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re: Lawmaker Thinks Cam Newton Is Transgender, Then Gay

Posted on 2/17/21 at 8:30 am to
Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
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Posted on 2/17/21 at 8:30 am to
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Rogers was speaking during a hearing on HB35

When I saw this, I knew exactly who the rep would be without even reading the rest of his name or where he was from.

Also, it looks like this story is from last year.
This post was edited on 2/17/21 at 8:31 am
Posted by paperwasp
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Posted on 2/17/21 at 9:24 am to
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It is basic common sense that this is a mental disorder

This has nothing to do with sports, but there is/was a mental disorder called gender identity disorder until recently, when that terminology was changed because of the stigma associated with it.

IIRC, the treatment has historically been to allow one to express a different gender, even through surgery. The goal of this treatment was to help them alleviate the distress of the condition.

In other words, the fantasy of becoming another gender is not real, nor has science said that it is. It is a disorder, and clinicians prefer to pretend to let them live out this fantasy as treatment, because it is supposed to help their mental well-being.
Posted by Old Money
Member since Sep 2012
36353 posts
Posted on 2/17/21 at 9:30 am to
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I don't think it's that simple. Your example is one that is physically harmful, while being transgender isn't. It's a disorder in your world view, but not theirs.


I have a close friend who is trans. Let me tell you why it is harmful. You hate yourself, you constantly have suicidal thoughts because your brain doesn't believe/accept you were born what you are. It is a very hard and depressing life where you spend tend of thousands to mutilate yourself to become the opposite gender between surgery and hormone altering medications. You can't have a normal relationship because people either run away or fetishize you, you have to "settle" for an accepting (generally ugly/depressing) partner. Nothing about being trans is normal besides it is a disorder that has been around forever and will continue to be around forever.

Some people pass until they're like 30, but eventually you become a harry old man pretending to be a woman (or the other way around). No one wants to be that.
This post was edited on 2/17/21 at 9:33 am
Posted by bamameister
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Posted on 2/17/21 at 9:39 am to
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In other words, the fantasy of becoming another gender is not real, nor has science said that it is. It is a disorder, and clinicians prefer to pretend to let them live out this fantasy as treatment, because it is supposed to help their mental well-being.


That's pretty much how therapists settle most emotional imbalances these days. If you weren't blaming your problems on your sub-conscience feelings when you went in, you will be, going out. We are living in a no-fault world and I suspect it's creating more problems than it solves.
Posted by Eli Goldfinger
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 2/17/21 at 9:42 am to
Gender Dysphoria, I think.
Posted by bigDgator
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 2/17/21 at 9:53 am to
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A serial killer has victims. It's not that complicated to see the difference dumbass.

The rest of your post is just as dumb. You want to talk about morality, but it's really just you pushing your own social standards. It's not different than people who want to force standards like baking gay cakes on people. None of you stupid fricks deserve freedom because you're too ignorant to understand it.



The victim always ends up being my time and my wallet.






Posted by DocYates
Member since Oct 2015
616 posts
Posted on 2/17/21 at 10:24 am to
God made men and God made women. Liberals created the rest of the genders.
Posted by forestwhitackersgood
Dallas
Member since Jun 2019
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Posted on 2/17/21 at 10:44 am to
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I don't really care what he does, it's 2021 and who gives a shite.

But that would explain some things.



Well it's pretty disgusting... You know the whole Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve thing...
That said, I don't think he has any sugar in his tank.... I think he's just weird af..
Posted by BHMKyle
Birmingham, AL
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 2/17/21 at 10:47 am to
The most alarming part of this is that someone that uninformed has been elected to a civic office.
Posted by Robot Santa
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 2/17/21 at 10:52 am to
I mean, Cam comes about as close to outright cross-dressing as you can get without actually doing it, but I don't think he's gay or thinks he's a woman or anything. He probably just got into shrooms and acid at some point either at Auburn or early on during his pro career, but unlike most hippies he isn't some vagrant hobo living in a van and actually has the money to indulge all of his weird, psychedelic fueled impulses.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
22668 posts
Posted on 2/17/21 at 12:00 pm to
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I have a close friend who is trans. Let me tell you why it is harmful. You hate yourself, you constantly have suicidal thoughts because your brain doesn't believe/accept you were born what you are. It is a very hard and depressing life where you spend tend of thousands to mutilate yourself to become the opposite gender between surgery and hormone altering medications. You can't have a normal relationship because people either run away or fetishize you, you have to "settle" for an accepting (generally ugly/depressing) partner. Nothing about being trans is normal besides it is a disorder that has been around forever and will continue to be around forever.

