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re: KenPom SEC Basketball Rankings - as of 11-30-15

Posted on 12/1/15 at 10:48 am to
Posted by lowspark12
nashville, tn
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Posted on 12/1/15 at 10:48 am to
Few things in this world are less meaningful than November college basketball power rankings
Posted by Gary Busey
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 12/1/15 at 10:48 am to
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24. Oregon



Play them here soon in Birmingham. Would be awesome to get the upset.
Posted by AA7
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2009
26797 posts
Posted on 12/1/15 at 10:48 am to
Yeah we haven't even really gotten into the schedule. Only
Played 4 games so far. And don't really play anyone until Mercer.
Posted by Farmer1906
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 12/1/15 at 10:49 am to
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Dayton is the 4th best team we have played actually (per KenPom)


AH, I was looking at RPI which isn't all that reliable this early on. I assume KP probably isn't either.

Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 12/1/15 at 10:50 am to
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Few things in this world are less meaningful than November college basketball power rankings


Eh, they aren't the end all be all, obviously, but they do matter because the first two months of the season is when the OOC games set the tone for everything that is decided in March.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 12/1/15 at 10:51 am to
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AH, I was looking at RPI which isn't all that reliable this early on. I assume KP probably isn't either.


Yea, RPI is totally worthless. KenPom measures actually production and not wins/losses, so it is a little more reliable even early on, but it isn't nearly as good when the sample size is only 5 games or so.

Still a decent first look.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
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Posted on 12/1/15 at 10:51 am to
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Play them here soon in Birmingham. Would be awesome to get the upset.


Yea, splitting with Oregon and @ Clemson and taking care of the other games to go 9-3 in the OOC would be fantastic. However, we could easily play badly and lose one or two of the "should win" games as well.
This post was edited on 12/1/15 at 10:52 am
Posted by gatorsownfsu81
Birmingham, Alabama
Member since Aug 2012
801 posts
Posted on 12/1/15 at 11:16 am to
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KenPom SEC Strength of Schedules To This Point

#30 - Alabama
#111 - Missouri
#154 - Vanderbilt
#162 - Georgia
#172 - Kentucky
#189 - Florida
but UF's is about to get a whole lot tougher over the next month:

Dec 1st: Richmond spiders
Dec 8th: @ Miami (Fla)
Dec 12th: @ Michigan state
Dec 19th: Oklahoma state (Sunrise, Fla)
Dec 29th: Florida state
Posted by lsusportsman2
Member since Oct 2007
27232 posts
Posted on 12/1/15 at 11:18 am to
LSU is WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY too high. They can't beat any team with a pulse.
Posted by scrooster
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Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 12/1/15 at 11:34 am to
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SummerOfGeorge


Upvoted ... thanks for doing this every week. Seriously.

Bama should be higher ... they've actually beaten teams with a pulse.

Posted by MIZ_COU
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Posted on 12/1/15 at 11:35 am to
Missouri is just too high
Posted by Ancient Astronaut
Member since May 2015
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Posted on 12/1/15 at 11:36 am to
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#36 - South Carolina



Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 12/1/15 at 11:48 am to
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Dec 1st: Richmond spiders
Dec 8th: @ Miami (Fla)
Dec 12th: @ Michigan state
Dec 19th: Oklahoma state (Sunrise, Fla)
Dec 29th: Florida state


Wow, that is a stretch.
Posted by AUbagman
LA
Member since Jun 2014
10577 posts
Posted on 12/1/15 at 11:56 am to
I mean, I'll admit, I don't know the makeup of the ranking formula, but when UAB sits @ 117 with a 3-3 record while AU sits @ 143 with a 3-1 record and win over UAB, I have to question its legitimacy right now.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 12/1/15 at 12:07 pm to
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I mean, I'll admit, I don't know the makeup of the ranking formula, but when UAB sits @ 117 with a 3-3 record while AU sits @ 143 with a 3-1 record and win over UAB, I have to question its legitimacy right now.


Yea, it's all based on efficiencies on offense and defense with opponent's stripped out. That requires good numbers on opponents to know how to adjust out their influence on efficiencies, which is more difficult with a smaller sample size.

Bottom line, it's an interesting first look, but it will change a lot over the next month.
Posted by AUbagman
LA
Member since Jun 2014
10577 posts
Posted on 12/1/15 at 12:12 pm to
Yeah, I remember the initial football computer rankings were always head scratchers. I expect AU to climb up into the 70-80 range, and maybe higher if Danjel Purifoy is cleared Dec. 15th. The lack of size in the post will limit much past that IMO, but regardless, at least the team looks well coached and is fun to watch this year. I think AU has the potential to be a bubble team this year, but hell, even if it's just an NIT bid, it's a vast improvement for AU's program.
This post was edited on 12/1/15 at 12:13 pm
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 12/1/15 at 12:14 pm to
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Yeah, I remember the initial football computer rankings were always head scratchers. I expect AU to climb up into the 70-80 range, and maybe higher if Danjel Purifoy is cleared Dec. 15th. The lack of size in the post will limit much past that IMO, but regardless, at least the team looks well coached and is fun to watch this year.


Yea, the initial football ranking metrics that F+ does include preseason fillers up to about Week 5 I think. I don't know if KenPom does something similar or if he just works off of current data (a little easier in basketball since there are more games per team and more games between teams).

Auburn has a nice mix of decent Mid-Majors (Coastal, MTSU, Mercer) and then two good tests with Xavier and New Mexico before SEC play. If they play well in those games I'm sure they will shoot up.
Posted by Cockopotamus
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 12/1/15 at 1:14 pm to
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Ancient Astronaut



Laugh while you can
Posted by WannabeFratBoy
Member since Sep 2015
108 posts
Posted on 12/1/15 at 1:22 pm to
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#143 - Auburn

This has to be a troll
Yes they haven't played anyone besides Colorado but they should've won that game and they're averaging 92pts a game
This post was edited on 12/1/15 at 1:24 pm
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 12/1/15 at 1:24 pm to
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should've won that


How is that?
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