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Kentucky 1950 football season
Posted on 7/31/16 at 11:07 am
Posted on 7/31/16 at 11:07 am
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Article about the 1950 season and national title, worth reading on a Sunday. Scooter Hobbs is a writer for the Lake Charles American Press
Glad we have the BCS
Article about the 1950 season and national title, worth reading on a Sunday. Scooter Hobbs is a writer for the Lake Charles American Press
Glad we have the BCS
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Posted on 7/31/16 at 11:38 am to LCTFAN
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The rest of the SEC should be encouraged by this. It could be the first hint that Kentucky finally cares enough about football to start lying about it.
We gone full SEC, baw.
Posted on 7/31/16 at 1:50 pm to LCTFAN
The claim is fine, it's making the fake trophy that's another thing.
That article is wrong too because UK's had it in their media guide for years.
That article is wrong too because UK's had it in their media guide for years.
This post was edited on 7/31/16 at 1:51 pm
Posted on 7/31/16 at 2:09 pm to AlabamaAlum07
Yeah, it's not some new revelation like the author makes it out to be. What's had Kentucky fans up in arms for so long is that the school hasn't done anything to really officially acknowledge it in a big public way. I'm fine with the trophy, but what they need to do is put something up in Commonwealth acknowledging it.
We already had another thread going back and forth about all this and the oddball way they did things back then. If that season had played out today Kentucky would have been crowned national champions. Tennessee wouldn't have even been in contention for it. Oklahoma just wants everyone to forget they lost their last game of the year.
We already had another thread going back and forth about all this and the oddball way they did things back then. If that season had played out today Kentucky would have been crowned national champions. Tennessee wouldn't have even been in contention for it. Oklahoma just wants everyone to forget they lost their last game of the year.
Posted on 7/31/16 at 2:40 pm to UKWildcats
Yeah no. And had everything played out like it did, Tennessee would have been national champions. You lose early, you have time to recover, which Tennessee did. UK lost their final regular season game. Not enough time to recover.
Us OU fans know we aren't the only ones who have been crowned national champions before losing the bowl:
1950 Oklahoma
1951 Tennessee
1953 Maryland
1960 Minnesota
1964 Alabama
1965 Michigan State (UPI)
1970 Texas (UPI)
1973 Alabama (UPI)
Us OU fans know we aren't the only ones who have been crowned national champions before losing the bowl:
1950 Oklahoma
1951 Tennessee
1953 Maryland
1960 Minnesota
1964 Alabama
1965 Michigan State (UPI)
1970 Texas (UPI)
1973 Alabama (UPI)
Posted on 7/31/16 at 2:53 pm to LCTFAN
Kentucky had a great team... passing attack, Babe Parelli (most people don't know that Bryant was a master of knowledge about the passing game). Bryant guaranteed a win to the Sugar Bowl committee if Kentucky received an invitation.
Polls were indeed completed immediately after the season and bowls were regarded as exhibitions. Heck, Notre Dame refuse to play bowl games until about 1970... their fake 1966 NC was without a bowl game along with most of their other NCs.
But..what is it about LSU fans that some of them feel compelled to denigrate the accomplishments of other teams? Why do they dump on Kentucky in this stupid, repetitious, poorly written, badly thought-out article?
Do LSU fans in general think that any other school that has success in football.. even one season... somehow lowers the regard, such that it exists, for LSU? It is the strangest phenomena in college football. Fans of other teams do not feel obligated to do this... except about Auburn and Tennessee both of which fully deserve it.
Polls were indeed completed immediately after the season and bowls were regarded as exhibitions. Heck, Notre Dame refuse to play bowl games until about 1970... their fake 1966 NC was without a bowl game along with most of their other NCs.
But..what is it about LSU fans that some of them feel compelled to denigrate the accomplishments of other teams? Why do they dump on Kentucky in this stupid, repetitious, poorly written, badly thought-out article?
Do LSU fans in general think that any other school that has success in football.. even one season... somehow lowers the regard, such that it exists, for LSU? It is the strangest phenomena in college football. Fans of other teams do not feel obligated to do this... except about Auburn and Tennessee both of which fully deserve it.
This post was edited on 7/31/16 at 3:00 pm
Posted on 7/31/16 at 4:43 pm to Oklahomey
quote:LSU managed to lose to us AND their last game v Arkansas before SECCG in 2007 and still went.
You lose early, you have time to recover, which Tennessee did. UK lost their final regular season game. Not enough time to recover.
For the billionth time if you think a committee today sends a team who lost to a 4-5 school over a team who lost to a 10-1 you are smoking some powerful shite.
It's also convenient how you use when we lost as the prime criteria for attempting to disqualify us from consideration, yet when we point out you lost YOUR LAST frickING GAME it conveniently doesn't matter.
You can make whatever case you want to for Tennessee, but we both know in today's world Oklahoma would have zero claim.
