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re: Kirk Herbstreit calls suspect injuries 'unethical as hell' in Tennessee football-Oklahoma

Posted on 9/22/24 at 11:31 am to
Posted by JacieNY
Member since Jul 2024
1967 posts
Posted on 9/22/24 at 11:31 am to
So OU players should not have been cramping up but that Vol on the ground in the 4th quarter when OU was driving was legit. Got it.
Posted by robvols
Member since Jan 2024
1005 posts
Posted on 9/22/24 at 11:32 am to
Dawgfanman just proved your point!
Posted by Cruise Missile
Member since Sep 2024
134 posts
Posted on 9/22/24 at 11:32 am to
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Gimmickry warrants gimmickry in response.
What part was "gimmicky"? Pass plays or running up the middle?

I didn't see UT trying any gimmick or trick plays.
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
25996 posts
Posted on 9/22/24 at 11:34 am to
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How would you like it if you go to an ER faking an injury and the medical personnel tends to you unaware what's going on?


The player isn’t at the ER. The trainers are fully aware of what’s going on.

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They are going to be extremely pissed they wasted all that time tending to a patient faking their injury while they have others with legitimate ailments


The trainers and coaches for OU and UT (who also does this) have the same goals. Win.

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DISRESPECTFUL PR!CK You also disrespected the hard work and effort the athletic trainers do out there during GameDay. What an a-hole!


I didn’t do any such thing. frick you and your family. See that’s disrespect. See the difference?

Posted by robvols
Member since Jan 2024
1005 posts
Posted on 9/22/24 at 11:34 am to
You say that to the "no huddle" offense at the next level. That there is not a gimmick.
Posted by StansberryRules
Member since Aug 2024
4658 posts
Posted on 9/22/24 at 11:34 am to
These fake injuries have been a thing for at least a decade. He's just now noticing?
Posted by CharlotteSooner
Member since Mar 2016
14252 posts
Posted on 9/22/24 at 11:35 am to
Calling plays as fast as you can so the other team can't get set, substitute, or get their own calls in, is a gimmick. It's bitchball.

You know it's a gimmick, and you've undoubtedly said so in the past when somebody was running it against your team, but now it's not a gimmick when it's your team doing it amirite?
Posted by robvols
Member since Jan 2024
1005 posts
Posted on 9/22/24 at 11:36 am to
All you did right in your response is what your fanbase does
DENY
DEFLECT
DEFER
DECEIVE
DELUDE

You proved Cruise Missle's point of the classlessness in your fanbase.
Posted by DawginSC
Member since Aug 2022
7824 posts
Posted on 9/22/24 at 11:36 am to
While I don't particularly like it, I also don't care overly much about using injuries to limit hurry up offenses (as long as the clock stops).

When teams are hurrying up to catch the defense off guard rather than hurrying up to save time, there's a part of me that kind of views that as borderline behavior in itself. They're not beating the defense with a playcall or performance, they're simply not letting them get ready to play defense.

It's legal but I don't necessarily see it is being more ethical that having a player leave the field with a questionable injury to give the defense a chance to actually... set up their defense.

There is a reason we've had rule changes that require the offense to give the defense a chance to sub whenever they do or disallowed players starting to run on the field and then turning around to run off without playing a snap... because those running the sport realize that much of what the hurry up has been used for isn't particularly "fair".
Posted by Mizzoufan26
Vacaville CA
Member since Sep 2012
18965 posts
Posted on 9/22/24 at 11:36 am to
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Nothing they can do since officials don’t want to guess whether a player is faking or not.


Absolutely can do something, players sit 1-2 drives after being taken off. If there is an injury concern they shouldn’t be right back on the field anyways
Posted by GoldenReb
Member since Sep 2013
823 posts
Posted on 9/22/24 at 11:37 am to
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Why do you think we threw mustard and golf balls


Not bc of the “injuries” surely bc TN was doing it too.
Posted by Crimson K
Tuscaloosa
Member since Dec 2018
7331 posts
Posted on 9/22/24 at 11:37 am to
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This is like making a fake 9-1-1 call


I get that you don’t like it, but don’t be a drama queen.
Posted by Cruise Missile
Member since Sep 2024
134 posts
Posted on 9/22/24 at 11:37 am to
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Same can be said for the up tempo offense, it’s a gimmick for teams that. Any line up man to man and beat their opponent.
AH HA! Only real teams line up slow. Got it.

Nick, is that you?
Posted by JEC119
Alabama
Member since Apr 2024
2316 posts
Posted on 9/22/24 at 11:37 am to
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Pretty sure Kirk should not be talking about ethics after he and Saban conspired against FSU. #WeRemember


Remember Auburn has never been in the playoffs …. #WeRemember
Posted by ConcreteThreshold
Denver, CO
Member since Jun 2017
1697 posts
Posted on 9/22/24 at 11:37 am to
This isn’t an ER. It’s a football game with staffed Athletic Trainers.

They are getting paid/hours whether or not an injury happens. Unless there’s a massive amount of injuries on their sideline that they are ACTIVELY dealing with, then this fantasy you’re sharing with us is absolutely meaningless.

I can’t tell if you’re really this stupid or playing a bit.
Posted by DawginSC
Member since Aug 2022
7824 posts
Posted on 9/22/24 at 11:38 am to
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Absolutely can do something, players sit 1-2 drives after being taken off. If there is an injury concern they shouldn’t be right back on the field anyways


i am a fan of any player (offense or defense) taken out for an injury time out not being able to return until after the next change of possession.
Posted by robvols
Member since Jan 2024
1005 posts
Posted on 9/22/24 at 11:38 am to
That what the no-huddle offense at the next level is.......not allow the defense to get set or change personnel, and, get the play of.
Posted by Cruise Missile
Member since Sep 2024
134 posts
Posted on 9/22/24 at 11:39 am to
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Calling plays as fast as you can so the other team can't get set, substitute, or get their own calls in, is a gimmick. It's bitchball.

You know it's a gimmick, and you've undoubtedly said so in the past when somebody was running it against your team, but now it's not a gimmick when it's your team doing it amirite?

"Wait a minute...you have to give us more time."

Both teams are playing on the same clock.

If you're too slow to answer, take the loss.
Posted by atlanta917
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2017
6184 posts
Posted on 9/22/24 at 11:39 am to
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Absolutely can do something, players sit 1-2 drives after being taken off. If there is an injury concern they shouldn’t be right back on the field anyways

I’ve already said I was fine with them forcing the injured player to sit out the rest of the drive.
Posted by robvols
Member since Jan 2024
1005 posts
Posted on 9/22/24 at 11:40 am to
I'm giving a more serious example because he thought faking an injury to an athletic trainer is funny. It's a complete and utter waste of time to them.

You're the one being so stupid because you can't put yourself in a more higher situation.

You can't fake injuries in front of medical personnel because you are going to get caught and they are going to be pissed. They are under a lot of stress already.
This post was edited on 9/22/24 at 11:42 am
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