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re: Lattimore, Jeffery want South Carolina to rename Strom Thurmond Wellness Center

Posted on 6/18/20 at 11:40 am to
Posted by PeeJayScammedGT
Kennesaw, GA
Member since Oct 2019
2148 posts
Posted on 6/18/20 at 11:40 am to
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Strom Thurmond (who had a black daughter), despite the chatter, was one of the most warm and engaging politicians of all time. As our culture cannibalizes itself, this Cultural Dissident just want to say that from personal experience. Now you may resume the destruction.
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Really?

Try explaining this rosy, Revisionist arse bullshite to folks that were on the wrong side of Thurmond's Segregationist policies and Government sponsored racism

Try putting yourself on the wrong side of Jim Crow Laws, the wrong side of Segregation and see how much you love the warmth of ol' Strom

This ain't about "culture wars", it is about balancing the scales of racial justice from years gone by

What's really sad, is that folks like you aren't asking the obvious question; "why did we allow a bigot's name to be placed on a Bldg in the first place, surely there had to be high achieving non bigots worthy of such an honor"?
Posted by Harry Morgan
Member since Sep 2019
9193 posts
Posted on 6/18/20 at 11:44 am to
You make no sense.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66503 posts
Posted on 6/18/20 at 11:50 am to
You don’t name a building After someone or build a statue of someone to remember as reminder. These are honors.

And I am not for every statue being dragged down, but should we be honoring segregationists? What else is Storm Thurmond known for?

George Washington- first President, lead the IS forces in the American revolution. Pretty big contributions beyond owning slaves.

Compare that to a statue of Jefferson Davis or Robert E Lee.
Posted by TigerOnTheMountain
Higher Elevation
Member since Oct 2014
41773 posts
Posted on 6/18/20 at 11:51 am to
I don’t disagree with Malcolm X entirely. We both hate the white liberal for example.
Posted by Murph4HOF
A-T-L-A-N-T-A (that's where I stay)
Member since Sep 2019
11136 posts
Posted on 6/18/20 at 11:53 am to
Lenin had another name for them:

useful idiots
Posted by MeatPants
Member since Nov 2015
8853 posts
Posted on 6/18/20 at 11:55 am to
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it is about balancing the scales of racial justice from years gone by


No it isn't. Most of this stuff is posturing, virtue signaling and other nonsense that ancillary to actually solving real problems or issues.

Right now its race to confirm your blackness or guilt depending what race you are. Get back to me when something is done that matters or a real leader emerges that people listen too. One that tells people what they need to hear not just what they want
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140424 posts
Posted on 6/18/20 at 11:59 am to
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is about balancing the scales of racial justice from years gone by



No it’s not. It’s about revenge.
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
36040 posts
Posted on 6/18/20 at 12:00 pm to
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What else is Storm Thurmond known for? 

Being a donor to and primary fundraiser for the very building his name is on.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66503 posts
Posted on 6/18/20 at 12:08 pm to
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Being a donor to and primary fundraiser for the very building his name is on.


Yeah doesn’t feel like that trumps you know being anti-civil rights, and a segregationist.

This post was edited on 6/18/20 at 12:10 pm
Posted by PeeJayScammedGT
Kennesaw, GA
Member since Oct 2019
2148 posts
Posted on 6/18/20 at 12:10 pm to
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No it isn't. Most of this stuff is posturing, virtue signaling and other nonsense that ancillary to actually solving real problems or issues.

Right now its race to confirm your blackness or guilt depending what race you are. Get back to me when something is done that matters or a real leader emerges that people listen too. One that tells people what they need to hear not just what they want

First of all, getting rid of these monuments to dirtbag, scumbag segregationists will finally allow the Country to approach AMERICAN HISTORY from an honest perspective, maybe by teaching American History in an open and fair manner that doesn't whitewash the sins of the past, many of them you think of as "great Americans

Examples like this one is why so many statues need to come down

Just maybe after we start teaching US History accurately, then we can move forward a build a race neutral or ethnic neutral society

After Edit: I just used the YT vid as an example, not to say that Thurmond was connected to the events, just an example of how History gets whitewashed
This post was edited on 6/18/20 at 12:33 pm
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
36040 posts
Posted on 6/18/20 at 12:13 pm to
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Yeah doesn’t feel like that trumps you know being anti-civil rights, and a segregationist. 

So let's go ahead and tear down every statue and monument honoring someone who lived prior to the Civil Rights era. Let's rename every building named after someone prior to the Civil Rights era.

MLK was a homophobe and an alleged rapist. Time for him to go. The Republican Party in 1860 supported deporting African slaves back to Africa. There goes Lincoln. Where does it end? Where does it stop?
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
78602 posts
Posted on 6/18/20 at 12:14 pm to
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was one of the most warm and engaging politicians of all time


That's all I said. I stand by that. He was warm and engaging. He actually LOVED at least two black people. Go figure. You know, the duality of man, life comes at you fast, and all that...

As for "racial segregation", "government sponsored racism",being on "the wrong side of Jim Crow Laws" etc.-THERE IS A REASON I DO NOT VOTE FOR DEMOCRATS. Learn your history Anger Baw.
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
73493 posts
Posted on 6/18/20 at 12:17 pm to
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PeeJayScammedGT


This moron is still here?
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66503 posts
Posted on 6/18/20 at 12:18 pm to
We should literally never stop evaluating our history.

There is a difference between living in pre civil war America and pre-civil rights America and living during the civil rights era and actively opposing it.

That’s Storm Thurmond legacy and it’s not accidental. He’s not allegedly against civil rights that was his platform.

And while everyone needs to be judged based on their times, he was was regressive and racist by 1950s standards.


Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
36040 posts
Posted on 6/18/20 at 12:20 pm to
When my grandfather passed away, Strom called my grandmother and spoke to her for 15 minutes after the funeral. He was a master of constituent service and got a higher percentage of the black vote than any Republican today because of it.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140424 posts
Posted on 6/18/20 at 12:21 pm to
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We should literally never stop evaluating our history.


Orwell was right.
Posted by amders44
Atlanta Metro
Member since Jun 2013
674 posts
Posted on 6/18/20 at 12:22 pm to
I say rename whatever buildings you would like, but if I was the son or grandson of the person that gave the money for the building so it could be named for them, I would demand the money back with interest. It probably would not get anywhere but the threat of a lawsuit might just cause a settlement.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66503 posts
Posted on 6/18/20 at 12:23 pm to
He may have been but quoting him to defend your own whitewashing of history is fricking moronic.

Posted by TT9
Global warming
Member since Sep 2008
82952 posts
Posted on 6/18/20 at 12:24 pm to
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He switched to the Republican party in the 1960s.
hmm, wonder why?
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
36040 posts
Posted on 6/18/20 at 12:28 pm to
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He may have been but quoting him to defend your own whitewashing of history is fricking moronic. 

What about the statues and monuments of antiquity that were built by slaves and stand as trophies to rulers and empires who committed unspeakable tragedies?

Let's tear down the pyramids, the Roman Colosseum, the Pantheon, the Great Wall of China and numerous others. I would also say the ancient city of Palmyra, but your statue-hating ideological cousins in ISIS already destroyed it because it offended the prophet.
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