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re: Kirby Smart is officially a 1/3 of the way through Richt's tenor. When is a NC required?
Posted on 5/27/20 at 8:28 am to ValDawgsta
Posted on 5/27/20 at 8:28 am to ValDawgsta
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Dan Mullen just won’t be the coach when that finally happens.
I can see Dan doing it, it just won't be routine. Donnan beat Spurrier. Richt beat saban and Meyer. A blip here and there doesnt mean some big change though, Mullen may luck into a win at some point (0-3 currently) but there will never be some big changing of the guard situation
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Posted on 5/27/20 at 8:52 am to TrueLefty
quote:But everyone here keeps saying it's not a powerhouse school. Which is it?
Powerhouse school
We'll see how this new OC works out. Kirby still has some learning to do. If he doesn't win one in the next couple of years, I don't think he wins one.
Posted on 5/27/20 at 9:01 am to WG_Dawg
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Orgeron was a head coach in the SEC for like 4 years then at USC before finally doing something successful in his 3rd year at LSU. It's almost like....head coaches grow throughout their tenure and get better? Crazy I know. But people expect kirby to win a natty within his first 5 years ever on the job. It's just laughably disingenuous.
Not sure why you're counting interim years since an interim coach has little to no effect on the team.
That said, Orgeron has been a head coach for 2 seasons more than Kirby and has been at two seperate programs, thus some of his years were wasted dealing with what he inherited at both places whereas Kirby has only had to do that once.
What next? We should give Kirby a longer leash because he's younger than the others?
Posted on 5/27/20 at 9:37 am to SidewalkTiger
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What next? We should give Kirby a longer leash because he's younger than the others?
Kirby is 44.Do you honostly think Saban and O are the same coaches as they were when they were 44?
Posted on 5/27/20 at 9:37 am to SidewalkTiger
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That said, Orgeron has been a head coach for 2 seasons more than Kirby and has been at two seperate programs, thus some of his years were wasted dealing with what he inherited at both places whereas Kirby has only had to do that once.
Yeah, but you gotta look at what they inherited.
Kirby would have killed to start with Ole Miss talent like O had.
Instead he had to start with UGA talent.
BTW: that "bad" talent Kirby took over got to the final in year two.
But don't let facts get in the way.
Posted on 5/27/20 at 9:41 am to magildachunks
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But don't let facts get in the way.
Like the fact that not one senior was drafted off the team he inherited and the only Junior drafted was KR in the 6th round?
Posted on 5/27/20 at 9:42 am to magildachunks
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a 1/3
It's simply "1/3" or "a third".
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tenor
Tenure
C'mon man.
Posted on 5/27/20 at 9:49 am to magildachunks
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BTW: that "bad" talent Kirby took over got to the final in year two.
And that had nothing to do with Kirby's coaching? You are running in circles.
To answer your question, a NC will be required when Kirby gets 3/4 of the way through Richt's soprano (or is is alto)?
Posted on 5/27/20 at 9:51 am to RD Dawg
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He's accomplished more in his first 4 years as a HC than than O and Saban combined in their 1st 4 years.
Are you seriously comparing Georgia to Michigan State and Ole Miss? LOL!
Posted on 5/27/20 at 9:52 am to magildachunks
So according to you Richt had a 15 yr tenor, is that about right?
Posted on 5/27/20 at 10:34 am to littlehandsjoe
Kirby Smart is a better program builder and recruiter than Mullen is, but Mullen is a better game day coach and game planner than Kirby Smart is, which is why he did more with less at Mississippi State.
Kirby is a good recruiter and program builder, but has made some boneheaded coaching decisions (fake punt in 2018 SECCG), and he sometimes gameplans poorly and doesn't have the team ready to play, losing yearly to a team Georgia shouldn't lose to or a blowout loss to an equal team, reminiscent of the Richt era (2016 Ole Miss, 2017 Auburn, 2018 LSU, 2019 South Car).
Mullen is a better game planner and game day coach, but not the recruiter and program builder that Kirby is, which is why he has not yet equalled the talent that Kirby has at UGA, and Kirby hasn't dropped the ball yet against Mullen at Florida like he sometimes does.
Kirby is a good recruiter and program builder, but has made some boneheaded coaching decisions (fake punt in 2018 SECCG), and he sometimes gameplans poorly and doesn't have the team ready to play, losing yearly to a team Georgia shouldn't lose to or a blowout loss to an equal team, reminiscent of the Richt era (2016 Ole Miss, 2017 Auburn, 2018 LSU, 2019 South Car).
Mullen is a better game planner and game day coach, but not the recruiter and program builder that Kirby is, which is why he has not yet equalled the talent that Kirby has at UGA, and Kirby hasn't dropped the ball yet against Mullen at Florida like he sometimes does.
This post was edited on 5/27/20 at 10:42 am
Posted on 5/27/20 at 10:36 am to TeddyWestside
I'll give you recruiter, but not program builder.
Mullen built a pretty solid program at State.
Not sure Kirby could have done that.
Mullen built a pretty solid program at State.
Not sure Kirby could have done that.
This post was edited on 5/27/20 at 10:38 am
Posted on 5/27/20 at 10:44 am to magildachunks
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Mullen built a pretty solid program at State.
Not sure Kirby could have done that.
I know one thing Mullen hasn't done...Beat Kirby
Posted on 5/27/20 at 10:48 am to Croot
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know one thing Mullen hasn't done...Beat Kirby
I know one thing Kirby hasn't done: beat O.
Posted on 5/27/20 at 10:49 am to TeddyWestside
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Kirby Smart is a better program builder and recruiter than Mullen is, but Mullen is a better game day coach and game planner than Kirby Smart
Did you watch the Florida game in '19? Any objective observer will tell you Mullen was out coached.WTF was he doing sitting on clock in the 4th qtr?
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which is why he did more with less at Mississippi State.
Like what? What was his biggest victory? His best team ever was boat raced by GT in the Orange Bowl
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Kirby is a good recruiter and program builder, but has made some boneheaded coaching decisions (fake punt in 2018 SECCG)
As has every coach who's been a HC in P5
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Georgia shouldn't lose to or a blowout loss to an equal team reminiscent of the Right era (2016 Ole Miss, 2017 Auburn, 2018 LSU, 2019 South Car).
Good God,he's lost 3 regular season games the last 3 years but you're bitching because he didn't go undefeated in '17,'18 and '19?
You should root for Bama
This post was edited on 5/27/20 at 10:50 am
Posted on 5/27/20 at 10:57 am to magildachunks
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Surely y'all won't wait 15 years before cutting the cord.
He won’t last long if he drops off like richt did. I wouldn’t bet on that happening though.
Posted on 5/27/20 at 11:01 am to magildachunks
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I know one thing Kirby hasn't done: beat O.
great
This post was edited on 5/27/20 at 11:03 am
Posted on 5/27/20 at 11:04 am to magildachunks
Kirby had his shot, and he blew it. Just like Gus.
Posted on 5/27/20 at 11:06 am to RD Dawg
The guy won 11 games every season except his first. That's unheard of, sure he's had a talent advantage most of the time, but recruiting is the most important thing next to winning. However, I think he may have difficulty getting high ranked recruits to "buy in" judging by the number of players sitting out the last two bowl games.
Posted on 5/27/20 at 11:07 am to magildachunks
AM I the first to point out he isn’t 1/3 of the way to 15 years?
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