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re: Les Miles on schedule disadvantage

Posted on 7/18/13 at 11:09 am to
Posted by spacewrangler
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Posted on 7/18/13 at 11:09 am to
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Well if we had played Bama's schedule last year there's a good chance we would have won the BCSCG so that's a start


But you lost to Bama so Bama goes ahead due to the tie breaker.

Not once has LSU been screwed by the east schedule when they Beat Bama.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 7/18/13 at 11:09 am to
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no, and from all accounts it favors LSU


even if true that's still 2 shitty schedules to 1 decent one
Posted by bona fide
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Posted on 7/18/13 at 11:10 am to
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If LSU had won 1 or 2 of those NC's, Bama would NOT have 3 of 4.


umm
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 7/18/13 at 11:10 am to
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But you lost to Bama so Bama goes ahead due to the tie breaker.


Not if you lose to Florida we don't
Posted by sarc
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Posted on 7/18/13 at 11:12 am to
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UGA was supposed to still be playing yall this year. Why didnt yall pick them up?


We were supposed to play them in '12 but got bumped for Mizzou. In '13 everyone rotates to the cross-division opponent they last played in '09. If they had tried to make-up Bama/UGA and UF/Ole Miss in '13, then you've got 4 teams in a different part of the rotation than the other teams. They chose to keep all the teams in the same part of the rotation though personally I would rather play UGA than UK

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Why do we have to stick with our rotation of USC and UGA instead of getting Mizzou?


1 in 6 chance every year
Posted by Adam Banks
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Posted on 7/18/13 at 11:13 am to
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Well if we had played Bama's schedule last year there's a good chance we would have won the BCSCG so that's a start.


that's only assuming bama loses two


.500 in the SEC regular season vs top ten teams. No game they had against top tens gave any inclination that they were head and shoulders above any. Hell against the worst of them all (UGA) they needed Uga to Richt it up. Playing 4 games in 5 weeks against the SECs best gets you nicked up. Its the difference between having your team full go in the last minute and angles getting poor. Its the difference between having your 5 o line startes go the distance and losing 3/5 at different points. It takes a toll.
Posted by spacewrangler
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Posted on 7/18/13 at 11:14 am to
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Not if you lose to Florida we don't


Bama would've curb stomped UF last year.

Plus LSU might have lost to MiZzo, they were predicted by some to win the east and were ahead if UF preseason.
Posted by Monticello
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Posted on 7/18/13 at 11:14 am to
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Well if we had played Bama's schedule last year there's a good chance we would have won the BCSCG so that's a start.


Really? Please explain. I would love to hear this.

Let's assume LSU beats UT and Mizzou (pretty safe to assume) and therefore does not have the loss to Florida. That puts LSU as an 11-1 team at the end of the regular season along with Alabama. Alabama beat LSU head to head and therefore Alabama still plays in the SEC title game and national title game.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 7/18/13 at 11:15 am to
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It's one of those things that's impossible to know


exactly, and its impossible to know for sure who is going ot be good and who isn't over a 10-12 year cycle, or really from one year to the next. All you can do is rotate evenly. some teams are going to easy schedules some aren't some years.

All the bitching about the bridge schedule is one year of play and as some might say hindsight is 50/50 , many thought mizzou was going to be good. and who knows whats in store for 2013, it hasn't been played
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 7/18/13 at 11:16 am to
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even if true that's still 2 shitty schedules to 1 decent one

there are more teams in the SEC than LSU, FWIW
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 7/18/13 at 11:16 am to
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Let's assume LSU beats UT and Mizzou (pretty safe to assume) and therefore does not have the loss to Florida. That puts LSU as an 11-1 team at the end of the regular season along with Alabama. Alabama beat LSU head to head and therefore Alabama still plays in the SEC title game and national title game.



that assumes you beat Florida which is no lock.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 7/18/13 at 11:16 am to
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Plus LSU might have lost to MiZzo


Posted by Adam Banks
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Posted on 7/18/13 at 11:18 am to
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that assumes you beat Florida which is no lock.


Nope winning two in miracle fashion and getting their arse handed to them the one time they had to play back to back games assures everyone that they would have run the table.
Posted by Nuts4LSU
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Posted on 7/18/13 at 11:18 am to
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But you lost to Bama so Bama goes ahead due to the tie breaker.

Not once has LSU been screwed by the east schedule when they Beat Bama.


We were in 2006, when we beat Arkansas.

But of course you are intentionally ignoring the fact that playing the same schedule would only even the playing field, but giving LSU the advantage that Bama has would likely have given us the title. Let us skate by a pathetic Tennessee while you lose a tough road game at UF or UGa, and we win the division. Now what do you think are the chances that the SEC would EVER let that happen?

And Bama would be bitching to high heaven, just like they did a couple of years ago because too many teams had bye weeks before they played them, and just like Saban is now because teams play up-tempo offense and don't give him time to make all the defensive substitutions he wants. Bama always bitches at the slightest thing that doesn't go their way, but then they get all offended when someone else objects to getting screwed over repeatedly.
This post was edited on 7/18/13 at 11:19 am
Posted by Monticello
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Posted on 7/18/13 at 11:19 am to
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If LSU had won 1 or 2 of those NC's, Bama would NOT have 3 of 4.


Exactly what years between 09,11, and 12 would LSU have won the national title? 09 LSU sucked, 11 LSU had the chance to win a national title and lost it 21-0 and 12 LSU could not beat Alabama, Florida, or Clemson. So SEC scheduling had nothing to do with LSU not winning a national title in any of those seasons.
Posted by narddogg81
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Posted on 7/18/13 at 11:20 am to
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"I think we may be the only team that can play this schedule year after year and do as well as we do!"


Posted by Jobu93
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Posted on 7/18/13 at 11:20 am to
LSU would have beaten Oklahoma State.
Posted by spacewrangler
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Posted on 7/18/13 at 11:20 am to
Mizzo scored more vs UF than LSU did and held them to the same total. Both played the game in the swamp. It's not a given that LSU would beat Mizzo based on the UF game.
Posted by PortCityTiger82
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Posted on 7/18/13 at 11:21 am to
There are many more factors in play than that. If you play tougher teams then you tend to lose players to injury and such. We know its not Bamas fault that the schedule is the way it is. The schedule is unbalanced and the SEC needs to get it right. Its as simple as that. All the arguing and finger pointing is unnecessary. They have a problem and they need to admit it and address it
Posted by Monticello
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Posted on 7/18/13 at 11:21 am to
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Not if you lose to Florida we don't


I highly doubt Alabama loses to Florida. I guess we would never know, just like we don't know that Miles would not make some huge coaching error and lose to UT or Mizzou like he did against Ole Miss and should have against UT a few years ago.
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