This post was edited on 7/31/16 at 4:48 pm
Posted on 7/31/16 at 5:26 pm to UKWildcats
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For the billionth time if you think a committee today
I know it's probably hard for you to comprehend but today isnt 1950. Things were different and everyone then understood how things worked.
Posted on 7/31/16 at 5:30 pm to kilo
Thanks for clearing that up. Clearly I was completely oblivious to the difference between the standards then and today. I guess that's why I used the caveat "in today's game" in my post, you fricking smart arse.
Posted on 7/31/16 at 5:31 pm to UKWildcats
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If that season had played out today Kentucky would have been crowned national champions. Tennessee wouldn't have even been in contention for it
You got this bass ackwards, and you know it.
Posted on 7/31/16 at 5:34 pm to LCTFAN
Let's put it this way...
I don't agree with their claim or acknowledge it and most organizations won't either.
However there are much worse claims out there so they might as well.
In general if you want national championship claim to be legit:
1. Awarded by the AP or Coaches Poll
2. If not #1, then awarded by some other major organization at the time (not retroactively), like the FWAA, etc.
3. If not #1 or #2, at the very least you should be undefeated for the year.
I don't agree with their claim or acknowledge it and most organizations won't either.
However there are much worse claims out there so they might as well.
In general if you want national championship claim to be legit:
1. Awarded by the AP or Coaches Poll
2. If not #1, then awarded by some other major organization at the time (not retroactively), like the FWAA, etc.
3. If not #1 or #2, at the very least you should be undefeated for the year.
Posted on 7/31/16 at 5:37 pm to Vols&Shaft83
quote:You weren't even conference champions. How do you propose you were national champions? You lost to a 4-5 team. Kentucky and Oklahoma both lost to 10-1 teams. Please explain how Tennessee has any stake in this whatsoever?
You got this bass ackwards, and you know it.
Posted on 7/31/16 at 5:38 pm to UKWildcats
We had the same overall record, and we beat you, and finished higher in every poll. Game, Set, and Match, bitch 
This post was edited on 7/31/16 at 5:40 pm
Posted on 7/31/16 at 5:41 pm to Vols&Shaft83
OK...we still won the SEC, had a better loss, and beat the then #1 team in Oklahoma while y'all beat Texas in the Cotton Bowl. You can't just disregard a TERRIBLE loss to Mississippi State that year.
Posted on 7/31/16 at 5:46 pm to UKWildcats
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OK...we still won the SEC, had a better loss, and beat the then #1 team in Oklahoma while y'all beat Texas in the Cotton Bowl. You can't just disregard a TERRIBLE loss to Mississippi State that year.
Our loss was early in the season, yours was the last game of the season. Now you can jump up and down and cry like Nancy Kerrigan that "when you lose doesn't matter", but you're wrong, you know you're wrong, NOW JUST STAND THERE IN YOUR WRONGNESS AND BE WRONG.
Posted on 7/31/16 at 5:52 pm to Vols&Shaft83
quote:For the purpose of the polls, absolutely it does. I acknowledged that was the deciding factor then and that's why both Oklahoma and Tennessee finished ranked higher. However, using common fricking sense, how can a team who lost their last game of the year be champs? And how can a team who didn't win their conference and lose to a 4-5 team be champs?
Our loss was early in the season, yours was the last game of the season. Now you can jump up and down and cry like Nancy Kerrigan that "when you lose doesn't matter", but you're wrong, you know you're wrong, NOW JUST STAND THERE IN YOUR WRONGNESS AND BE WRONG.
And what are you gonna do when Barker drops a 50 bomb on that arse in Neyland come November?
Posted on 7/31/16 at 5:57 pm to UKWildcats
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And what are you gonna do when Barker drops a 50 bomb on that arse in Neyland come November?
Restart the Xbox for my nephew and set the difficulty level to Junior Varsity.
You say you're gonna beat us every year, and you haven't gotten within 30 since you started posting on this board.
This post was edited on 7/31/16 at 5:58 pm
Posted on 7/31/16 at 6:01 pm to Vols&Shaft83
quote:Absolutely. Hope springs eternal. I have to maintain a track record of consistency. When that glorious Saturday comes it will be all the sweeter.
You say you're gonna beat us every year, and you haven't gotten within 30 since you started posting on this board.
Posted on 7/31/16 at 8:58 pm to UKWildcats
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Thanks for clearing that up. Clearly I was completely oblivious to the difference between the standards then and today. I guess that's why I used the caveat "in today's game" in my post, you fricking smart arse.
Unsurprisingly the point went over your head. You just go on with your dumb arse self trying to use current conventions and thinking to justify your weak claim from 1950.
This post was edited on 7/31/16 at 9:04 pm
Posted on 7/31/16 at 9:23 pm to kilo
No, if you'd bothered to read any of this thread or the other much lengthier one you'd see plenty of acknowledgment of the different standards applied then vs today. Your incessant need to repeatedly respond in a thread that has absolutely dick to do with Missouri in an attempt to save face however does elude my understanding.
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