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re: Justin Fields Responee to Reporters question on Ga. loss
Posted on 10/16/19 at 10:53 am to cyclingout
Posted on 10/16/19 at 10:53 am to cyclingout
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Kelly Bryant proved that he couldn't put balls in tight windows when teams stacked the box and played press man on the outside. Trevor made a huge difference because teams had to respect the deep threat and it allowed ETN room to run. Which is why we put up 44 points
Notice that I never said that he didn't make a difference. I said that he wasn't the most important difference, and that that your defense WAS, and played well enough against us that it wouldn't have surprised me at all if Bryant would've put up enough points to beat Bama last January.
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Posted on 10/16/19 at 10:55 am to djsdawg
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He would have been just fine in our offense had he been our starter. Fromm just didn’t suck enough to lose his job.
Yes, Fromms really good, but not elite.
Posted on 10/16/19 at 10:57 am to bayou prince
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Wrong, look at their SOS... 17th highest in the country. better than any of the top 5 teams.
EXTREMELY surprising just looking at their schedule thus far. The only team that I see worth a shite is Cinci, which is a solid team, but clearly would be outmatched against the talent of OSU regardless of who was at QB.
Posted on 10/16/19 at 10:59 am to bayou prince
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Wrong, look at their SOS... 17th highest in the country. better than any of the top 5 teams.
Oh look, another example of stats not telling the entire story. LSU has won at Texas and beat a top ten Florida team. Ohio State's best opponent? Cincinnati? Michigan State? More teams would go undefeated with OSU's schedule thus far than LSU's schedule thus far. As much as I use logic and facts to make my decisions, facts without proper context are completely useless.
This is not a real scenario but:
A. Playing #1, 2, 3 and three FCS teams or
B. Playing six teams ranked from 40-60.
More teams would have a better record with scenario B, but the SOS would like state that scenario B is "stronger" than scenario A. Moral of the story: Use your brain and think things through - do not solely rely on what you read or hear.
Posted on 10/16/19 at 11:02 am to bayou prince
As much as I dislike UGA, Fields (more likely his friends/family/handlers) drug UGA through the mud to get that transfer.
UGA did nothing but give Fields the opportunity to make a name for himself and move on/thrive. It was handled poorly on his side's part. NCAA deserves blame as well for pure cowardice on these issues.
UGA did nothing but give Fields the opportunity to make a name for himself and move on/thrive. It was handled poorly on his side's part. NCAA deserves blame as well for pure cowardice on these issues.
Posted on 10/16/19 at 11:02 am to Funky Tide 8
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EXTREMELY surprising just looking at their schedule thus far. The only team that I see worth a shite is Cinci, which is a solid team, but clearly would be outmatched against the talent of OSU regardless of who was at QB.
I was surprised also... This was according to the sagarin ratins or Steele, I'm not sure. The teams they've beaten all have winning recors, except Miami of Ohio. Yeah FAU, Indiana, Michigan State, Nebraska and Cincinnati haven't been world beaters, but their not bad either.
Posted on 10/16/19 at 11:03 am to bayou prince
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Yes, Fromms really good, but not elite.
Had he been injured like Eason was, Fromm never would have gotten his job back imo.
Posted on 10/16/19 at 11:09 am to littleavery1948
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Oh look, another example of stats not telling the entire story.
look, I'm not into stats at all, but when someone states that all the teams they beat are "shitty" teams, then I beg to differ. That's all. All teams play "shitty" teams for the most part, even the tigers.
Posted on 10/16/19 at 11:15 am to GatorBait24
If your system can't accommodate a dude that can run like a deer with a strong and accurate arm your system sucks.
Posted on 10/16/19 at 11:16 am to djsdawg
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Had he been injured like Eason was, Fromm never would have gotten his job back imo.
Possibly...I'm not all that impressed with Eason either.
Posted on 10/16/19 at 11:18 am to RandySavage
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If your system can't accommodate a dude that can run like a deer with a strong and accurate arm your system sucks.
You got that right
Posted on 10/16/19 at 11:31 am to bayou prince
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look, I'm not into stats at all, but when someone states that all the teams they beat are "shitty" teams, then I beg to differ. That's all. All teams play "shitty" teams for the most part, even the tigers.
It might've been overkill to say that all of them were "shitty teams." But my overall point is that Fields hasn't really done anything that Fromm hasn't already done from a success standpoint...YET.
This post was edited on 10/16/19 at 11:32 am
Posted on 10/16/19 at 11:31 am to Funky Tide 8
You said he wasn't the difference. It's hard to name just one difference though when the score was that lopsided. But Lawrence was obviously a huge part of it
Posted on 10/16/19 at 11:34 am to Funky Tide 8
It's that eye test bro, Fields can do things Fromm will never be able to do. If he's struggling throwing the ball like Fromm against USCe he has other ways to beat you. If the OC is calling a crap game, Fields can bail you out with his improvisation. Fromm relies on everyone around him to make him look good, but when everyone around him is struggling he's dead. Fields would give you a chance.
Posted on 10/16/19 at 11:35 am to cyclingout
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You said he wasn't the difference. It's hard to name just one difference though when the score was that lopsided. But Lawrence was obviously a huge part of it
Right. I said that he wasn't THE difference, as in he wasn't the most important factor in the end result. Obviously there was more than 1 difference between the two teams that night.
IMO it was your defense's performance that was the key difference. Which is why I'd argue that Bryant could've QB'd Clemson to a win against Bama that night.
Posted on 10/16/19 at 11:39 am to RandySavage
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It's that eye test bro, Fields can do things Fromm will never be able to do.
That's fair.
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If he's struggling throwing the ball like Fromm against USCe he has other ways to beat you. If the OC is calling a crap game, Fields can bail you out with his improvisation. Fromm relies on everyone around him to make him look good, but when everyone around him is struggling he's dead. Fields would give you a chance.
but when has everyone around Fields struggled? We haven't seen him in that situation yet.
Posted on 10/16/19 at 11:39 am to RD Dawg
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Wow,really? Spurrier didn't have a "system"@ UF? Riley doesn't have a "system" at OU?
Spurrier and Riley have (had in Spurrier's case) systems but you have no idea what to expect from them in a given game. Spurrier may throw 50 times or run 50 times. Same with Riley. It's opponent specific gameplanning.
Kirby isn't throwing 50 times unless he absolutely has to.
Posted on 10/16/19 at 11:48 am to Funky Tide 8
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but when has everyone around Fields struggled? We haven't seen him in that situation yet.
You probably won't either....maybe Wisconsin, maybe PSU, heck maybe Michigan. Every team has a down game, but I doubt it. OSU is just at a different level and with a guy like Fields he can can carry them on his back if they have a bad game.
Posted on 10/16/19 at 11:53 am to Funky Tide 8
I think Bryant as QB would have made that a really close game and Bama would have believed that they could win and fought til the end
But Trevor being in there slinging it around and opening it up for everybody on offense is the reason why Bama quit and knew they couldn't beat that team
Bryant is just so limited. Trevor adds an element to that offense that Kelly could never bring
But Trevor being in there slinging it around and opening it up for everybody on offense is the reason why Bama quit and knew they couldn't beat that team
Bryant is just so limited. Trevor adds an element to that offense that Kelly could never bring
Posted on 10/16/19 at 11:55 am to WG_Dawg
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What's perplexing is why he came in the first place.
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