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re: Last time Florida played a non conference road game outside of the state of Florida: 1991

Posted on 4/5/19 at 2:37 pm to
Posted by bigDgator
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 4/5/19 at 2:37 pm to
No they used to be called home and away, but now are normally referred to a home and home, which is stupid. It should be home and away for one team and away and home for the other unless it is home and neutral site or neutral site and home.
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Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 4/5/19 at 2:55 pm to
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No they used to be called home and away


Been listening/watching CFB since the late 70's and the term "home and home" has been used at least 90% of the time in print and radio/tv sports journalism.

Makes complete sense...just means each team get a home game and eliminates any confusion.
This post was edited on 4/5/19 at 2:57 pm
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 4/5/19 at 3:08 pm to
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They've been called "home and home" since I stated watching CFB in the '80's

Except for when they used "home and away" - which is what I remember.
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it makes complete sense.

Not really, there's no distinction. If you say home and home, it sounds like one team plays both games at home. If you say home and away, it sounds like a team will play one game at home, the other away. How are we supposed to know that one 'home' refers to one team, and the other 'home' refers to another team? It's not even implied. Suppose LSU signed Tech up to play two years in a row in Tiger Stadium. Would you refer to that as a "home and away" series to be consistent with the first term referring to one team and the second referring to the other team? I would think "home and home series" would best describe that situation.

It only makes sense to you because you've always heard it that way and know how to interpret it. If you're trying to explain it to someone who doesn't know anything about CFB, or sports in general (or to a foreigner, for example), it doesn't make any sense at all.
Posted by GatorBait24
Pensacola
Member since Jul 2016
5380 posts
Posted on 4/5/19 at 3:11 pm to
Florida fans still don’t care, we don’t have to leave the state to play a tough schedule cry me a river, and let me know when it keeps us out of the playoff, like we’ve had a shot at that anyway lately. This is dumb, and it’s not changing so suck it up buttercup.
This post was edited on 4/5/19 at 3:18 pm
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 4/5/19 at 3:12 pm to
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Makes complete sense...just means each team get a home game and eliminates any confusion.



Again, how would you refer to a two-game series at one team's stadium? Suppose UGA signed GSU to a two year series at Athens, how would you refer to that arrangement? Home and away?
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27297 posts
Posted on 4/5/19 at 3:23 pm to
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Again, how would you refer to a two-game series at one team's stadium?


It's just called a home series.Term as been used for ages with many different sports

When does this happen in CFB BTW?I cannot rememder the last time we ever played a 2 game series with the same team back to back.It used to Be somewhat frequent 40+ years ago but it rarely if ever happens now.

If its "so confusing" why is the term used by almost everyone in sports media?

Its really not that difficult to see the reasoning behind it.
This post was edited on 4/5/19 at 3:34 pm
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
54846 posts
Posted on 4/5/19 at 3:33 pm to
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Suppose UGA signed GSU to a two year series at Athens, how would you refer to that arrangement?

Home series
Posted by bigDgator
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2008
41214 posts
Posted on 4/5/19 at 3:36 pm to
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If its "so confusing" why is the term used by almost everyone in sports media?


So you are relying on the media for accuracy? Not a good policy imo.

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Home series


Is what they call it in baseball.
This post was edited on 4/5/19 at 3:38 pm
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
54846 posts
Posted on 4/5/19 at 3:36 pm to
Maybe it was once called home and away but today it’s called a home and home
LINK /
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
54846 posts
Posted on 4/5/19 at 3:37 pm to
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So you are relying on the media for accuracy? Not a good policy imo.


Is it not what literally everyone calls it though?
Posted by bigDgator
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2008
41214 posts
Posted on 4/5/19 at 3:38 pm to
Yes it is what everyone calls it now. And I can't stand it.
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
54846 posts
Posted on 4/5/19 at 3:42 pm to
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Yes it is what everyone calls it now. And I can't stand it.

Maybe because it’s the only thing I’ve ever seen in my lifetime and I’m not even 30 yet

But it makes complete sense to me.

You sign on to a home and home series. Both team gets a home game

Posted by bgator85
Sarasota
Member since Aug 2007
6021 posts
Posted on 4/5/19 at 3:43 pm to
Does it matter? Are games at FSU and Miami easier because we’re from the same state?
Posted by bigDgator
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2008
41214 posts
Posted on 4/5/19 at 3:45 pm to
Yeah people in the media think things sound cool and they are off and running. The new one I can't stand is chalk. Every time I hear it, nails on a chalkboard.

Do they even have chalkboards anymore?
Posted by fibonaccisquared
The mystical waters of the Hooch
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 4/5/19 at 3:48 pm to
I dunno how authoritative a source Merriam Webster is... but they defined the term and state that it was first used as such back in 1829... LINK

Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
54846 posts
Posted on 4/5/19 at 3:48 pm to
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he new one I can't stand is chalk. Every time I hear it, nails on a chalkboard.

Do they even have chalkboards anymore?

I actually posted this a way back during the start of the sweet 16 in a thread someone asked where chalk came from.

It's a gambling term. I really like this a lot.
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The term was born in the Runyon-esque world of gambling halls around the turn of the last century. Back when betting on the ponies was in vogue, the odds were on a blackboard for all to see. As more and more wagers came in for the favored horse, the bookie would make the odds less steep to make sure he did not lose money. This resulted in his repeatedly erasing old odds and writing new ones, in the process scaring up a cloud of chalk.
This post was edited on 4/5/19 at 3:50 pm
Posted by TU Rob
Birmingham
Member since Nov 2008
12732 posts
Posted on 4/5/19 at 3:52 pm to
More common, at least for schools like Troy, are the 2 for 1 or 3 for 1 deals. I’m sure that’s how our Mississippi State deal was structured. I forget if it was 1-2 or 1-1-1 but that’s how we get P5 teams to come to Troy. Agree to come to their place multiple times.
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
54846 posts
Posted on 4/5/19 at 3:54 pm to
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More common, at least for schools like Troy, are the 2 for 1 or 3 for 1 deals. I’m sure that’s how our Mississippi State deal was structured. I forget if it was 1-2 or 1-1-1 but that’s how we get P5 teams to come to Troy. Agree to come to their place multiple times.


we got something like that with ECU.
5-6 games, 3 at Columbia, one in Charlotte one at their shithole school in shithole Greenville.

That place is a fricking dump.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 4/5/19 at 4:04 pm to
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When does this happen in CFB BTW?

Does that matter? What if it did happen?
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It's just called a home series. Term as been used for ages with many different sports

I've never head that in 40+ years of following various sports.

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If its "so confusing" why is the term used by almost everyone in sports media?

First, I didn't really say it was "so confusing", just that it doesn't make intuitive sense. But the reason it's used in sports, is because people associated with sports usually aren't English majors. Sports talk is FILLED with malapropisms.

People say a team "...is dominate" on these boards all the time, and we still know what they're talking about. It still doesn't make it clear, or correct.

Also look at the term (to get) "untracked". It's ridiculous the logical contortions people go through to justify that one.
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Its really not that difficult to see the reasoning behind it.

That's just it, generally you shouldn't have to explain something so simple, it should be self-evident. You wouldn't have to explain anything if you used 'home and away'.

"LSU signed a home and away series with Texas."

"LSU signed a home and home series with Texas."

When you look at both of them, the first one just seems more clear right off the bat.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 4/5/19 at 4:08 pm to
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