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re: Kentucky - it was a short lived battle for SEC regular season championship

Posted on 2/16/22 at 7:30 am to
Posted by Smokeyone
Maryville Tn
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Posted on 2/16/22 at 7:30 am to
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We haven't really cared for conference ships in a long time. Nice to get along the way for a good seed, that's it. I've never heard any UK fan state conference ship as a goal.


Are y’all ok with being a 3 seed in the conference?
Posted by hoojy
In the fridge with my hot sauce.
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Posted on 2/16/22 at 7:33 am to
Don't give a shite for a worthless tourney title. The games are meaningless after the semifinals. The title game needs to be moved up to Saturday, so it affects seeding. So I guess a day earlier start for the tourney.
Posted by Tigerman97
Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 2/16/22 at 7:34 am to
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Auburn has 6 games left.

5 of them are against the bottom 8 in the conference.

1 is against Ut on the road. By far the hardest game on the schedule this year for Auburn. No other arena can match the fan support or the basketball knowledge of the volunteers home crowd.

But Auburn already slipped up, lost focus, and let one of the road games bite us. I forgot which.

But I expect us to win them all except possibly UT.


This is all true, but it's the SEC and you aren't getting any favors on the road. A bad shooting night, foul trouble, etc...it isn't hard to lose a road game to the bottom half of the league.
Posted by Tigerman97
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Posted on 2/16/22 at 7:35 am to
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We haven't really cared for conference ships in a long time.


That's fair over the history of the SEC, but its the best bball conference now year in and year out...cleary the best this year. The regular season title isn't chicken feed anymore.
Posted by LouisvilleKat
Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 2/16/22 at 7:36 am to
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So Kentucky doesn’t care about championships anymore?


SEC championships? I'm sure there are some fans who care about regular season stuff but most years being SEC champ only means a guaranteed tournament bid and hasn't really helped our NCAA seed. Same with the SEC tournament although that has more to do with the final game being after the selection committee has already done most of its work.
Posted by Golfer1
Naples, FL
Member since Jan 2021
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Posted on 2/16/22 at 8:43 am to
Anyone that cares or acts like winning the conference or conference tournament is something special is new to this sport.

Basketball is all about the NCAA tournament.

If Auburn wins the SEC this year and is bounced in the first weekend of the real tournament it would be a terrible season
This post was edited on 2/16/22 at 8:44 am
Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 2/16/22 at 8:51 am to
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The games are meaningless after the semifinals. The title game needs to be moved up to Saturday, so it affects seeding. So I guess a day earlier start for the tourney.




Sadly this is true unless a team solely needs the auto bid
Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
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Posted on 2/16/22 at 8:52 am to
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No other arena can match the fan support or the basketball knowledge of the volunteers home crowd.


Decent bait
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 2/16/22 at 9:05 am to
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Anyone that cares or acts like winning the conference or conference tournament is something special is new to this sport.

Basketball is all about the NCAA tournament.

If Auburn wins the SEC this year and is bounced in the first weekend of the real tournament it would be a terrible season



A little bold and aspirational from a program without an SEC title and one S16 in the last quarter century.

Sure, if Auburn wins the conference and fails in the first weekend, it's a disappointing end - absolutely. But a conference title would help take some sting out of getting bounced in the S16 or E8 and would still be a very good year for all but very elite programs.

Not to mention the conference title is a body of work thing, and therefore has a lot of merit. I won't pretend I care as much about a conference title as a deep NCAA run, but as the conference gets stronger especially, it should carry weight. Now the SEC Tourney title is another matter and akin to winning a preseason tournament in my mind.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
50667 posts
Posted on 2/16/22 at 9:10 am to
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Anyone that cares or acts like winning the conference or conference tournament is something special is new to this sport.

Winning the conference still means something even if you didn’t win it all. They put banners up for that shite.
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54838 posts
Posted on 2/16/22 at 9:11 am to
Conference titles may be near meaningless to UK at this point, but they are a desired feather in the cap of every single other SEC program. Fans of team without a chance to win it are going to find it easy to down play. SEC tournaments are great to win as well, but mean much less.

Obviously an elite 8 or better is way more significant than either, but it doesn’t make the others meaningless by any stretch.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 2/16/22 at 9:16 am to
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Conference titles may be near meaningless to UK at this point, but they are a desired feather in the cap of every single other SEC program. Fans of team without a chance to win it are going to find it easy to down play. SEC tournaments are great to win as well, but mean much less.



Absolutely, and unless you're UK, it doesn't serve your interests to diminish the conference title (it doesn't for UK either, but I legitimately understand why they don't really care that much).

Things happen in the tournament, and aren't necessarily reflective of how strong your team is (for better or worse). Giving players who had an awesome season in a strong conference something to hang their hat on is worthwhile.

Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 2/16/22 at 9:18 am to
There were some Arkansas fans who insisted that we really didn't care about winning the conference last year. Not that we shouldn't, that we actually didn't.

It was kind of weird. We did, and since we got to that grey middle ground in the NCAAT where we didn't fall on our face but also didn't make a huge run, it was definitely satisfying to think back on winning the regular season title. Conference tournament title was cool basically because it made it a clean sweep, but otherwise it's pretty blah.
This post was edited on 2/16/22 at 9:19 am
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 2/16/22 at 9:23 am to
touche!
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
86111 posts
Posted on 2/16/22 at 9:26 am to
Yeah and perhaps we'll get over it at some point, but for Auburn, which needs to continue to bolster our resume as a basketball school you can win at post-Pearl, the last thing I want to do is squander a great season by not winning the conference and then getting bounced after a game in the tournament.

Put bluntly, we need to add 2022 to the wikipedia page, hopefully in several categories but the conference title is a good place to start.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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106309 posts
Posted on 2/16/22 at 10:15 am to
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Absolutely, and unless you're UK, it doesn't serve your interests to diminish the conference title (it doesn't for UK either, but I legitimately understand why they don't really care that much).


IMO it’s more about the correlation that if you’re in the hunt for winning the conference in most years you’re vying for a Top 1-2 seed in the NCAA Tournament.

But it’s not been uncommon, particularly under Cal, for it to take some time for his team’s to gel and that can mean some early conference losses. So we also know winning the SEC doesn’t mean we can’t have a successful post-season run.
This post was edited on 2/16/22 at 10:16 am
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