re: Kalen DeBoer is an Elite Recruiter

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16 recruits, with 7 being 3 stars wow I think in his time Saban maybe signed 3 in a class. How times are changing

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He signed 9 3 stars in the last class you dumb dumb

Nvm

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It's insane you took the time to research and post that. Is Bama recruiting your PhD thesis?

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I think you overestimate how difficult it is to look this stuff up. The internet is designed to make it easy to access data. Most people just don't take 5 minutes to do a google search before posting about something.

Take 5 minutes with the search engine of your choice and you can find the filings in a lawsuit, the text of a bill in congress, peer reviewed papers on basically any subject you're interested in or college football recruiting information.

It only becomes difficult if you want to find stuff before the mid 2000's. Things weren't digiitized to the same degree going back before then. Finding anything recruiting related before about 2002 is next to impossible.

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The issue you're missing with this analysis is that most teams end up filling up with low 4-star and 3-star recruits at the end of the recruiting cycle to make up their final class which brings down everyone's overall ranking from where it stands at this time of year..

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I'm not "missing" with anything.

Alabama's average per recruit is increasing with each commitment, not decreasing.

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Right now Bama is 7th in average player ranking with their 92.86. That's a more accurate analysis of where they stand. They're 3rd in the rankings because of volume, not because of the quality of the class.

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They would have finished 3rd in the rankings last year with that average. Again, their average is only going to increase moving forward based on class projections.

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Deboer is doing pretty good in recruiting by the standards of any school other than UGA, Bama and OSU in recent years. But by the standards of those schools, he's not up to snuff.

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Not up to snuff?

Seriously?

After 6 months?

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The reality right now is with where Bama is sitting they seem likely not just to finish below OSU and UGA, but also teams like Clemson, Oregon and LSU.

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Alabama will finish ahead of Clemson, Oregon and LSU.

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You're making the same kind of mistake that Tennessee or Florida fans have made in the past when their team is higher in the rankings with 5+ more commits than other teams with a similar or higher average player rating.

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You act like following recruiting is new to us.

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Bama has 17 commits and 1 5-star. In a Saban class, with 17 commits there would be at least 3 5-stars on board (like OSU has with 16 commits and 3 5-stars).

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Link?

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Look at the uncommitted guys in the top 10.

2 is favored to Clemson with OSU, Tennessee and UGA also at high interest.
3 is favored to Texas with Oregon, LSU and OSU also at high interest.
4 is favored to UGA with USC and Miami at high interest.
7 has no favorite with UGA, OU, Miami and Orgon at high interest.
10 is favored to A&M with LSU, OSU, OU, Oregon, Texas and USC at high interest.

Bama has none of the top 10 committed and none showing anything other than "cool" interest in Bama.

The next 10 has 3 guys showed as having anything above "cool" interest and 0 commits.

The 10 after that has 1 commit to Bama and 1 other player with more than "cool" interest.

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I don't know what service you're referring to here, but OT Ty Haywood is a heavy Alabama lean.

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Not being Saban isn't saying that Deboer sucks. It's just indicated that there IS a step down and the data is showing that it's happening. It's delusional to think he's at Saban's recruiting level.

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The only delusional one here is you, bud. DeBoer is recruiting better than Saban at this point in their respective Alabama tenures. That is an absolute fact.

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1)Can he win against SEC teams week in and week out.
Do you consider that he can a given?
2) Can he win over an extended period of time?
3) How will he fare coming out of Nick Saban's shadow?
4) Can he handle all of the huge egos that come with the talent Alabama has?
There's 4 for you, And I really didn't have to think hard. Imagine what I could come up with if I put my mind to it.

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Kirby Smart did just fine when he took the UGA HC job.
Why can't Deboer do the same?

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Why can't Deboer do the same?

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DeBoer has won 112 games as a collegiate head coach.

Kirby had 0 before taking the Georgia job.

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He has a great record but bragging about NAIA wins is kind of sad, it's basically more organized intramural sports.

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I guess you could focus on his 16 losses if it makes you feel better.

It would be a stupid hill to die on, but you do you.

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I never thought I'd see the day when BAMA fans are talking up their coach's NAIA record but here we are.

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I'm more focused on his run to the national title game and his record against Oregon and Texas over the last 2 seasons.

He's beaten more talented teams, multiple times, and now he's been given keys to the greatest program in CFB history.

Nick and Kirby aren't Jim Harbaugh.

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But LSU fans did brag about Kelly getting the team to the SEC conference championship game in his first year. Then say he also has the second highest record in the SEC.

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I don't know if he has the second best record, he does have the second best winning percentage of any SEC head coach at their current job though.