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Posted on 1/24/26 at 5:44 pm to YStar
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Les Miles got to keep full stocked teams
I've acknowledged and agree that Saban set us up for what Les was able to accomplish.
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while Kalen got routed by transfer portal and NIL money buying up talent from Texas and the B1G.
This is also true, but as I said in another post, Bama also brought in talent that kept them in the top 5 of composite talent.
My issue with Kalen and the reason I gave him a C is because his teams seem to shite the bed a few times a year where they are heavily favored. Or, in the case of UGA and Indiana they get totally dominated and seemed to quit.
Bama fans seem to be giving him a free pass on that and I would like them to speak to that directly.
Posted on 1/24/26 at 5:46 pm to Tuscaloosa
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B+ seems fair. Dealt with a transfer portal that was the Wild West after Saban’s retirement - completely different than what was in place this year.
Keep in mind Miles had to deal with Katrina, which was unprecedented in terms of the distractions and upheaval it caused the football program. Les takes a lot of shite (rightfully so in most cases), but he did an amazing job dealing with that.
Posted on 1/24/26 at 6:09 pm to BlackCloud
D+. Given the keys to a Ferrari and turned it into a Ford Fiesta
Posted on 1/24/26 at 6:18 pm to BlackCloud
Dealing with the transfer portal makes coaching changes more brutal then before clearly.
Posted on 1/24/26 at 6:24 pm to BlackCloud
C+
I think he’ll find his footing. His teams need to not be so soft.
I think he’ll find his footing. His teams need to not be so soft.
Posted on 1/24/26 at 6:38 pm to BlackCloud
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Bama fans seem to be giving him a free pass on that and I would like them to speak to that directly.
I’m surprised so many Bama fans have given him a pass. I think nobody wants to admit the athletic department made a huge mistake with the hire and the long term contract.
Posted on 1/24/26 at 6:48 pm to WG_Dawg
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There's no way to give Deboer anything above a C considering he's lost 8 games in 2 years. That hasn't been done in over 20 years.
I had to look this up and was surprised to see which Bama coaches have lost 3 or more games in their first two years since the end of WW2......
Kalen DeBoer
Mike Shula
Dennis Franchione
Mike Dubose
Bill Curry
Ray Perkins
Jennings Whitworth
Red Drew
Can anyone tell me what all of these coaches have in common?
Posted on 1/24/26 at 7:37 pm to BlackCloud
The Indiana loss was bad, but when your QB goes down and then you see what they did to Oregon, it doesn't seem as bad. Still beat Kirby in his own house... Avenged the Oklahoma loss by winning the playoff game and despite what idiot Notre Dame fans think, you have to make the playoff to finish in the top 8.. which we did!
Only other negative was FL state and that was probably a fluke.. but definitely can't happen again.
I'm not jumping up and down, but with that run game and OL he did pretty damn well overall with a top 8 finish
Also addressed the worst special teams play I've ever seen with portal adds, so that won't kill us like it did in a few games this year
I give him a B+ on the season
Only other negative was FL state and that was probably a fluke.. but definitely can't happen again.
I'm not jumping up and down, but with that run game and OL he did pretty damn well overall with a top 8 finish
Also addressed the worst special teams play I've ever seen with portal adds, so that won't kill us like it did in a few games this year
I give him a B+ on the season
Posted on 1/24/26 at 7:39 pm to BlackCloud
All you idiots just throw out that loss number.. ignoring that we played an extra SEC championship game and multiple playoff games..
How'd y'all do?
Idc how you get there I will take a top 8 finish when you are dealing with that OL an special teams play
How'd y'all do?
Idc how you get there I will take a top 8 finish when you are dealing with that OL an special teams play
Posted on 1/24/26 at 7:44 pm to rolltideroyalty
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All you idiots just throw out that loss number.. ignoring that we played an extra SEC championship game and multiple playoff games..
The "idiots" that throw out that loss number are just trying to get geniuses like you to react emotionally like you just did!
quote:We fired a coach that lost 4 games and then 3 games while bama is happy with a guy that lost 8 games in two years.
How'd y'all do?
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Idc how you get there I will take a top 8 finish when you are dealing with that OL
Who is at fault for that OL play?
