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re: Kirby gets it It's what scares me too

Posted on 2/21/22 at 7:14 pm to
Posted by NorthPark
Houston
Member since Jul 2021
302 posts
Posted on 2/21/22 at 7:14 pm to
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You mean they play sports while growing up like every other kid?


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Kirby gets it It's what scares me too
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Athletes spend more time honing their skills than most of the influencers and reality tv types. Their sport generates billions of dollars for their dedication and at times major injurie


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Athletes spend more time honing their skills than most of the influencers and reality tv types.

You mean they play sports while growing up like every other kid?

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Their sport generates billions of dollars for their dedication and at times major injuries.

Most of them are not that dedicated, which is why they won't make it in the NF


You have contradicted yourself since most of the kids growing up to play sports will not play football at any level in college much less get millions.

The same contradiction griping about most of them will not play in the NFL. The very best of the best play in the NFL. The worse NFL team would blow out the College Natty team every year, Which is one of the reasons the NFL stopped playing the college all star team. It was a fun matchup until it started becoming obvious athletes could ruin a career over a pointless game that was starting to be non-competitive.

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Also where do you think the money goes?
The buck starts with the head coach of a college football and a handful of recruiters. Not to mention many schools buy reports from outside companies that evaluate talent giving the scouts more time to talk to their HSA coach, Principle, and or teachers and parents. Salaries, bills, and special events cost money. They spend all of that money to help bring in more income for the school.

It is pointless to cry about the boosters since they wrote the check knowing full well it was a donation to their school or a tax write-of. The reality is they didn't actually donate the money in most circumstances. Sometimes they did not have enough room to write it all off but they still wrote the check. It is another right we have in America, I can spend my money however I want other than earning as a criminal.

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There are costs to running a football program. It would be like paying the grunts in the Marine Corp because they are doing all the heavy lifting.


I presume you mean the Naval Academy football team. They spend more money than A and M on recruiting but fortunately, the Military budget covers most of it. And even with a debate of how much tax money the Pentagon should get is debated nobody of any value to America wants to dismantle the Military. they get TV revenue and conference money too.

You have streeetched the truth to fit with your personal opinion and anger merely because some kids are gonna outearn you.
This post was edited on 2/21/22 at 7:18 pm
Posted by CrunchimusMaximusThe
Knoxville
Member since Jan 2022
1712 posts
Posted on 2/21/22 at 7:16 pm to
You sissies are saying this crap every year. CFB isn't going anywhere.
Posted by Hobnailboot
Minneapolis
Member since Sep 2012
6094 posts
Posted on 2/21/22 at 7:18 pm to
We are quickly heading to a place where the football programs separate from the universities. Sad.
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
14003 posts
Posted on 2/21/22 at 7:22 pm to
The problem isn't the players being paid gobs of money.

The problem is the transfer rule. Get back to where you have to sit out a year and that will solve lots of problems.
Posted by NorthPark
Houston
Member since Jul 2021
302 posts
Posted on 2/21/22 at 7:33 pm to
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Those of us who've watched college football for 20, 30, 40 years know what it took to "generate billions", and why it did so


I have to take the opportunity you have presented to gaslight For OU and Georgia. They raised the goose that is laying the Golden eggs.

LINK

And even as we enter the NIL age that changed college football for the good, even for the fans.
Posted by BrotherDawg84
Member since Dec 2020
3103 posts
Posted on 2/21/22 at 7:49 pm to
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You’re right. It was way better when the players were dirt poor and everyone could profit off of the 18-22 year old player’s names, except for themselves. We should go back to them not being able to be able to afford simple things in life while the universities get rich and all the fat cats get a raise. It’s much more entertaining when the kids stay poor, right?

NIL has been a long time coming. You can’t call yourself a capitalist then bitch about an 18 year old making money off of his own name. Everything will sort itself out in time, it’s what happens in a free market economy. This is all new, and new things scare people.


