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re: Let's talk OU and the SEC
Posted on 10/15/24 at 4:10 pm to Mexican Martini
Posted on 10/15/24 at 4:10 pm to Mexican Martini
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They were damn good for 20+ years and are now in the wilderness. They could be down for 10ish years.
This is a long-standing whorn fantasy that isn't going to happen.
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Posted on 10/15/24 at 4:12 pm to n64ra
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Sooners are going to be down for several years like the 90s
Case in point!
This is just a deranged whorn fantasy based on their own long-term failures.
Posted on 10/15/24 at 4:13 pm to CharlotteSooner
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This is just a deranged whorn fantasy based on their own long-term failures.
90’s weren’t exactly kinda to sooner football.
Posted on 10/15/24 at 4:14 pm to PapaDunk
It's not the 90s. Keep dreaming....
Posted on 10/15/24 at 4:15 pm to CharlotteSooner
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It's not the 90s. Keep dreaming....
You’re right…y’all are doing great.
Posted on 10/15/24 at 4:17 pm to okietiger
Let's just take it one game at a time.
OU fans, boosters, and the personnel calling the shots will force Brent out the door after next season if nothing changes for the better. Brent has at least 4 years.
Right now, I'm over the Texas game and looking forward to South Carolina.
OU fans, boosters, and the personnel calling the shots will force Brent out the door after next season if nothing changes for the better. Brent has at least 4 years.
Right now, I'm over the Texas game and looking forward to South Carolina.
This post was edited on 10/15/24 at 4:19 pm
Posted on 10/15/24 at 4:23 pm to PapaDunk
We'll be fine.
You better worry about losing your entire team after this year and having to start over next season. You'll be in the same boat.
You better worry about losing your entire team after this year and having to start over next season. You'll be in the same boat.
Posted on 10/15/24 at 4:26 pm to OU_Fan
All we have heard is these bold SEC predictions of OU regret. 
Posted on 10/15/24 at 4:59 pm to CharlotteSooner
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We'll be fine.
This is what I wanna hear.
Posted on 10/15/24 at 5:06 pm to okietiger
This is just DUMB.
Oklahoma doesn't have a quarterback nor any starter quality WRs.
If they do than they wouldn't even know it know because their most talented prospect, Jackson Arnold, is on the bench.
They are a much more physical and talented team on defense than LSU though and their problems on offense can be fixed in one good portal season.
Bring in a proven quarterback and some wideouts since you've probably already alienated Arnold.
Oklahoma doesn't have a quarterback nor any starter quality WRs.
If they do than they wouldn't even know it know because their most talented prospect, Jackson Arnold, is on the bench.
They are a much more physical and talented team on defense than LSU though and their problems on offense can be fixed in one good portal season.
Bring in a proven quarterback and some wideouts since you've probably already alienated Arnold.
This post was edited on 10/15/24 at 5:07 pm
Posted on 10/15/24 at 5:20 pm to okietiger
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I also do wonder if this season would be different with a healthy OL and/or not losing WR 1-5. Maybe the results would be the same?
Lets add a 5* QB who bombed out and our best RB out for concussion protocol and a few defenders out for season from injuries to boot. Add in an incompetent OC who is not calling plays to help his QBs.
You do that to any team and its going to be just as bad. And of course any logical person knows pre season record predictions are made on all of the above playing and contributing so those predictions have no bearing on tough this or SEC that.
Give us all those players all season and its a different team.
Its impossible to say SEC had anything to do with it at this point. We all knew SEC was going to be harder in fact most fans had 9-3 as predictions, even though last year had 2 losses before bowl. The 9-3 predictions were pre bowl as well and looked at going 5-3 in conf.
But now we’ll be lucky to make a bowl game. Any sane fan knows you need healthy players to win games, and we don’t have them. Plus complimentary football helps your D as well, so the whole team suffers by so many injuries.
I hope OU is getting a volume discount in medical costs.
Posted on 10/15/24 at 5:32 pm to OU Guy
How did Arnold bomb out?
He had a bad outing against the best defensive line in the country as a freshman.
Venerables made a way too hasty decision benching him for looks like the entire season at this point.
Just threw him away for guy who's ceiling is a dink and dunker who can scramble a bit.
He had a bad outing against the best defensive line in the country as a freshman.
Venerables made a way too hasty decision benching him for looks like the entire season at this point.
Just threw him away for guy who's ceiling is a dink and dunker who can scramble a bit.
