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re: LSU dodged a bullet with Herman, considered complete failure after 1 year

Posted on 11/28/17 at 5:45 pm to
Posted by Old Sarge
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Posted on 11/28/17 at 5:45 pm to
Urban had to rebuild

Herman’s cake was already baked
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
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Posted on 11/28/17 at 5:47 pm to
Saban went 7-6 w/a home loss to ULM in year one at Alabama.
Posted by scrooster
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Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 11/28/17 at 5:47 pm to
Whew ... that was an even closer disaster for SC IMHO.

Retrospectively speaking he would have been horrible here. He totally sucked donkey balls at Texas this year whereas Boom has his guys playing hard and improving daily since he arrived.
Posted by OKtiger
Tulsa, OK
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 11/28/17 at 5:48 pm to
why is this on the SEC rant?

what if he makes a turnaround similar to what Kirby did from season 1 to season 2?

Would you mind if I bump this to make you look like a complete fool?
Posted by OKtiger
Tulsa, OK
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 11/28/17 at 5:48 pm to
quote:

Saban went 7-6 w/a home loss to ULM in year one at Alabama.


Kirby's first year was terrible as well
Posted by BrerTiger
Valley of the Long Grey Cloud
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 11/28/17 at 5:49 pm to
quote:


LSU dodged a bullet with Herman, considered complete failure after 1 year
We should learn from this, we may get Fisher but what if he is a complete laughing stock like Herman after year one?


I feel like this is all one long troll.

Nah...

At any rate, yes it's a crap shoot.

If it weren't, then every school would have been bidding for Saban's services when he was still struggling to lose less than 5 games a year at Michigan State.

There are no sure bets. And even great coaches can't fix every mess they find themselves in. Some of them are great because they learned what *doesn't* work the hard way.
Posted by Old Sarge
Dean of Admissions, LSU
Member since Jan 2012
55319 posts
Posted on 11/28/17 at 5:49 pm to
This thread is about SEC coaching change and near misses


It’s not going to happen

Posted by A LeBlanc
St. Landry Parish
Member since Apr 2017
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Posted on 11/28/17 at 5:49 pm to
I guess A&M just needs to invest some more money into their football program
Posted by Old Sarge
Dean of Admissions, LSU
Member since Jan 2012
55319 posts
Posted on 11/28/17 at 5:50 pm to
Well we are richer that you and we have 100x better facilities
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
80294 posts
Posted on 11/28/17 at 5:53 pm to
quote:

We were all laughing at Urban after his first year at Florida


Didn't he go 9-3 his first year at Florida?
Posted by labamafan
Prairieville
Member since Jan 2007
24264 posts
Posted on 11/28/17 at 5:57 pm to
That's what's wrong with everything today. Not just a stupid game like football but everything. No one can wait for anything. Delayed gratification is lost in this generation and society. One year and he's a failure. Fantastic reasoning.
Posted by salty1
Member since Jun 2015
4430 posts
Posted on 11/28/17 at 5:59 pm to
Good topic Sarge. I, personally, never wanted Herman. I saw Herman as a "potential" good coach, while Fisher was a proven good coach. Herman needed to demonstrate, in a major conference, that he could win consistently...he still hasn't done that. In my opinion, there was no comparison, Fisher was/is a better option than Herman. Also, given the two options (Herman vs. Oeaux), I believe that Oeaux was the much safer bet.

I'll hang up now and listen to the negatigers tell me again about Oeaux's failures at Ole Miss...
This post was edited on 11/28/17 at 6:01 pm
Posted by A LeBlanc
St. Landry Parish
Member since Apr 2017
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Posted on 11/28/17 at 6:00 pm to
Yet A&M is still horrible at football.

Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
80294 posts
Posted on 11/28/17 at 6:05 pm to
quote:

Yet A&M is still horrible at football.


Let's look at two teams since Alabama won the 2009 National Title.

Team 1:

52-48 record
4 losing seasons (possibly a 5th)
0 division championships
0 conference championships
2-2 bowl record
1 top 25 finish

Team 2:

67-36 record
0 losing seasons
1 shared division championship
0 conference championships
4-3 bowl record
3 top 25 finishes
1 top 5 finish

According to you, team 2 is HORRIBLE. If team 2 is horrible, what is team 1?
Posted by pbro62
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2016
11382 posts
Posted on 11/28/17 at 6:05 pm to
#2 recruiting class.
Posted by Gatorbait2008
Member since Aug 2015
22953 posts
Posted on 11/28/17 at 6:06 pm to
It's the first year and TExas was bad off when he got there.

What was Saban's record his first year at Bama?

To soon to tell.
Posted by A LeBlanc
St. Landry Parish
Member since Apr 2017
1191 posts
Posted on 11/28/17 at 6:06 pm to
Aggy has screwed their chance to ever catch Texas.
Problem is as you see here a lot of A&M fans live in a self created world that A&M somehow is a superior university.

A&M was afraid of Tom Herman and that is why Sumlin was put under pressure this year but Herman was not able to turn around Texas in his first year so A&M has to capitalize on another opportunity.

That is where Jimbo Fisher comes in. From all reports A&M has crapped the bed with Fisher.

Where does that leave A&M?

Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
80294 posts
Posted on 11/28/17 at 6:07 pm to
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From all reports


Link all credible reports.

Here's a hint: Geoff Ketchum, Chip Brown, Jean-Jaques Taylor, and the Daily Herald are not credible sources on A&M.
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 11/28/17 at 6:07 pm to
Judging a HC after year one.
Posted by A LeBlanc
St. Landry Parish
Member since Apr 2017
1191 posts
Posted on 11/28/17 at 6:09 pm to
Issue there is that you cannot change over 100 years of history in these past 8 years.

No matter how you attempt to justify your claim A&M did not take advantage of the last 7 years of horrible football at Texas.

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