I don't have a problem with college athletes making some spending money, especially since they don't have time to have jobs to earn extra. But you're gonna have to add band members, cheerleaders, etc. to the mix, because they're in the same situation. If they're paid in the hundreds of thousands or millions you can stick a fork in it. Nobody is going to class when he or she is making that kind of money. They'll just pay off professors or similar. There has to be a cap.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25568 posts
Posted on 2/21/22 at 8:07 pm to
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They aren’t signing a contract to play for the team like a pro does.

They actually do have to sign. A lot. And yes, they are contracts and disclosure forms.
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. It’s the schools and boosters that have turned this into a Pay for play thing

No shite. Who didnt see this coming? You?
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Also, if you don’t think the best talent has been going to schools for money for the last 60yrs or more, your crazy.

I hate to break it to you. But the players who dont make it in the nfl (24-30 year olds) would break most 18-20 year olds in half. They are the best talent (because they are older, stronger, more mature versions of the best talent coming out of high school).

The argument isnt about pay for play. I was responding to caplitalism arguments in favor of the players when true merit based capitalism would sideline 18-20 year olds in college football.
Posted by CanadaTiger
Member since Feb 2022
47 posts
Posted on 2/21/22 at 8:11 pm to
Most of these people are too dumb to realize that NIL stuff doesn’t make you a professional, because you aren’t being paid to play. You are being paid based on how much your image is worth to a company. Plus football isn’t the only sport that benefits. Gymnastics became a lot more competitive and interesting now that Olympic gymnasts can compete in college without losing amateur status.
Posted by NorthPark
Houston
Member since Jul 2021
302 posts
Posted on 2/21/22 at 8:19 pm to
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They'll just pay off professors or similar. There has to be a cap.


A cap is not going to happen. If they have the right to earn money there is no way to legally reach to a Cap. Having said that, the Supreme Court could rule a number of ways which may or may not limit the circumstances when an athlete is entitled to earn.


I will not live long enough to see this but eventually, it is probable there will be a league for HS seniors to go compete to ready themselves for football. The camp will be more like the baseball minor league systems around B or A talent. Instead of practice squads, they will have an instructional league with alliances for about five teams to field a singular team.

The Transfer portal will lead to teams and some boosters becoming tired of spending all that money for some kid to transfer out. It is the best way to partially fix the portal which is the bigger issue.

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The problem isn't the players being paid gobs of money.

The problem is the transfer rule. Get back to where you have to sit out a year and that will solve lots of problems.
Posted by AlaCowboy
North Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
6942 posts
Posted on 2/21/22 at 10:19 pm to
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When we let kids freely transfer with zero repercussions


That's what coaches have been doing for the last thirty years while players were penalized if a coach dropped them from the team and they went elsewhere. Why do you think the players have pushed back so hard?
Posted by TrueLefty
St. Louis County
Member since Oct 2017
14887 posts
Posted on 2/21/22 at 10:22 pm to
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I'm worried about the love and the passion that our fanbases have for the game going away, and that scares me the most."

Yep, that is going to be the norm for LSU and their fans to be scared!
Posted by TailbackU
ATL
Member since Oct 2005
11081 posts
Posted on 2/21/22 at 10:52 pm to
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I can absolutely see CFB fans, not being turned fully off, starting to wane in interest and passion, as the college sports "professionalize."



I'm already headed down that path
Posted by JJJimmyJimJames
Southern States
Member since May 2020
18496 posts
Posted on 2/21/22 at 11:12 pm to
takes one to know one cheating lowlife
Posted by schmoo
marietta ga
Member since Jul 2017
1392 posts
Posted on 2/22/22 at 8:49 am to
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Bama has been hiring far more "coaches" than allowed and calling them analysts until the NCAA just gave up trying to regulate them, it has certainly been paying players in one way or another for decades
I'm guessing you have some kind of proof of this, or else you are just an a-hole making up garbage and presenting it as fact
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