
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Deangelo Benton + Trovon Reed > Russell Shepard


false
Posted by bbap
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2006
96502 posts
Posted on 10/18/12 at 12:01 pm to
yeah i dont know why people think he is just loaded with talent.

cant throw
cant catch consistently
cant break ankles
cant break tackles
has above average speed but not elite.
Posted by TheDoc
doc is no more
Member since Dec 2005
99297 posts
Posted on 10/18/12 at 12:01 pm to
Player without a position
Posted by stho381
Lafayette, LA
Member since Jan 2012
4634 posts
Posted on 10/18/12 at 12:17 pm to
Never developed into a WR with good hands.

He was underutilized by this offense, but the opportunities he did have, he usually didn't take advantage of them. He was also crazy fast his freshman year and lost a step as he added size.

My opinion.
Posted by Brettesaurus Rex
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2009
38261 posts
Posted on 10/18/12 at 12:27 pm to
It's hard to expect him to be a successful WR when he played QB his whole career before here. He's an excellent athlete but that doesn't always translate to success. I always thought he was best running out of the backfield or gadget/sweep plays. But just throwing out there at WR, I didn't think Ed ever really become a star.
Posted by Gumpalicious
Bham
Member since Aug 2010
121 posts
Posted on 10/18/12 at 12:28 pm to
Blake Sims for Alabama reminds me of RS. Not the same hype coming out of highschool, but a phenomenal athlete without any true position.
Posted by ScoopAndScore
baton rouge
Member since Oct 2008
12198 posts
Posted on 10/18/12 at 12:29 pm to
5'10 180 lbs. Doesn't have a position on offense.

ETA: No position especially because he can't catch.
This post was edited on 10/18/12 at 12:32 pm
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
92569 posts
Posted on 10/18/12 at 12:30 pm to
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I just saw an article that lists him as a senior and wondered why he never got going. Just curious as UF has had plenty of superstars that never reached their potential for one reason or another. I always thought RS would be a dynamic player.


There is little room in our system for an offensive skill player who can do a little of everything fairly well, but nothing outstanding. His hands were suspect to begin with, and once he moved to wideout - that was pretty much it. He's still an exciting player at times, but just a combination of things. He would likely have done better served going to a spread offense and running the wildcat, but hindsight is 20/20. I'm glad to have him as a leader, a recruiter and an ambassador for the program, but, at the end of the day, a lot of talent was left untapped and on the table.
Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
19068 posts
Posted on 10/18/12 at 12:32 pm to
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Same reason Debose didn't.


I thought he was injured his Fr season and now has attitude issues.

I don't think RS has missed games due to injuries and his attitude has been upbeat.

He needs to be in an O that plays a faster pace and since '08 that ain't us.
Posted by UAFanFromNOLA
NOLA
Member since Dec 2011
4882 posts
Posted on 10/18/12 at 12:34 pm to
I kind of see parallels to Blake Sims. Guys who are very athletic but never found a position and were passed up by others who developed at one spot. I'm sure they worked hard and were being team players, but they were given a bit of a handicap because of limited experience and having to learn new positions.
Posted by LsuTool
Member since Oct 2009
35475 posts
Posted on 10/18/12 at 12:37 pm to
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yeah i dont know why people think he is just loaded with talent.


never underestimate how much those 5 golden stars next to a players name means to some fans.
Posted by jrich11
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2010
993 posts
Posted on 10/18/12 at 12:37 pm to
he went to the coaches and said he wanted to play wr in 09. that set him back. we were still throwing it a lot back then.

in 10, we switched to more of a run first offense and a lot of zone read with jj. lookin back, he wouldve been perfect for that offense but it was too late.
Posted by Hugo Stiglitz
Member since Oct 2010
72937 posts
Posted on 10/18/12 at 12:40 pm to
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yeah i dont know why people think he is just loaded with talent.

This video was enough to convince me.
Posted by Billy Mays
Member since Jan 2009
25504 posts
Posted on 10/18/12 at 12:42 pm to
Did Les ever let him throw a pass in a game?
Posted by GonzoLeslie
Alabama
Member since Sep 2011
3695 posts
Posted on 10/18/12 at 12:43 pm to
offensive playcalling IMO

Career: 92 carries - 661 yards = 7.2 ypcarry
2012 : 8 carries - 106 yards = 13.3

Career: 58 catches - 570 yards = 9.8 ypcatch
2012 : 6 catches - 92 yards = 15.3

So, yards per touch:
Career: 8.2 yards (150 touches)
2012: 14.1 yards (14 touches)


They've failed to get him involved. I'd like to see him get more carries and screens this year (and throw a fricking pass).
He has been good on Spec Teams so far though
This post was edited on 10/18/12 at 12:44 pm
Posted by Hugo Stiglitz
Member since Oct 2010
72937 posts
Posted on 10/18/12 at 12:44 pm to
quote:

Did Les ever let him throw a pass in a game?

not yet.
Posted by LsuTool
Member since Oct 2009
35475 posts
Posted on 10/18/12 at 12:48 pm to
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They've failed to get him involved. I'd like to see him get more carries and screens this year (and throw a fricking pass).


lucky for him, drops and TFL aren't listed.
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