This post was edited on 10/15/24 at 5:33 pm
Posted on 10/15/24 at 5:39 pm to PoundTheRock
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How did Arnold bomb out?
He had a bad outing against the best defensive line in the country as a freshman.
Venerables made a way too hasty decision benching him for looks like the entire season at this point.
Just threw him away for guy who's ceiling is a dink and dunker who can scramble a bit.
And I can tell you watch 0 OU football.
JA was bad all year even our cupcake games.
It was reported in fall camp that he struggled and Hawkins was doing better. There was even a thread here about it. It was chalked up to D being way ahead. But he regressed.
Hawkins outscored Tenn in 2nd half when he came in as a true freshman. Then went and beat Aub on road. But our OC had a crap game plan vs tx.
QB can only do so much. But if OC reduces RPO he can speed up decision tree and help his QB. Yet he didn’t do that.
We’ll get better this season as some players come back. And my guess is JA portals. He’s a good QB but completely lost it mentally for some reason. I doubt he can get it back here.
Posted on 10/15/24 at 6:25 pm to okietiger
Oklahoma is going to be the equivalent of Ole Miss in the SEC.
Posted on 10/15/24 at 6:53 pm to PoundTheRock
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ow did Arnold bomb out?
He had a bad outing against the best defensive line in the country as a freshman.
Venerables made a way too hasty decision benching him for looks like the entire season at this point.
Just threw him away for guy who's ceiling is a dink and dunker who can scramble a bit.
sorry buddy but if u think it was because of what Tenn did to him your crazy.... he had bad games leading up to that game and him throwing the ball 2 yards behind a wr and the los isnt something Tenn caused. The int pick 6 was. Wasnt anything Tenn caused it was alot of different events thats caused him to be benched.
This post was edited on 10/15/24 at 6:55 pm
Posted on 10/15/24 at 7:58 pm to HorninHouston
Swap a couple of the games on the OU and Texas schedules, and they're probably both 9-3, 8-4. Texas is a good team benefiting from playing most of the bottom half of the conference. OU is a middle of the pack team playing most of the top half of the conference.
OU's first SEC game was Tennessee followed immediately by a trip to the plains.
Texas' first game was Moo St and you don't play a true SEC road game until the end of October @Vandy.
Oh, sorry to actually discuss your joke of a schedule.
You've played one SEC game. Against Miss St.
OU's first SEC game was Tennessee followed immediately by a trip to the plains.
Texas' first game was Moo St and you don't play a true SEC road game until the end of October @Vandy.
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I can't wait to see what the next narrative is
Oh, sorry to actually discuss your joke of a schedule.
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we will be just fine
You've played one SEC game. Against Miss St.
Posted on 10/15/24 at 8:06 pm to okietiger
It’s the SEC, we almost all suffer devastation on the injury front. We’ve lost 5 of our front 7, 2 starters last week alone. Depth or death. Welcome to the SEC.
Posted on 10/15/24 at 8:56 pm to gaius julius bevo
quote:Yes and no...
I have no real insight into the OU program, but I wonder if they just need to re-dedicate to the offense that won them many games and championships in the Big 12?
Would a fully optimised Air Raid work in the SEC, assuming OU can continue to bring in their top 15-ish classes?
Yes, you're going to get wins. No, you're not going to win the SEC with it. Full Air Raid/quick strike offense will expose your defense more, and they're going to wear down.
SEC has too many teams that load up with talent (well above that "top 15ish" slot you mention) that can withstand a big passing attack, and then keep pounding away with their own offense in return. In the Big 12, you had Texas, maybe 1-2 others occasionally that could do so(say TCU or Baylor in good years).
In the SEC, you're talking Alabama, Georgia, LSU, Tennessee, and A&M (as well as Texas). Then currently you add Ole Miss, you should expect Auburn and Florida when they recover, Kentucky at least defensively, and then teams like South Carolina and Mizzou that will occasionally elevate. And that's not taking into account teams like Miss State, that you will outscore comfortably, but usually with a solid defense and run game that will leave your team with some bumps and bruises after playing them.
Posted on 10/15/24 at 9:01 pm to okietiger
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I'm a Tiger fan living in Norman.
Why would any self-respecting Mizzou fan live in Norman?
Posted on 10/15/24 at 9:06 pm to genuineLSUtiger
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Oklahoma is going to be the equivalent of Ole Miss in the SEC.
on a good day
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