Posted on 1/24/26 at 8:00 pm to WG_Dawg
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There's no way to give Deboer anything above a C considering he's lost 8 games in 2 years. That hasn't been done in over 20 years
For comparison, the records of some other SEC head coaches over their first 2 seasons.
Kalen Deboer (Alabama): 20-8
Kirby Smart (Georgia): 21-7
Lane Kiffin (Ole Miss): 15-8
Posted on 1/24/26 at 8:01 pm to BlackCloud
Transfer portal wasn’t around when Saban left LSU.
If I remember correctly when Saban left Bama they lost some big time players to the portal
If I remember correctly when Saban left Bama they lost some big time players to the portal
This post was edited on 1/24/26 at 8:02 pm
Posted on 1/24/26 at 8:09 pm to BlackCloud
The only thing is none of the former coaches had to deal with NIL, unlimited transfer portal when they took their jobs. DeBoer not only had to replace the GOAT but he had to do with his roster being poached once Saban retired. Also
Nick Saban inherited Andre Smith LT, Antoine Caldwell C, Mike Johnson G n an OL left by Shula. Believe it or not Shula left Saban better trench players that Saban left DeBoer. DL was Lorenzo Washington and Josh Chapman I think it was. All of those guys played in the NFL for a while.
Nick Saban inherited Andre Smith LT, Antoine Caldwell C, Mike Johnson G n an OL left by Shula. Believe it or not Shula left Saban better trench players that Saban left DeBoer. DL was Lorenzo Washington and Josh Chapman I think it was. All of those guys played in the NFL for a while.
Posted on 1/24/26 at 8:24 pm to labamafan
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The only thing is none of the former coaches had to deal with NIL, unlimited transfer portal when they took their jobs.
Look, I totally get all of that and I'm so glad I made this thread because I get now why most fans have given Kalen a free pass.
But, what nobody seems to want to address is the fact that Kalen has lost too many games where he was favored by more than two TD's by teams that were ranked lower in the AP and composite rankings.
Also, UGA and Indiana beat them so badly that they weren't even competitive.
Posted on 1/24/26 at 8:42 pm to captdalton
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comparison, the records of some other SEC head coaches over their first 2 seasons.
Kalen Deboer (Alabama): 20-8
Kirby Smart (Georgia): 21-7
Lane Kiffin (Ole Miss): 15-8
One of those was in literally his first head coaching job.
One of them is a perennial job hopper taking over one of the secs worst programs, historically.
One of them took over a loaded cupboard left by the best coach ever at the best program of all time, coming off a national title appearance at the prior school.
Kirby and lane elevated their programs to New heights. Book is still out on deboers very young tenure obviously, but at the moment he is trending in the wrong direction.
Posted on 1/24/26 at 9:55 pm to WG_Dawg
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Kirby and lane elevated their programs to New heights. Book is still out on deboers very young tenure obviously, but at the moment he is trending in the wrong direction.
Posted on 1/24/26 at 10:40 pm to BlackCloud
The only problem and difference between the DeBoer teams and the Les teams following Saban, is the extreme drop off in toughness the recent Alabama teams have had after Saban this time.
Les did a great job of maintaining tough teams for about 7-8 years.
No one questioned LSUs toughness from 05-12’.
Bama looks soft now and that will get DeBoer fired during or after 26’.
Les did a great job of maintaining tough teams for about 7-8 years.
No one questioned LSUs toughness from 05-12’.
Bama looks soft now and that will get DeBoer fired during or after 26’.
This post was edited on 1/24/26 at 10:41 pm
Posted on 1/24/26 at 11:06 pm to Tuscaloosa
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B+ seems fair. Dealt with a transfer portal that was the Wild West after Saban’s retirement - completely different than what was in place this year.
Brutal schedule this year, but improved the record, finished 7-1 in the SEC against that brutal schedule, and continued to recruit at an elite level.
Agree 100%.
Posted on 1/24/26 at 11:34 pm to Morpheus
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The only problem and difference between the DeBoer teams and the Les teams following Saban, is the extreme drop off in toughness the recent Alabama teams have had after Saban this time.
Les did a great job of maintaining tough teams for about 7-8 years.
No one questioned LSUs toughness from 05-12’.
Bama looks soft now and that will get DeBoer fired during or after 26’.
Agree 100%
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