re: Kalen DeBoer/Les Miles comparison the first two years following Saban

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Les Miles got to keep full stocked teams

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I've acknowledged and agree that Saban set us up for what Les was able to accomplish.

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while Kalen got routed by transfer portal and NIL money buying up talent from Texas and the B1G.

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This is also true, but as I said in another post, Bama also brought in talent that kept them in the top 5 of composite talent.


My issue with Kalen and the reason I gave him a C is because his teams seem to shite the bed a few times a year where they are heavily favored. Or, in the case of UGA and Indiana they get totally dominated and seemed to quit.

Bama fans seem to be giving him a free pass on that and I would like them to speak to that directly.

D+. Given the keys to a Ferrari and turned it into a Ford Fiesta

C+

I think he’ll find his footing. His teams need to not be so soft.

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There's no way to give Deboer anything above a C considering he's lost 8 games in 2 years. That hasn't been done in over 20 years.

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I had to look this up and was surprised to see which Bama coaches have lost 3 or more games in their first two years since the end of WW2......

Kalen DeBoer
Mike Shula
Dennis Franchione
Mike Dubose
Bill Curry
Ray Perkins
Jennings Whitworth
Red Drew

Can anyone tell me what all of these coaches have in common?

The Indiana loss was bad, but when your QB goes down and then you see what they did to Oregon, it doesn't seem as bad. Still beat Kirby in his own house... Avenged the Oklahoma loss by winning the playoff game and despite what idiot Notre Dame fans think, you have to make the playoff to finish in the top 8.. which we did!

Only other negative was FL state and that was probably a fluke.. but definitely can't happen again.

I'm not jumping up and down, but with that run game and OL he did pretty damn well overall with a top 8 finish

Also addressed the worst special teams play I've ever seen with portal adds, so that won't kill us like it did in a few games this year

I give him a B+ on the season

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All you idiots just throw out that loss number.. ignoring that we played an extra SEC championship game and multiple playoff games..

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The "idiots" that throw out that loss number are just trying to get geniuses like you to react emotionally like you just did!

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How'd y'all do?

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We fired a coach that lost 4 games and then 3 games while bama is happy with a guy that lost 8 games in two years.

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Idc how you get there I will take a top 8 finish when you are dealing with that OL

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Who is at fault for that OL play?

Transfer portal wasn’t around when Saban left LSU.

If I remember correctly when Saban left Bama they lost some big time players to the portal

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The only thing is none of the former coaches had to deal with NIL, unlimited transfer portal when they took their jobs.

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Look, I totally get all of that and I'm so glad I made this thread because I get now why most fans have given Kalen a free pass.

But, what nobody seems to want to address is the fact that Kalen has lost too many games where he was favored by more than two TD's by teams that were ranked lower in the AP and composite rankings.

Also, UGA and Indiana beat them so badly that they weren't even competitive.

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Kirby and lane elevated their programs to New heights. Book is still out on deboers very young tenure obviously, but at the moment he is trending in the wrong direction.

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