Some people pass until they're like 30, but eventually you become a harry old man pretending to be a woman (or the other way around). No one wants to be that.


You're mostly describing the results of them not being accepted and people saying they have a disorder.

How would suggest "fixing" your friend?
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
22668 posts
Posted on 2/17/21 at 12:00 pm to
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The victim always ends up being my time and my wallet.



What?
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
22668 posts
Posted on 2/17/21 at 12:22 pm to
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No healthy society needs people to have the "freedom" to destroy yourself and your body and increase your risk of suicide by orders of magnitude in the name of the insane delusion that a man is a woman. This is just antisocial misanthropy.


The increased risk of suicide is because of how they are treated by the population. Treatment you and others on this forum are defending and pushing.

Much like other similiar topics, such as gay people, the suicide rates lower the more accepting society is of their choices.

I just have to wonder why it's such a big deal for some people. It doesn't affect me if people identify as whatever.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
22668 posts
Posted on 2/17/21 at 12:26 pm to
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I don't know, maybe the fact that the correlation between transgenderism and severe mental illness and depressive disorders is like 100% and the suicide rates are astronomical?



Because of how they are treated by society and people using their own abuse as justification of that abuse.

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Or the fact that it is promoting a cult that results in scientists/doctors saying things like "breastfeeding might be unethical because it promotes gender roles"



Non sequitur.

Posted by Old Money
Member since Sep 2012
36353 posts
Posted on 2/17/21 at 12:58 pm to
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You're mostly describing the results of them not being accepted and people saying they have a disorder.


You are dead wrong on that. That is a result of them hating themselves for being born a man and their brain telling them they are not a man but a woman. It has 0 to do with society or people calling it a disorder. We can fully accept trans people and they still know deep down, they were born wrong. They don't have the right body parts and they never will. It is not on "us" as society, it's a them problem.

We all treat her normal, as do most people, but you cannot fix that level of self hatred. Therapy will only get you so far.

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How would suggest "fixing" your friend?


Being born with a different brain. It will never be fixed.
Posted by bamameister
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Posted on 2/17/21 at 1:01 pm to
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The increased risk of suicide is because of how they are treated by the population. Treatment you and others on this forum are defending and pushing.

Much like other similiar topics, such as gay people, the suicide rates lower the more accepting society is of their choices.

I just have to wonder why it's such a big deal for some people. It doesn't affect me if people identify as whatever.



They show up on TV shows now and again and frankly, they don't conduct themselves like they are suicidal. I suspect, like everything else, it's this constant push by folks of this persuasion to get the word out. The word at my house is I don't want to hear it on a personal level. If I have to hear it, the rebuttal won't be far away.
Posted by 3down10
Member since Sep 2014
22668 posts
Posted on 2/17/21 at 1:12 pm to
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They show up on TV shows now and again and frankly, they don't conduct themselves like they are suicidal. I suspect, like everything else, it's this constant push by folks of this persuasion to get the word out. The word at my house is I don't want to hear it on a personal level. If I have to hear it, the rebuttal won't be far away.


I agree with this mostly. I get annoyed by it and generally keep it out of my life.
Posted by skrayper
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Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 2/17/21 at 1:30 pm to
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Well it's pretty disgusting... You know the whole Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve thing...
That said, I don't think he has any sugar in his tank.... I think he's just weird af..



Jesus also said, "Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you."

Lot of people giddily ignore Him to scream about things that don't even remotely impact them.
Posted by skrayper
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Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 2/17/21 at 1:33 pm to
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You haven't really thought this out. A serial killer sees absolutely nothing wrong or out of the ordinary about their chosen way of life either. It's harmful to others but, not to them.


Comparing a person needing/wanting to change their gender to someone who kills people without remorse?

WTF is wrong with you? If this is the best argument you have on the subject, then you don't really have an argument at all.

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Morality is an old fashioned concept and anything goes because it's 2021 and we are much more civilized and intelligent than all humans in the history of mankind that have come before us, except for most auburn fans.


Morality is subjective. What you consider moral others may consider immoral.
Posted by saban n bear
Member since Aug 2013
2987 posts
Posted on 2/17/21 at 1:47 pm to
I have a source that claims the reason he didn’t jump on that fumble in the Super Bowl is because he thought it was a vagina.

There’s hidden audio on that play, and you can hear queer boy Cam say “Ewwwwwwww Yucky!”
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