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Let's talk OU and the SEC
Posted on 10/15/24 at 9:41 am
Posted on 10/15/24 at 9:41 am
I'm a Tiger fan living in Norman. I can see the stadium from son's room upstairs. So I hear any and all things about the program from friends and family. SEC logos adorn Norman, everywhere you look.
I heard lots of 10-2, 9-3, etc. predictions coming in to the season. Tons of cautious optimism...
I tried to warn them.
Now, I also see lots of comparisons of OU to Nebraska. That's a bit silly. OU has recruited Texas as well as any school in the country over the last 20 years. It's closer to DFW than Austin, and a much easier drive. They're not going to be Nebraska, however it appears they are more than capable of popping out a random 6-6, 7-5 season; which is where they likely will end up this year.
I also do wonder if this season would be different with a healthy OL and/or not losing WR 1-5. Maybe the results would be the same?
Going to be very interesting to see where their program goes.
I heard lots of 10-2, 9-3, etc. predictions coming in to the season. Tons of cautious optimism...
I tried to warn them.
Now, I also see lots of comparisons of OU to Nebraska. That's a bit silly. OU has recruited Texas as well as any school in the country over the last 20 years. It's closer to DFW than Austin, and a much easier drive. They're not going to be Nebraska, however it appears they are more than capable of popping out a random 6-6, 7-5 season; which is where they likely will end up this year.
I also do wonder if this season would be different with a healthy OL and/or not losing WR 1-5. Maybe the results would be the same?
Going to be very interesting to see where their program goes.
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Posted on 10/15/24 at 9:44 am to okietiger
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Going to be very interesting to see where their program goes.
They're going to be fine long term and will have their playoff seasons. Their 2024 team just isn't very good.
Posted on 10/15/24 at 9:45 am to okietiger
From somebody who doesn't have much of any inside knowledge of their program it seems like they have catastrophic issues at the 2 biggest places on the field on offense - QB and OL. If you are below average to bad in those 2 spots, I'm not sure anything else really matters.
Their defense is good, they are recruiting well, but there is no path to winning more than 6-7 games in this league if you can't block anybody and you don't have a competent QB. Throw in the WR injuries and they have very little shot outside of their defense being all-time good, which it isn't (it's very solid, but it's not good enough to completely carry the team).
Just have to grit your teeth, hope you can steal a few wins to get to 7-5 and fix the OL issue for next year (the young QB seems like something you can work with).
Their defense is good, they are recruiting well, but there is no path to winning more than 6-7 games in this league if you can't block anybody and you don't have a competent QB. Throw in the WR injuries and they have very little shot outside of their defense being all-time good, which it isn't (it's very solid, but it's not good enough to completely carry the team).
Just have to grit your teeth, hope you can steal a few wins to get to 7-5 and fix the OL issue for next year (the young QB seems like something you can work with).
Posted on 10/15/24 at 9:47 am to okietiger
As soon as I saw the Oklahoma's schedule I figured it was a 6-6 season for the Sooners. Still on track for that if OU can beat SC East this week.
Posted on 10/15/24 at 9:47 am to okietiger
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Now, I also see lots of comparisons of OU to Nebraska.
See Tennessee for almost a decade and Florida without Dan Mullen.
Posted on 10/15/24 at 9:47 am to okietiger
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Let's talk OU and the SEC
Posted on 10/15/24 at 9:48 am to SummerOfGeorge
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From somebody who doesn't have much of any inside knowledge of their program it seems like they have catastrophic issues at the 2 biggest places on the field on offense - QB and OL. If you are below average to bad in those 2 spots, I'm not sure anything else really matters.
Yep and throw in basically all wideout threats, not gonna be fun.
I know this kinda stuff gets weird on a message board, but the rumor is the team really didn't like Arnold. Huge divide. Supposedly acted like he walked on water.
And boy, running off Gabriel looks pretty dumb right now. Although I'm not sure he'd be doing much better with this OL and the WR injuries but couldn't be worse.
Posted on 10/15/24 at 9:50 am to okietiger
Texas having it's early SEC honeymoon à la Missouri...
(it won't end well either)
(it won't end well either)
Posted on 10/15/24 at 9:52 am to okietiger
I have no real insight into the OU program, but I wonder if they just need to re-dedicate to the offense that won them many games and championships in the Big 12?
Would a fully optimised Air Raid work in the SEC, assuming OU can continue to bring in their top 15-ish classes?
Would a fully optimised Air Raid work in the SEC, assuming OU can continue to bring in their top 15-ish classes?
Posted on 10/15/24 at 9:52 am to JacieNY
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As soon as I saw the Oklahoma's schedule I figured it was a 6-6 season for the Sooners. Still on track for that if OU can beat SC East this week.
I had em at 7-5 and most of buddies up here laughed at me.
Posted on 10/15/24 at 9:54 am to okietiger
I don't think giving DG the opportunity to play for a championship contender can be considered "running him off".
Posted on 10/15/24 at 9:55 am to gaius julius bevo
They need a new OC. I suspect BV will continue to get dudes on defense since he's pumped so many out to the NFL while at Clemson.
Posted on 10/15/24 at 9:56 am to 19
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Texas having it's early SEC honeymoon à la Missouri...
(it won't end well either)
"Texas won't be a .500 team in the sec"
"Texas is lucky the SEC is down"
"Texas having it's early SEC honeymoon à la Missouri...
(it won't end well either)"
I can't wait to see what the next narrative is
We will be fine. No we're not going to dominate the SEC ala Saban but we will be just fine.
Posted on 10/15/24 at 9:57 am to JacieNY
SC's performance last week gives me some hope that OU can beat bama late in the season. It comes down to the offense improving slightly and getting Burks back, maybe some of the other wideouts.
Posted on 10/15/24 at 9:58 am to okietiger
OU is finally in reset mode. They were damn good for 20+ years and are now in the wilderness. They could be down for 10ish years.
Posted on 10/15/24 at 10:00 am to okietiger
I live in Oklahoma as well and it is hilarious that you wouldn't even know it's Fall and football season. Between OU staring at 5-7 losses and the Cowboys sucking, I think they are genuinely depressed and counting down the days to the start of the softball season.
Posted on 10/15/24 at 10:00 am to JacieNY
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I don't think giving DG the opportunity to play for a championship contender can be considered "running him off".
No one on the OU side really sat down with Gabriel and told him their plans. That's my impression anyway. When Lebby left for MSU, it would have been good to tell Gabriel, hey since the NFL eval came back low, I hope you come back for a last season as a Sooner and we have a nice $$$ package for you and you'll have every opportunity to contend for the Heisman and maybe up your draft stock. You are our guy and we want to win right now with you.
Instead, Gabriel (per his own words) didn't want Jackson Arnold, OU's 5 star future, to potentially transfer out and hurt the school he had grown to love.
It just didn't seem like anyone told Gabriel where he stood with the program and where he was as a priority for them.
Posted on 10/15/24 at 10:05 am to Mexican Martini
That is how long it took and three coaches between Switzer and Stoops.
The hope is Venables who looks at least on par with Gibbs won't lead to a replacement as bad as Schnellenberger or Blake.
The hope is Venables who looks at least on par with Gibbs won't lead to a replacement as bad as Schnellenberger or Blake.
Posted on 10/15/24 at 10:07 am to okietiger
quote:Venables is a career ACC guy at a Big 12 program. So the program’s a fish out of water at the moment.
Let's talk OU and the SEC
Posted on 10/15/24 at 10:10 am to okietiger
No one ran off DG
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